Blink 0 #1 October 9, 2007 Good evening all, I've searched many, posts, but am unable to answer my question, so here goes: I have read that the recovery arc of the Cobalt is longer than a Stilleto, but how is it compared to a Crossfire2? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 October 9, 2007 There are a lot of factors involved, but in my experience with the same sized canopies at the same wingloading the XF2 has a longer recovery arc then the Cobalt.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blink 0 #3 October 9, 2007 Thanks for the quick reply Dave. What about Sabre2's for anyone that's got experience on tboth of those? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 October 9, 2007 Yup, me again. I've put a good number of jumps on the same sized Sabre2 at the same wingloading as a XF2, Cobalt, Stiletto and others (Safire2, Pilot, Mamba, VX, Velo, Katana, Nitro...and a string of others that I have a handful of jumps on). The Sabre2 has a longer recovery arc then a Stiletto, about the same if not just a hair shorter then a Cobalt, shorter then a XF2 and significantly shorter then a Katana. For me if I was looking for a good entry level canopy I'd get a Sabre2. If I wanted a moderate canopy for beginning swooping then I'd stay with the Sabre2. Basically I'd jump the Sabre2 until reaching around a 1.6 wingloading then change over to the same sized Katana jumping those until around a 2.0-2.1 wingloading then move onto a Velocity. That's over the course of a minimum of 1000 jumps with coaching. That's just me, though. If I was you, I'd demo everything I could get my hands on that is appropriate for my skill set, jump numbers and experience. Find a local mentor and go from there (along with coaching from experienced and qualified people like Scott Miller).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blink 0 #5 October 9, 2007 Thanks very much Dave, that's where I figured the canopy stood (about the same as Sabre2, but less than CF2, recovery arc wise). I've got a couple mentors and definately plan to get as much help/advice/coaching as I can. Thanks again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #6 October 15, 2007 the cobalt has a "positive" recovery arc, it will come out of a dive without control input. at equal wing loadings the cobalt has a faster or shorter recovery arc than a stilleto.Daniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blink 0 #7 October 15, 2007 So does this make the Cobalt a bad choice for swooping? I've read that the Stiletto had a very quick recovery arc, and wasn't best suited for swooping, so would this make the Cobalt even more less suitable for swooping? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #8 October 15, 2007 Quoteso would this make the Cobalt even more less suitable for swooping? It opens quite nice. I love how it flies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cobaltdan 0 #9 October 21, 2007 > So does this make the Cobalt a bad choice for swooping? no, the cobalt is an ideal and forgiving choice at low wing loadings to learn swooping and at higher wing loadings is suitable to compete on. A few years ago Eric Butts competed under a cobalt 120 (he is a BIG guy) and was ranked 9th i believe after a year of competition against a field of all crossbraced canopies, Chuck blue, used to compete under a cobalt as well. It wont swoop as far as a velocity or x1 but a good pilot can get a respectable 250-300' swoop. -Daniel Preston <><> atairaerodynamics.com (sport) atairaerospace.com (military) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites