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QuoteQuoteI don't think that he lied. You have said that we sold SH WMD's. Where did they go?
Its very simple if you do a little searching of the backgrounds of the people in the current administration ..... who were in the REagan Administration.. Cheney , Rumsfeld...et.al.....( remember the pictures with Sadaam... I do) many many thousands of Iranians died at the hads of SH... as a surrogate for the US... do not think that lesson is lost on the people of the region... Our surrogate USED the WMD against people we did not like... they needed killin as the southernism goes.
How dare they take our embassy hostage.. kill em all.
They didn't take our Embassy hostage. They took innocent American Diplomats hostage. If you lived thru that ordeal you remember the hatred in this country against Iran. I had the opportunity to meet one of the hostages several months after they returned home. I can assure you the truth of how they were treated was surpressed to keep the American People from demanding all out war. Perhaps one time when our oil interests in the region saved many lives.
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QuoteIf you lived thru that ordeal you remember the hatred in this country against Iran.
As a matter of fact I was in the USAF until Dec of 1979....and I voted for Ronald Reagan in the very next election.
QuoteQuoteIf you lived thru that ordeal you remember the hatred in this country against Iran.
As a matter of fact I was in the USAF until Dec of 1979....and I voted for Ronald Reagan in the very next election.
Thank-you for serving.
Ok, that's twice that you have avoided my question and I find that rather convenient. Perhaps that is because you see it as the logic trap that it truly is. All you do is sit there and scream, "LIAR, LAIR, PANTS ON FIRE!"
The fact is you really have no idea if there is or isn't WMDs in Iraq. No one does and we may never know till 50 years from now. I am amazed that your hatred for GW is so great that you fail to see(or refuse to care) that SH has throughout history proven himself a murderer, torturer and a politically violent person. Certainly a tyrant like SH should never recieve the bennefit of the doubt like you so strongly feel he deserves.
This will be my last reply/post to you Kallend because for a while now it has been my opinion that your arguments never live up to your credentials and your narrow minded opinion will never be swayed.
That is how I really feel.
The fact is you really have no idea if there is or isn't WMDs in Iraq. No one does and we may never know till 50 years from now. I am amazed that your hatred for GW is so great that you fail to see(or refuse to care) that SH has throughout history proven himself a murderer, torturer and a politically violent person. Certainly a tyrant like SH should never recieve the bennefit of the doubt like you so strongly feel he deserves.
This will be my last reply/post to you Kallend because for a while now it has been my opinion that your arguments never live up to your credentials and your narrow minded opinion will never be swayed.
That is how I really feel.
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QuoteI am amazed that your hatred for GW is so great that you fail to see(or refuse to care) that SH has throughout history proven himself a murderer, torturer and a politically violent person.
That is how I really feel.
Yes, but why won't you tell us how you really feel?
SH may have been "politically violent" (....*coughBUSHcough*...), but that was NOT the reason that was sold to the American people for why we had to invade Iraq. The given reason was WMD. The level of intelligence regarding WMD that we allegedly held was said to be so precise that we were told that it was sufficient justification for preemptive war. And yet when no WMD could be found, the political motivation for the invasion and occupation then became the "liberation" of the Iraq people. The same people who we have killed in the thousands:
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/bodycount.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0406-02.htm
And yet when no WMD could be found, the political motivation for the invasion and occupation then became the "liberation" of the Iraq people.
Wasn't it Operation Iraqi Freedom?
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QuoteAnd yet when no WMD could be found, the political motivation for the invasion and occupation then became the "liberation" of the Iraq people.
Wasn't it Operation Iraqi Freedom?
Convenient, wasn't it. It's almost like they knew they'd have to change the emphasis for some reason. Nah... that couldn't possibly be it.
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Well maybe it was a bit better thought out than the bonehead use of CRUSADE in the first stages of the War on Terror
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0919/p12s2-woeu.html
President Bush's reference to a "crusade" against terrorism, which passed almost unnoticed by Americans, rang alarm bells in Europe. It raised fears that the terrorist attacks could spark a 'clash of civilizations' between Christians and Muslims, sowing fresh winds of hatred and mistrust.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/0919/p12s2-woeu.html
President Bush's reference to a "crusade" against terrorism, which passed almost unnoticed by Americans, rang alarm bells in Europe. It raised fears that the terrorist attacks could spark a 'clash of civilizations' between Christians and Muslims, sowing fresh winds of hatred and mistrust.
Wasn't it Operation Iraqi Freedom?
Convenient, wasn't it. It's almost like they knew they'd have to change the emphasis for some reason. Nah... that couldn't possibly be it.
It's funny that the people that think Bush is stupid, give him so much credit in their conspiracy theories.
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QuoteSH may have been "politically violent" (....*coughBUSHcough*...) . . .
I wonder how many American citizens have have had one-to-four limbs amputated for stealing a goat or calf on Bush's orders. Oh, I know . . . ZERO.
Want to take a guess at Hussein's numbers?
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SH may have been "politically violent" (....*coughBUSHcough*...), but that was NOT the
So you are saying that despite all the intellegence that Iraq had WMDs, that GWB actually was the only world leader who didn't KNEW they didn't and he invaded Iraq anyway?
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Quotereason that was sold to the American people for why we had to invade Iraq. The given reason was WMD. The level of intelligence regarding WMD that we allegedly held was said to be so precise that we were told that it was sufficient justification for preemptive war. And yet when no WMD could be found, the political motivation for the invasion and occupation then became the "liberation" of the Iraq people. The same people who we have killed in the thousands:
So you are saying that despite all the intellegence that Iraq had WMDs, that GWB actually was the only world leader who didn't KNEW they didn't and he invaded Iraq anyway?
edited to add quotes.
QuoteQuoteSH may have been "politically violent" (....*coughBUSHcough*...) . . .
I wonder how many American citizens have have had one-to-four limbs amputated for stealing a goat or calf on Bush's orders. Oh, I know . . . ZERO.
Want to take a guess at Hussein's numbers?
Do you want to take a guess at how many American soldiers have had to have limbs amputated as a result of injuries sustained in Iraq? How about children in Iraq or Afghanistan who have had an arm or a leg blown-off because they picked up an unexploded cluster bomb? Or how about Iraqi's who have been similarly mutilated in "precision" bombing?
Or how about Iraqi's who have been similarly mutilated in "precision" bombing?
Less than were mutilated in Saddam's prisons.
never pull low......unless you are
Its very simple if you do a little searching of the backgrounds of the people in the current administration ..... who were in the REagan Administration.. Cheney , Rumsfeld...et.al.....( remember the pictures with Sadaam... I do) many many thousands of Iranians died at the hads of SH... as a surrogate for the US... do not think that lesson is lost on the people of the region... Our surrogate USED the WMD against people we did not like... they needed killin as the southernism goes.
How dare they take our embassy hostage.. kill em all.
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