cloudseeker2001 0 #1 May 30, 2004 HAHA! Not BASE, but Bass guitar rig! Any thoughts from fellow musicians is much welcome'dI have been looking at a Fender Bassman pro 400w combo with the extra 15 cabinet(for the extra kick!) or an Ampeg SVT 350 head and SVT 18 cabinet. I am also going to check out G+K. I dig the bassman combo cause it is fairly small, really cranks and comes with a rack mounted Korg tuner! All are about the same price-within 1000-1500$. You think 400w is enough, or should I save up for the 800w amp? note: edit due to spelling lesson from Michelle. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #2 May 30, 2004 Quotegutair rig! WTF??? A GUTAIR rig?? FFF "Upon seeing the shadow of a pigeon, one must resist the urge to look up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #3 May 30, 2004 QuoteQuotegutair rig! WTF??? A GUTAIR rig?? FFF I know you only have an attention span of say 60 seconds YES a guitar rig, bass guitar and amp! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #4 May 31, 2004 QuoteI know you only have an attention span of say 60 seconds YES a gutair rig, bass gutair and amp! His attention span is fine; that was a needless poke from you. It's Guitar. But good for you on the amp! Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #5 May 31, 2004 Lol...Thanks Michelle...All I can do is consider the source of the spelling and lack of jump numbers/info and figure he's a wuffo, lol... FFF "Upon seeing the shadow of a pigeon, one must resist the urge to look up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #6 May 31, 2004 QuoteQuoteI know you only have an attention span of say 60 seconds YES a gutair rig, bass gutair and amp! His attention span is fine; that was a needless poke from you. It's Guitar. But good for you on the amp! Ciels- Michele I think every skydiver here has made that pun of a 60 second attention span.............have you not said the same? expression? If I were trying to be an ass, do you not think I could do better? Thank you for the spelling lesson. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #7 May 31, 2004 Quotehave you not said the same Nope...for me, the skydive starts when I'm boarding the plane, and ends only when I've taken my gear off in the packing area. QuoteAnd did you not see the expression? If I were trying to be an ass, do you not think I could do better? I've seen many personal attacks that carry a tongue or a wink, the poster believing that the wee emoticon "explains" it. Heck, I've done it... I do believe you could be a much bigger ass if you tried. But I hope I'm never proved right. Have fun with your guitar and amp, and you're welcome for the spelling lesson. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #8 May 31, 2004 QuoteLol...Thanks Michelle...All I can do is consider the source of the spelling and lack of jump numbers/info and figure he's a wuffo, lol... FFF My jump info is not posted because it is "Nonaya Damnbusiness" but my name is there. 886 jumps is a little low for skygod status. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedXT 0 #9 May 31, 2004 I know Matt "Guitar" Murphy. he hasa model out by Colt and it rocks. He is amazing. he was the bassist in the Blue Brothers. Gentleman that was getting scoaled by Mrs. Franklin. JoeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #10 May 31, 2004 Dude, I never professed to be a skygod. In fact, I've stated time after time that I'm just a beginner/newbie. You seem to have some kind of issue, tho, so I'll let you play skygod as long as you want. Just remember that your rep is only preceded by your attitude. FFF "Upon seeing the shadow of a pigeon, one must resist the urge to look up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburkart 0 #11 May 31, 2004 QuoteI know Matt "Guitar" Murphy. he hasa model out by Colt and it rocks. He is amazing. he was the bassist in the Blue Brothers. Murphy is a old school blues guitarist; the bassist in the Blues Brothers is Donald "Duck" Dunn, of Booker T. and the MG's fame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburkart 0 #12 May 31, 2004 QuoteI have been looking at a Fender Bassman pro 400w combo with the extra 15 cabinet(for the extra kick!) or an Ampeg SVT 350 head and SVT 18 cabinet. I am also going to check out G+K. That's quite a range of rigs; you might be better off defining the sound you're looking for and what kind of band you're looking to play in. You also might want to post this to one of the bass forums, such as http://p219.ezboard.com/bthedudepit There are big differences between the rig types you mentioned, and it's a bitch to lay out for something that you won't be happy with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #13 May 31, 2004 QuoteQuoteI have been looking at a Fender Bassman pro 400w combo with the extra 15 cabinet(for the extra kick!) or an Ampeg SVT 350 head and SVT 18 cabinet. I am also going to check out G+K. That's quite a range of rigs; you might be better off defining the sound you're looking for and what kind of band you're looking to play in. You also might want to post this to one of the bass forums, such as http://p219.ezboard.com/bthedudepit There are big differences between the rig types you mentioned, and it's a bitch to lay out for something that you won't be happy with. I am looking for a classic sound and the Ampeg rig would provide it no doubt. The Bassman Pro gear also provides a nice classic sound and a few features the Ampeg does not have. I have not tried the G+K equipment very well yet. I have posted on a 3 other (music) forums, but not the link you gave me-thanks!.......I know at least a couple of players post here. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #14 May 31, 2004 QuoteNope...for me, the skydive starts when I'm boarding the plane, and ends only when I've taken my gear off in the packing area. See, for me the skydive starts when I wake up that morning, and it generally ends sometime Wednesday afternoon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoostedXT 0 #15 May 31, 2004 He is an old school blues guitarist, but when you watch that movie they say he is playing the bass guitar. I never really got into his roll in the moie with him, but I do believe his model out by Colt is Bass right? He is a cool guy really laid back and quiet talker. JoeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sburkart 0 #16 June 1, 2004 Matt "Guitar" Murphy plays guitar for the Blues Brothers Band. I don't have the movie so if you're saying the credits list Murphy as the bassist I won't argue. However, if you're saying you know Mr. Murphy and he is is the white guy playing bass I will tell you something is wrong, as Murphy is black. Oh, and he plays guitar. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Anyway, like I said, I don't have the movie so it is possible that Matt "Guitar" Murphy is playing bass in some scenes, but the recording session was done by Donald "Duck" Dunn. Maybe Duck couldn't make the shoot... Donald Duck Dunn is one of the all-time top session bassists (Memphis' Stax/Volt), just as Joe Osborne (L.A.) and James Jamerson (Detroits' Motown) were. (Honorable mention to Funk Brother Bob Babbitt too.) At one time if you had gotten those guys in a room together you couldn't have swung a dead cat without hitting a P bass (Fender), and you'd be pissing off a group responsible for most of the great basslines in pop music spanning decades. Pretty good reference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BoostedXT 0 #17 June 1, 2004 No....he is not the white guy in the band, he is the black gentleman who cooks in the dinner with Mrs. Franklin. He is in the Blue Brothers Band still and he often plays at Casinos on the east cost. I thought he was bass but I guess I was wrong. I took some photos of him one time when they released his guitar and listening to him strum there in the store was amazing. I have only seen him play live 1 time. JoeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 25 #18 June 1, 2004 And here I was thinking you were goin' fishin'....-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sburkart 0 #19 June 1, 2004 QuoteAnd here I was thinking you were goin' fishin'... I was starting to think the same; WTF is a Colt guitar? Turns out Murphy does indeed have a sig model -Cort-, and it gets good reviews at Harmony Central (FWIW.) Kinda PRS looking... http://www.cort.com/endorse/murphy/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #20 June 1, 2004 Cloud. What are you hoping to do with it? Are you going to be gigging? If so, what kind of venues - open air, small clubs, festivals, what? Those should determine what you do to get it. 400 W should be fine for just about everything. Personally, I think it's a bit much for a bass. You'll sound fine up close, but you'll drown everybody else out. Also, if your venues are playing with a sound technician running off a mixing board, you will hopefully either one will sound good at low volumes. Either way, when I hear the sound, I'll know it's cloudseeker rattling those dishes. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cloudseeker2001 0 #21 June 2, 2004 QuoteCloud. What are you hoping to do with it? Are you going to be gigging? If so, what kind of venues - open air, small clubs, festivals, what? Those should determine what you do to get it. 400 W should be fine for just about everything. Personally, I think it's a bit much for a bass. You'll sound fine up close, but you'll drown everybody else out. Also, if your venues are playing with a sound technician running off a mixing board, you will hopefully either one will sound good at low volumes. Either way, when I hear the sound, I'll know it's cloudseeker rattling those dishes. Dish rattlin sounds like lots of fun! I live in a townhouse with vaulted ceilings and wood floors and it gets too loud for me from time to time! Neigbors have never called the cops, but they do tell me I am getting better!400w would give me enough power to play in different venues and I could always turn down a little. Right now I have a 25w bassman that does really well with an acoustic guitar. So from a 25w to a 400w would be like me going from my 240 main to Dereks "G" string canopy! But, it looks as though I will be putting off buying an amp for a little while. I was checking out a practice room today and I ran into a old friend I have not seen in some time.......It turns out his band has one of the biggest rooms there and invited me to join them for only 60$ instead of 130$ a month! The really cool part is he has an Ampeg halfstack and a G+K halfstack that I can use! So it looks as though I will be saving up a couple of K to buy a really nice bass.........About time for some good luck! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sburkart 0 #22 June 2, 2004 Quote400 W should be fine for just about everything. Personally, I think it's a bit much for a bass. Couldn't disagree more. 450 watts is a start; there is much more emphasis on bass in modern music (even country) than there ever was in classic rock, add in the sub-harmonic content used by some R+B-or bands such as Tantric or Nickelback and 450 watts punks out pretty quick. There are things that Aphex enhancement can fix, but lack of power aint one of them. Seriously, I'd love it if 450 watts was a bit much. As it is 830 watts through a 210 and a 212 is my small rig, double the cabs and triple the power is my largest. As you noted, it all depends on the gig- if there's a FOH, etc. I'd add it depends on the material too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gjhdiver 0 #23 June 2, 2004 QuoteHAHA! Not BASE, but Bass guitar rig! Any thoughts from fellow musicians is much welcome'dI have been looking at a Fender Bassman pro 400w combo with the extra 15 cabinet(for the extra kick!) or an Ampeg SVT 350 head and SVT 18 cabinet. I used Ampeg SVTs for many years professionally. Great punchy sound, and unburstable. You can't go wrong with them. There's only one rig better IMHO, and that's what I use now, The Trace Elliot 500W with 4X10 and 1X18. I user Rickenbacker 4003s, so I can really develop that ringing punch they are famous for. Here's a picture of the rig and one of the basses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cloudseeker2001 0 #24 June 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteHAHA! Not BASE, but Bass guitar rig! Any thoughts from fellow musicians is much welcome'dI have been looking at a Fender Bassman pro 400w combo with the extra 15 cabinet(for the extra kick!) or an Ampeg SVT 350 head and SVT 18 cabinet. I used Ampeg SVTs for many years professionally. Great punchy sound, and unburstable. You can't go wrong with them. There's only one rig better IMHO, and that's what I use now, The Trace Elliot 500W with 4X10 and 1X18. I user Rickenbacker 4003s, so I can really develop that ringing punch they are famous for. Here's a picture of the rig and one of the basses. What a sweeet bass rig that is! Oh, yea, nice Fender too! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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BoostedXT 0 #15 May 31, 2004 He is an old school blues guitarist, but when you watch that movie they say he is playing the bass guitar. I never really got into his roll in the moie with him, but I do believe his model out by Colt is Bass right? He is a cool guy really laid back and quiet talker. JoeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburkart 0 #16 June 1, 2004 Matt "Guitar" Murphy plays guitar for the Blues Brothers Band. I don't have the movie so if you're saying the credits list Murphy as the bassist I won't argue. However, if you're saying you know Mr. Murphy and he is is the white guy playing bass I will tell you something is wrong, as Murphy is black. Oh, and he plays guitar. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Anyway, like I said, I don't have the movie so it is possible that Matt "Guitar" Murphy is playing bass in some scenes, but the recording session was done by Donald "Duck" Dunn. Maybe Duck couldn't make the shoot... Donald Duck Dunn is one of the all-time top session bassists (Memphis' Stax/Volt), just as Joe Osborne (L.A.) and James Jamerson (Detroits' Motown) were. (Honorable mention to Funk Brother Bob Babbitt too.) At one time if you had gotten those guys in a room together you couldn't have swung a dead cat without hitting a P bass (Fender), and you'd be pissing off a group responsible for most of the great basslines in pop music spanning decades. Pretty good reference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedXT 0 #17 June 1, 2004 No....he is not the white guy in the band, he is the black gentleman who cooks in the dinner with Mrs. Franklin. He is in the Blue Brothers Band still and he often plays at Casinos on the east cost. I thought he was bass but I guess I was wrong. I took some photos of him one time when they released his guitar and listening to him strum there in the store was amazing. I have only seen him play live 1 time. JoeFor long as you live and high you fly and smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry and all that you touch and all that you see is all your life will ever be. Pedro Offers you his Protection. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #18 June 1, 2004 And here I was thinking you were goin' fishin'....-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburkart 0 #19 June 1, 2004 QuoteAnd here I was thinking you were goin' fishin'... I was starting to think the same; WTF is a Colt guitar? Turns out Murphy does indeed have a sig model -Cort-, and it gets good reviews at Harmony Central (FWIW.) Kinda PRS looking... http://www.cort.com/endorse/murphy/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #20 June 1, 2004 Cloud. What are you hoping to do with it? Are you going to be gigging? If so, what kind of venues - open air, small clubs, festivals, what? Those should determine what you do to get it. 400 W should be fine for just about everything. Personally, I think it's a bit much for a bass. You'll sound fine up close, but you'll drown everybody else out. Also, if your venues are playing with a sound technician running off a mixing board, you will hopefully either one will sound good at low volumes. Either way, when I hear the sound, I'll know it's cloudseeker rattling those dishes. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #21 June 2, 2004 QuoteCloud. What are you hoping to do with it? Are you going to be gigging? If so, what kind of venues - open air, small clubs, festivals, what? Those should determine what you do to get it. 400 W should be fine for just about everything. Personally, I think it's a bit much for a bass. You'll sound fine up close, but you'll drown everybody else out. Also, if your venues are playing with a sound technician running off a mixing board, you will hopefully either one will sound good at low volumes. Either way, when I hear the sound, I'll know it's cloudseeker rattling those dishes. Dish rattlin sounds like lots of fun! I live in a townhouse with vaulted ceilings and wood floors and it gets too loud for me from time to time! Neigbors have never called the cops, but they do tell me I am getting better!400w would give me enough power to play in different venues and I could always turn down a little. Right now I have a 25w bassman that does really well with an acoustic guitar. So from a 25w to a 400w would be like me going from my 240 main to Dereks "G" string canopy! But, it looks as though I will be putting off buying an amp for a little while. I was checking out a practice room today and I ran into a old friend I have not seen in some time.......It turns out his band has one of the biggest rooms there and invited me to join them for only 60$ instead of 130$ a month! The really cool part is he has an Ampeg halfstack and a G+K halfstack that I can use! So it looks as though I will be saving up a couple of K to buy a really nice bass.........About time for some good luck! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sburkart 0 #22 June 2, 2004 Quote400 W should be fine for just about everything. Personally, I think it's a bit much for a bass. Couldn't disagree more. 450 watts is a start; there is much more emphasis on bass in modern music (even country) than there ever was in classic rock, add in the sub-harmonic content used by some R+B-or bands such as Tantric or Nickelback and 450 watts punks out pretty quick. There are things that Aphex enhancement can fix, but lack of power aint one of them. Seriously, I'd love it if 450 watts was a bit much. As it is 830 watts through a 210 and a 212 is my small rig, double the cabs and triple the power is my largest. As you noted, it all depends on the gig- if there's a FOH, etc. I'd add it depends on the material too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #23 June 2, 2004 QuoteHAHA! Not BASE, but Bass guitar rig! Any thoughts from fellow musicians is much welcome'dI have been looking at a Fender Bassman pro 400w combo with the extra 15 cabinet(for the extra kick!) or an Ampeg SVT 350 head and SVT 18 cabinet. I used Ampeg SVTs for many years professionally. Great punchy sound, and unburstable. You can't go wrong with them. There's only one rig better IMHO, and that's what I use now, The Trace Elliot 500W with 4X10 and 1X18. I user Rickenbacker 4003s, so I can really develop that ringing punch they are famous for. Here's a picture of the rig and one of the basses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #24 June 3, 2004 QuoteQuoteHAHA! Not BASE, but Bass guitar rig! Any thoughts from fellow musicians is much welcome'dI have been looking at a Fender Bassman pro 400w combo with the extra 15 cabinet(for the extra kick!) or an Ampeg SVT 350 head and SVT 18 cabinet. I used Ampeg SVTs for many years professionally. Great punchy sound, and unburstable. You can't go wrong with them. There's only one rig better IMHO, and that's what I use now, The Trace Elliot 500W with 4X10 and 1X18. I user Rickenbacker 4003s, so I can really develop that ringing punch they are famous for. Here's a picture of the rig and one of the basses. What a sweeet bass rig that is! Oh, yea, nice Fender too! "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
