jtval 0 #26 January 13, 2006 QuoteOk, my point was. The guy (not you) who thought that was the perfect breakfast, literally thought that, would be a total chauvinist pig. A man who wanted his wife abducted and to date a porn star. I'm pretty sure that you don't literally think that. Just as I don't literally think that I would like to have a breakfast with some guy getting neutered. I also made a funny. I even did it with the caps lock on to show you that I was doing the other side of your joke. How much more obvious would you like it? that about sums it up. no more obvious is need thanks! if you see my post where you were offended that I called you pyscho you'll see a smiley face there. Miscommunication maybe?My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #27 January 13, 2006 Quotethe way I read her joke was that she was trying to insinuate that I was the chauvinist b/c I posted the joke in the first place. "Meaning is what you bring to things, not what you take from them." Lois McMaster Bujold As I said, the problem wasn't the joke. You have no idea how hateful it is to women to hear men do the "psycho bitch from hell" routine, especially when it seems to be a cognate for "ex-girlfriend." My ex-husband did that while we were married. He even got his-sister-the-social-worker to "diagnose" me as a borderline personality. Finally, one day, I talked him into calling the psychiatrist he'd spent two days a week with for more than seven years to ask for his diagnosis. She told him he had narcissistic personality disorder. In a way, he was right. By the time I left, he'd damn near drove me crazy. I thought your joke was funny, and I laughed. But for more women than you can imagine, your reply to Karen hit a very raw nerve. Sorry. rl Edited to add: The miscommunication is that even with a smiley, "psycho" isn't funny.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #28 January 13, 2006 QuoteI don't literally think that I would like to have a breakfast with some guy getting neutered. That would put the brakes on the romance. "Hmmm...he's handsome... polite, charming... intelligent, caring, and... DOH! neutered!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #29 January 13, 2006 QuoteAs I said, the problem wasn't the joke. You have no idea how hateful it is to women to hear men do the "psycho bitch from hell" routine, especially when it seems to be a cognate for "ex-girlfriend." Exactly. That word is a lethal thing to say about a woman, but now it seems to have become something guys throw around all the time. Women who have done no wrong are then left with this stigma. "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #30 January 13, 2006 so why do you feel I need to apologize for MY double standard. you clearly have the same problem. its cool for the chauvinist pig comment because its funny? ( actually it still sounds pretty pointed to me) You have no idea how hateful it is to women to hear men do the "psycho bitch from hell" routine, especially when it seems to be a cognate for "ex-girlfriend." um, sounds alot like "chauv. pig ex husband" only reversed. see why THAT sounded HATEFUL to ME? whatever. it was a joke if you took it the wrong way or If I took it the wrong way I'll live to see tomorrow. we'll mark this as a miscommunication ( at least I will)My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #31 January 13, 2006 It's obvious to me that Karen was responding to your joke with a joke from the female perspective using the same type of outline. Your "psycho" response was uncalled for. The only thing more insulting than that would have been if you had asked her if she was on the rag.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #32 January 13, 2006 QuoteThat word is a lethal thing to say about a woman, but now it seems to have become something guys throw around all the time. Women who have done no wrong are then left with this stigma. Guys throw it around all the time? Perhaps some do, be careful using generalizations. I've only used that phrase to describe 1 woman who, as I found out after becoming involved with her, really was psychotic (and an alcoholic too.. not a good combination).The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #33 January 13, 2006 Quoteum, sounds alot like "chauv. pig ex husband" only reversed. see why THAT sounded HATEFUL to ME? A male chauvinist pig is not presumed to be insane. Look, this issue is too complicated for the Bonfire, so I'm going to stop. Just understand that when I hear that, it makes my gut clench and my jaw grind, and I'm not the only one. If you want to be a success with women, you'll take it out of your vocabulary, because the next girlfriend doesn't really want to hear that your last girlfriend was psycho. We all know what it really means. Quotewhatever. it was a joke if you took it the wrong way or If I took it the wrong way I'll live to see tomorrow. we'll mark this as a miscommunication ( at least I will) I can live with that. I just hope you (and every guy reading this) gives some thought to what's been said here. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #34 January 13, 2006 QuoteIt's obvious to me that Karen was responding to your joke with a joke from the female perspective using the same type of outline. Your "psycho" response was uncalled for. The only thing more insulting than that would have been if you had asked her if she was on the rag. Amen. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #35 January 13, 2006 Lots do . . . pretty much to the point where if a guy mentions that an ex was "psycho", I immediately write him off. It usually is more of an indication of the guy's attitude towards women than of the woman's actual behavior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #36 January 13, 2006 I'd hate to say this andrea but this is way the fuck out of control IT WAS A JOKE. SHE RESPONDED with what I see as the same hatefullness that you are all accusing me of. pretty funny how double standards workMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yamtx73 0 #37 January 13, 2006 QuoteLots do . . . pretty much to the point where if a guy mentions than an ex was "psycho", I immediately write him off. It usually is more of an indication of the guy's attitude towards women than of the actual woman's behavior. Perhaps alot of men do, from talking to other men at work and such I rarely hear that phrase. Any way, I've nothing further to add to this discussion.....The only naturals in this sport shit thru feathers... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #38 January 13, 2006 youre so the morlae highness that I couldn't even compare to you! you are correct! Rl you gut clench the same way I do when I hear the chauv pig comment thrown around its obvious what you women think of men! stop with the bullshit you feel the need to ostracize me? Have at it maybe you should take your own adviceMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #39 January 13, 2006 QuoteAnd here this whole time I thought it was cold pizza... *** It is...just knock off the cigarette butts and chase it down with warm back wash beer!~ Breakfast of EX champions!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #40 January 13, 2006 QuoteQuoteAnd here this whole time I thought it was cold pizza... *** It is...just knock off the cigarette butts and chase it down with warm back wash beer!~ Breakfast of EX champions!! lol WARM BEER and COLD PIZZAMy photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #41 January 13, 2006 Well, obviously you're finding out that calling a woman "psycho" is NOT considered a joke amongst women! You're not understanding what we are telling you. Maybe you will be able to another day. I'm going to lock this thread because I don't want you to feel like you have to keep defending yourself, especially after you've apologized for it being a misunderstanding.She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #42 January 13, 2006 I know you aren't talking to me. I wasn't even responding to you. You made a joking comment. I was referring to guys who continually refer to all of their exes as psycho, in response to the direction the thread had gone immediately prior to my post. Are you one of those guys? Fuck if I know. And I thought both jokes were funny, just FYI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
