smoke canisters

[jlmiracle 7]

Anyone know where to find the smoke canisters that you jump with? Its actually not for a skydive but missing man formation.

Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

[quade 3]

Pyro smoke for jumping and pyro smoke for aircraft are two different things. ("Normal" smoke for aircraft is simply caster oil injected into the exhaust system.)

Smoke for jumping is ignited manually by pulling a little ring attached to a chemical igniter similar to a match.

Smoke for aircraft is ignited electrically by applying a small amount of current similar to a model rocket engine.

You can get smoke for jumpers from Paragear.com.

I'm not certain where you can get the smoke for aircraft, but if you contact Bret Willat over at www.skysailing.com he'll definately know. He helped "invent" the aircraft pyro smoke by getting the manufacturers to put in the electric igniters.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[jlmiracle 7]

Thank you for the info. I keep getting these calls (I'm stuck answering the dz phone while everyone else is in Rantoul). Apparently there is some flying event in Memphis this weekend.


Blue Skies
Judy
If your not living on the edge you're taking up too much room.

Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

[quade 3]

THIS WEEKEND?!?

Nothing like waiting until the last minute huh?

Pyro smoke (at least from Paragear.com) must be shipped via ground so lead times can be sort of tricky. My guess is that if you don't already have it in hand, there's probably not going to be any smoke this weekend.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[hobbes4star 0]

also i belive you need a C lic. to purchuse smoke canisters. is this right???

if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right?

[jlmiracle 7]

This weekend. I was thinking the same. I got a call yesterday for someone wanting a demo for Friday into class B airspace.

Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

[quade 3]

One last note about pyro smoke for jumpers.

White smoke is a lot less expensive, burns a bit cooler and generally shows up better.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[quade 3]

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also i belive you need a C lic. to purchuse smoke canisters. is this right???

Never heard that one before.

The smoke brackets are a considerable snag hazard, so it might just be a damn good idea to get some instruction from a local PRO-rated jumper before even thinking about it though.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[wlie 0]

A chemist friend tells me that if you mixed iodine crystals with aluminium fillings, and add water, you'll get massive vibrant purple smoke. But it burns fast and really hot so I can't imagine a homebrew being safe.

I came across making smoke signals using diesel once. It supposedly doesn't give off much heat. I'm not sure what the ingredients are. Anybody heard of this?

Take a look at boating stores. They'll carry them smoke canisters.

[quade 3]

Geeze, I hope nobody tries any of these suggestions for skydiving.

I think they're totally inappropriate for that purpose.

quade -
The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[wlie 0]

I'm deleting my 2 posts because I don't want to get sued by some stupid jackass who would not take personal responsiblity and thoroughly think through the consequences of their actions by blindly following the suggestions of someone who is not qualified in the field of pyro, and has a history of setting fires and electrical shorts when he was a kid.

[hobbes4star 0]

hey how did you know that i had those problems as a child. Don't worry though the meds are working perfectly. I take them all the time Just like the nice dr. told me too.

if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right?

[wlie 0]

Is that why you're still spinnin'?

[hobbes4star 0]

what do you mean it that why i am still spinning. i thought that was all of you.
actually this is my happy dance. my meds make me a happy person....

if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right?

[airann 1]

Smoke stains jumpsuits. FYI

~AirAnn~

[wlie 0]

So does grass and dog crap in the landing area.

[airann 1]

If my dog left a Le Poup in the landing area you could do accuracy on that.

If he Peed - Swoop Pond.

He is a Great Dane.

~AirAnn~

[hobbes4star 0]

that is a big dog

if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right?

[wlie 0]

If I toss him a dynamite, he can go fetch

I had a great dane. Really sweet animals. Great with kids.

Now will he let my niece ride him like a little pony?

[steve1 5]

Quade,
I don't suppose any one jumps with standard army smoke grenades any more. We used to in the olden days. You needed a metal bracket to attach to you french jump boots, because of the heat they would generate. A friend of mine was making a demo one day and couldn't find the proper bracket. I can't remember how he had it attached, but he ended up with some pretty severe burns on his foot. There was always the chance that the smoke might color your canopy or jump suit. I've also heard of spark holes. I remember jumping into a football game once. A friend was under canopy right across from me. He had a spinning malfunction with a red smoke grenade on his foot. It was quite a sight to watch. Luckily we had a big DZ and he was able to land his 24' round reserve without injury. Aren't you glad you didn't jump back then! Steve1

[quade 3]

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I don't suppose any one jumps with standard army smoke grenades any more.

I think the last time the Canadian Sky Hawks were down at Perris I saw them using some military smoke they had brought down and I assume the GKs have access to way neater stuff than the average jumper does as well.

That said, I think it's way easier for the average skydiver just to order the stuff that Para Gear sells.

One more note, Para Gear does NOT sell smoke brackets. Newbies wanting smoke brackets, flags, banners and the like should probably seek the advice and wisdom of a local PRO-rated skydiver. Folks in SoCal really ought to seek the advice of Jim Wallace for all PRO-rated matters.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[JSBIRD 1]

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("Normal" smoke for aircraft is simply caster oil injected into the exhaust system.)

Actually, it's corvis oil. It's primary use was on wooden concrete forms to prevent sticking.

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"Now I've settled down,
in a quiet little town,
and forgot about everything"

[bowlan 0]

b.a.r.industries
cold casing 300 gram cold smoke electric or pull pin

[TitaniumLegs 8]

This might explain why we haven't heard from this guy in a couple years...
Did anybody ever get any smoke from him?
Any good?

(>o|-<

If you don't believe me, ask me.

[pyromelon 0]

Can I get you guy's/gal's opinion on these smoke I developed for skydivers? Electric fire or pull-wire under screw off safety cap. All paper. Won't get hot enough to blister with the first touch. No metal is used.

Blue (no cats were harmed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fEjvBzs-UM

Red - (my camera or monitor ruins the nice color.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UF7RWHjOSM&feature=related