Deyan 31 #1 November 1, 2012 It comes off easy from type VIII, but from type VII is pain in the ass. Any tricks ?"My belief is that once the doctor whacks you on the butt, all guarantees are off" Jerry Baumchen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #2 November 1, 2012 Ice...get it hard & solid and break it off. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark 102 #3 November 1, 2012 Windex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #4 November 1, 2012 QuoteWindex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler. Mark Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia. That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #5 November 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteWindex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler. Mark Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia. That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon? I've heard several experienced riggers say they would/do use windex to clean a rig."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #6 November 2, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Windex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler. Mark Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia. That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon? I've heard several experienced riggers say they would/do use windex to clean a rig. Not MY rigger! From the msds~ Glycol ethers are primarily used as formulation solvents in cleaning fluids, paints, coatings, and inks. Ethylene glycol monohexyl ether has excellent oil solubility characteristics that make it useful in both consumer (household) and industrial cleaner applications. It's an oil solvent...guess what nylon is made from? When we use to wrap the 777 engine rings with Kevlar there was a list of things that couldn't be in the shop...windex was like number 3. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #7 November 2, 2012 Quote Not MY rigger! It's an oil solvent...guess what nylon is made from? Well, I'd be surprised to find out a No.2 pencil had any preference in cleaning chemicals! I never said I would use it, just know I've heard people saying they would/do. I wouldn't use it on my rigs though. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #8 November 2, 2012 Well, I'd be surprised to find out a No.2 pencil had any preference in cleaning chemicals! Quote ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #9 November 2, 2012 QuoteQuoteWindex, and the round end of your 6-inch ruler. Mark Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia. That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon? .......................................................................... We asked for a list of solvents, not the stuff you drink to steady your nerves! Hah! Hah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark 102 #10 November 2, 2012 Quote Isopropanol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether, water, fragrance and blue dye, ~ the older stuff has amonia. That sounds like solvents, isn't that rough on nylon? Quote From the msds~ Glycol ethers are primarily used as formulation solvents in cleaning fluids, paints, coatings, and inks. Ethylene glycol monohexyl ether has excellent oil solubility characteristics that make it useful in both consumer (household) and industrial cleaner applications. It's an oil solvent...guess what nylon is made from? Thanks for your reply. It's been fun reading up on polymer chemistry! What is the plastic bottle made from?Just because something is a solvent doesn't mean it dissolves everything. Water is a solvent, for example. It dissolves stuff like salt and sugar. Poynter suggests using alcohol or lighter fluid to clean oil or grease contamination from nylon, and they work precisely because they are oil solvents. Poynter says further, "Hydrocarbons are not generally injurious to nylon." Windex or other cleaners might attack the coatings on the nylon materials we use, which may affect permeability or UV resistance. That's usually not an issue with webbing or cordura, especially where hot glue needs to be removed. I'd be more concerned about mechanical methods of removing glue. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #11 November 2, 2012 Windex or other cleaners might attack the coatings on the nylon materials we use, which may affect permeability or UV resistance. That's usually not an issue with webbing or cordura, especially where hot glue needs to be removed. I'd be more concerned about mechanical methods of removing glue. Quote That's why you never use Windex on sunglasses...it removes the UV coating. ' using alcohol or lighter fluid to clean oil or grease contamination from nylon, and they work precisely because they are oil solvents ' ~They do... They are also fast evaporators that leave 'almost' no residue. Not so with Windex, spray it & alcohol on a white cloth and the difference is obvious. It's in a plastic 'Windex' bottle because it's cheaper to do so, that & the solvents are somewhat diluted. Ethylene glycol n-hexyl ether in a non-diluted state has to be kept in steel or copper IIRC. It eats through plastic & rubber pretty quick. I may be overly cautious but when I was building airplane & rocket parts there were strict protocols regarding what the plastics & nylons could be exposed to. You're right on the mechanical damage, we couldn't wear rings or watches when fabrication with nylon. ANY evidence of cut fibers was a 'defect in manufacturing' on our part. That's why for glue over-run a couple of freezer packs would be used an ya had to make sure you 'broke' the bead of glue away from the fibers. Bottom line~ using Windex on a rig probably won't make it un-jumpable. But there ARE chemicals & dye in it that should at the very least be considered when using it...when other options are available why not use them instead? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
