airtwardo 7 #26 April 29, 2010 Quote Quote Did you know that a cat will land on all four feet, even from 10K. Has anyone ever tested this? I had a friend with a SF HALO team back in the late 80s who said that a guy on his team took his wife's cat along on a jump. Flew on his back after exit and unzipped his jumpsuit to let the cat out. As soon as he did, the cat freaked and started clawing all over his face so he threw it and was never able to regain a hold of it. He says it did get stable belly down and remained that way all the way down. Don't know if it was a BS story but it was funny the way he told it. They fall back to earth, like a badminton birdie....more of a sit fly really. Or so I've been told! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.B 0 #27 April 29, 2010 Quote They fall back to earth, like a badminton birdie....more of a sit fly really. Or so I've been told! Some more read on the topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_righting_reflex#Terminal_velocity cheers, Bart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackwallace 3 #28 April 29, 2010 Try GO-JO works to take skunk smell off the dog.U only make 2 jumps: the first one for some weird reason and the last one that you lived through. The rest are just filler. scr 316 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydivesg 6 #29 April 29, 2010 Hmmm........... I've got a feeling there is soon to be a canopy for sale. All buyers use caution.......Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #30 April 29, 2010 QuoteHe says it did get stable belly down and remained that way all the way down. Don't know if it was a BS story but it was funny the way he told it. People may very well have ditched cats in freefall but that story is bs. The cat will fall so slow relative to the jumper he'd never see it after a couple seconds. Cats will That same story gets propagated regularly just like cow tipping.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #31 April 29, 2010 By the way... Wash it with mild soap and water, then try some apple cider vinegar. There are other options as well. But don't get too carried away with scrubbing. Google Remove Cat Urine smell and you'll find several options that work with nylon products. Remember, your canopy is tough. It can handle being spot washed. Be sure not to wring it out or scrub in a rough manner and it should be fine.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skydivesg 6 #32 April 29, 2010 Are we sure this thread wasn't started to help promote the latest advertiser located on the banner of this forum? *************************** Cat Urine Behavior problems? Products and advice that really work at CatFaeries.com www.CatFaeries.comBe the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #33 April 29, 2010 Quote Are we sure this thread wasn't started to help promote the latest advertiser located on the banner of this forum? *************************** Cat Urine Behavior problems? Products and advice that really work at CatFaeries.com www.CatFaeries.com Good catch! But! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ILUVCHUTERS 1 #34 April 29, 2010 At home when accidents happen (the cats, not me :P) I use something called Nature's Miracle - gets rid of the smell, enzymes, etc. I get it at Pet Smart. I'm in Canada, but the US has all the stuff we have and more I find. Might want to check with your rigger to see if anything in the Nature's Miracle would harm nylon, that's one fabric I've never had to use it on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #35 April 29, 2010 Ingredients: Water, bio-enzymatic odor-lock, oxygen boosters, surfactant, isopropyl alcohol, fragrance. I would use that on my canopy without concern.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #36 April 29, 2010 Feel free to call me but here is a link to my store and a product that will be safe on your canopy. http://www.superiorcleaningsolutions.com/servlet/the-234/Odorcide-210%2C-Odor-Removal%2C/Detail To get the urine out you need to use acid spotter but i'm hesitant to suggest you use it on a canopy. Rinse and dry they spray it with the odocide and you should be golden. 877-644-0077 MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #37 April 29, 2010 QuoteFor one reason or another one of our canopiies got peed on by one of our DZ cats. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the smell out of the canopy?? Buy something called "Nature's Miracle." It'll get rid of the smell 100%. Pretty sure it won't hurt the canopy either, but you can check. And to those who recommended killing the cat, grow the fuck up._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longtall 0 #38 April 30, 2010 Got my first PC and modified b-4 container for 125$ back in the day 'cause a cat had peed on it." 90 right, five miles then cut."---Pukin Buzzards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #39 May 2, 2010 I hate to say this, but I would contact the manufacturer to see if the canopy is safe. I once had a cat pee on some ammunition. It left a visible stain on the brass. When I shot the ammo, much of the brass split down the side. Since I reload, this was an unhappy thing. The reloading had weakened the brass, but that was the only time I ever saw it split like that. It's possible canopy material will fare better. But I would check with the manufacturer.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianM 1 #40 May 3, 2010 QuoteI hate to say this, but I would contact the manufacturer to see if the canopy is safe. I once had a cat pee on some ammunition. It left a visible stain on the brass. When I shot the ammo, much of the brass split down the side. Since I reload, this was an unhappy thing. The reloading had weakened the brass, but that was the only time I ever saw it split like that. It's possible canopy material will fare better. But I would check with the manufacturer. Several years ago a local jumper had a harness/container that got peed on by a cat. Rigger called the manufacturer, who said the rig was unairworthy - permanently. If it was a main only, I wouldd try to get the smell out and keep using it. Harness or reserve - I'd be a lot more cautious!"It's amazing what you can learn while you're not talking." - Skydivesg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #41 May 4, 2010 QuoteSeveral years ago a local jumper had a harness/container that got peed on by a cat. Rigger called the manufacturer, who said the rig was unairworthy - permanently. Details please or this is hearsay. I'm not arguing, I've simply never heard of a container being grounded due to cat pee. I've washed containers before with no apparent ill affects. (I added the word apparent since none have been noticed in the past 10 years the container has been used). A cat f***ing unloaded on my Intercepter 225 (old school CRW canopy). I washed it and put 50 base jumps on it the following month.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianM 1 #42 May 4, 2010 Quote Details please or this is hearsay. I was not the rigger on the phone with the manufacturer - it was another local rigger - so yes, by definition it is hearsay. You sure got me there!!! That doesn't mean it didn't happen, and doesn't mean it doesn't belong in this discussion. No rules of evidence here! The manufacturer (I forget which one, sorry) said that because they had no data on the effects of cat urine on nylon webbing, they couldn't verify its integrity and therefore considered it to be unairworthy and it should not be jumped. They didn't say it would ruin the harness - they didn't know, so they erred on the side of caution. I really can't blame them for that - I would do the same if I was a manufacturer. The rigger's position was that if the manufacturer says its unairworthy and shouldn't be jumped, he sure as heck wasn't going to overrule them - and I sure can't blame him for that! As a rigger, I would do exactly the same thing. Quote I'm not arguing, I've simply never heard of a container being grounded due to cat pee. Well, now you have! Quote I've washed containers before with no apparent ill affects. As have I. The effects of washing the container were not in question. The effects of the urine were. Quote A cat f***ing unloaded on my Intercepter 225 (old school CRW canopy). I washed it and put 50 base jumps on it the following month. Good for you. The point remains that we don't have data on the effects of cat urine on nylon, so we don't really know how it will affect the fabric, and you use it at your own risk. That is why I said I'd be cautious if it was a harness or reserve (I wouldn't even hesitate about using a main, and not too worried about a container if the harness was not involved)."It's amazing what you can learn while you're not talking." - Skydivesg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #43 May 4, 2010 Thanks Man. I asked a question and appreciate the answer. Pardon my delivery since it wasn't intended to get you. I don't believe cat pee will do anything worth mentioning to a harness. A manufacturer would have to put something like that in writing for me to ground a harness that was peed on by a domestic cat. Wash it appropriately and pack it back up. A forum user has requested we provide parachuting related stuff for a pull test. I have some spare harness webbing. Type 8 for certain and maybe some Type 7. I'd be willing to put in a cat box for a few days and let the cats go to town if he's willing to do a pull test on it. We may need to include rubber gloves and a charcoal respirator. My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrianM 1 #44 May 4, 2010 Quote Thanks Man. I asked a question and appreciate the answer. Pardon my delivery since it wasn't intended to get you No worries! I hope my reply wasn't too sarcastic... Quote I don't believe cat pee will do anything worth mentioning to a harness. A manufacturer would have to put something like that in writing for me to ground a harness that was peed on by a domestic cat. Wash it appropriately and pack it back up. A forum user has requested we provide parachuting related stuff for a pull test. Honestly, I would probably do the same thing - wash it and put it back into service. Certainly if it was mine I would; especially if I found it soon enough, and if I was able to get rid of the smell (might also try the blacklight test - cat urine will glow under a blacklight). Quote I have some spare harness webbing. Type 8 for certain and maybe some Type 7. I'd be willing to put in a cat box for a few days and let the cats go to town if he's willing to do a pull test on it. We may need to include rubber gloves and a charcoal respirator. I'd be interested in the results. I'd also be interested in the long term affects - so keep some of that webbing for a few years, then pull test it! Yes, I'm serious (but I will say better you than me! ). Not only due to the longer exposure time, but also due to the bacteria decaying the urine (which is where the ammonia smell comes from, BTW). Personally I simply keep all gear where the cats can't get at it. Mine are pretty well trained to leave parachutes alone, but why take chances? Especially since cats don't learn that something isn't allowed - they only learn that getting caught isn't allowed! "It's amazing what you can learn while you're not talking." - Skydivesg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites