Bear Grylls

[BGill 0]

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I like Bear's show, he's got decent survival skills....but he tries to add too much "reality" hollywood type acting. He teaches bad techniques sometimes whereas Survivorman does it right. Boring sometimes yes, but right.

My thoughts exactly.

[JohnRich 4]

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Unfamiliar, uneven, rocky, high altitude with no wind indicators? Would a competant skydiver jump into that situation? If yes, then he should also have the ability to safely land in that situation. Based on what I have seen, his freefall they show on tv, I would say he has probably a few hundred jumps tops.

What if some 2-300 jump kid from your dropzone wanted to do a demo into an unfamiliar, uneven, rocky, high altitude with no wind indicators - sight unseen. Would you consider someone who put themselve in that situation competant? Again, lots of needless risks, and it perpetuates the myth that skydiving landings are controlled crashed.

I'm sure that all of your landings are absolutely perfect, all of the time, in all conditions, thereby making you the only "competent" skydiver in the whole world.

Bear is not a rookie at a commercial drop zone.

Do you consider all B.A.S.E. jumpers to be "incompetent", because they choose to jump in rough conditions and land in rough terrain?

Don't watch the show if you don't like it.

[Derekbox 0]

I do like the show, I watch it regularly. Never said I didnt. I also think the man has some balls to do what he does... eat what he does.

But my origional point of him being an unneccisary risk taker... stands, it is in my opinion.

We arent talking about my landings... but if you want to compare us... before I land I look at my landing area, the wind, the traffic and plan my landing, allowing for my best chances of a good landing. I think it is that planning that makes a competant skydiver.

If he wants to jump into whet ever outback/jungle/dessert, thats cool, Im jeolous, I wish I could do the same. But being a skydiver, I think him producing content showing him plowing in landings is acting as a poor ambqassador to skydiving.

So thats it, I stand on my point, if you cant agree to disagree then that is fine with me. But with all the bad press skydiving gets already, between the serious injuries & fatalites, the misconceptions floating around the general whuffo public. Showing him plowing in isnt doing the skydiving any favors recruiting potential jumpers.

[sv3n 0]

Can't say that I've ever seen the show, but it sounds like a lot of glam and drama...........there's no need to drink elephant poo juice. If that's what he's into that's his business and I'm sure that it helps ratings.

But if you want real knowledge on the subject, study from experts in the field...like Tom Brown Jr., he's trained all sorts of special forces guys and written several books. Never once has he referred to "the best place to get water in the desert is the poo of an elephant".

...and you're in violation of your face!

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

You need to see that episode to be able to keep the "drinking elephant poo" in context.


Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

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I'm sure that all of your landings are absolutely perfect, all of the time, in all conditions, thereby making you the only "competent" skydiver in the whole world.

Bear is not a rookie at a commercial drop zone.

Do you consider all B.A.S.E. jumpers to be "incompetent", because they choose to jump in rough conditions and land in rough terrain?

Don't watch the show if you don't like it.

Last night he landed on the Kenya plains and still fell over, looked like he was on a student sized canopy. He said wow this landing is gunna be fast (it wasn't) and still biffed it

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

Sheeesh everyone is a freakin' critic!!

Take the show for what it is...entertainment. Y'all are freakin' analyzing it to death and taking all the fun out of it!!


Me personally? I think all the men here are jealous because they aren't doing a survival show...seeing new places, skydiving into tough terrain, basically playing "boy scout" and getting paid for it. Lets face it...Bear has got a GREAT job!!





Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

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Sheeesh everyone is a freakin' critic!!

Take the show for what it is...entertainment. Y'all are freakin' analyzing it to death and taking all the fun out of it!!

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Bobbi

NAG NAG NAG NAG read my 1st post, i said it should be veiwed as light entertainment. I find it funny that he tries to build up the drama in everything he does even slowed arsed landings on big arse canopies

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

Blah, blah, blah....my post was towards everyone not just you. Sheeesh you always think its about you....you you you...





Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

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Blah, blah, blah....my post was towards everyone not just you. Sheeesh you always think its about you....you you you...



Bobbi

Well is it's not all about me stop asking me for nekid pictures of myself inPMs

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

Please reread your post. I have no clue what you are trying to convey. You drinking again??





Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

[Beerlight 0]

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Sheeesh everyone is a freakin' critic!!

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sheeesh Bobbi, we won't talk ill of your boytoy again.....

[SkydiveStMarys 0]

My boy toy?? LOLOL!!

Yeah he is a hottie, but geez...I got more then I can handle right here in my comfy home!!

Don't be a hater.... The color green doesn't suit you either.

Bobbi

A miracle is not defined by an event. A miracle is defined by gratitude.

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He totaly would. I am sure for you girls he wasn't as much to look at, he had this Grizzly Adams thing going on. But he carried his own camera, so if he crossed a river he had to cross back and get his gear. Now that is bad ass.

No camera crew pansy shiet.

When you watch Les Stroud (Suvivorman), after a few days, he has ragged stubble and pouches under his bloodshot eyes. His hair is dirty and he has dirt and grit under his fingernails.

The only thing he regularly carries in a multi-tool. He starts fires on his own or does without. He's out there by himself and lugging 70-80 lbs of camera gear.

I just started watching Man vs Wild and was talking at work about how much better Bear seemed to hold up and how much tougher he must be (I did wonder about the artfully shaved man stubble)...WRONG!

A co-worker's brother works for a catering service that brought in a full on major lunch every day for Bear and the crew. Bear spent his nights in a suite here:

http://www.miccosukee.com/resort.html

Bear and the crew would go out every morning and get shots of Bear pretending to eat and drink obnoxious things and pretending to sleep in a tree. The Park services expert would explain to Bear about some bit of flora or fauna and Bear would parrot it for the camera. Then, he choppers back to the casino for fine dining and a soft bed.

He is kinda cute. A total fraud ...but cute.

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[Mark24688m 0]

Anybody who states that Bear spends his nights in a hotel is a moron. Period. Ya, I'm sure in the middle of the freaking amazon rainforest he hops in a jeep, drives a hundred miles to a hotel, spends the night, then drives back the next day and starts back over where he left off. Same thing for the Australian outback, Moab desert, hawaiian lava fields, and any other place hes been in. Even if they were just filming it hollywood style, the most they would do is set up a tent for him after the cameras shut off and give him some food or somthing. Hotels. What a joke. Get real people.

[jenfly00 0]

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Anybody who states that Bear spends his nights in a hotel is a moron. Period. Ya, I'm sure in the middle of the freaking amazon rainforest he hops in a jeep, drives a hundred miles to a hotel, spends the night, then drives back the next day and starts back over where he left off. Same thing for the Australian outback, Moab desert, hawaiian lava fields, and any other place hes been in. Even if they were just filming it hollywood style, the most they would do is set up a tent for him after the cameras shut off and give him some food or somthing. Hotels. What a joke. Get real people.

While filming the Everglades segment, he stayed at the Miccosukee Resort and Casino and flew by helicopter to and from location. The catering company used their parking lot as the staging area for the food to be loaded. The Everglades National Park provided a local expert to tell his what was what in the swamp.

I have no doubt the Everglades show was a one time exception to how he handles the rest of his shows. An uncharacteristic moment of weakness, no doubt.

Ya know, now that I think about it, how do we know he is actually in the middle of the rain forest? For all we know, there is a major highway on the other side of the camera. No. wait, that would be impossible, no?

I'm curious, did the camera crew parachute into the rain forest also? Hell, no way a helicopter could reach any part of civilization from such a remote location as an Hawaiian lava field.

Yes, Virginia, there is a Bear Grylls ...but he ain't no Survivorman!

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"O brave new world that has such people in it".

[Beerlight 0]

Guess I'm a moron then!! Dont' get all upset because Bear isn't that good. He puts on a great television program!, although he displays poor survival skills on occasion.

signed,

moron