sigma harness on racer tandem.

[skydiverjerry 0]

can you use the sigma harness on the racer tandem?
perhaps bill would be kind enough to reply? if so how would the fitting differ if any?
if not why not?
i have used the sigma harness and love it for students!
blue skies

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[slotperfect 7]

PM Nightjumper (Mike Forsythe), formerly of Jump Shack.

He is a regular poster here and will be able to answer your question. You really need to ask the manufacturer of the "receiving" system.

Arrive Safely

John

[NightJumper 0]

If you are asking will it work...Yes. Has and is it done....Yes. Will either manufacture authorize it....NO. If you have one of the old style racer harnesses call Jump Shack and get one of the new 2K3 tandem passenger harnesses and demo it. Hope this helps.

Stay safe,
Mike

[SkymonkeyONE 3]

Yes, it will physically hook up, but the side strap connections on RWS tandem rigs are at the base of the rig while they are in the middle of the back on a Racer. I own a Racer, but most of my tandems are with a Sigma and I wouldn't consider hodge-podging like that.

[riggerrob 561]

Last time I posed this question to Bill Booth, he replied that you could hand any (certified) tandem student harness on the front of a Vector or Sigma, but why would you bother. Then Bill launched into a description of why Sigma harnesses are so much better than anybody elses' harnesses.

I have to admit that ringed Strong student harnesses are probably as comfortable as Sigma harnesses, but too complicated for my feeble brain.

[bclark 0]

I have seen Sigma harnesses used on other systems with no problems. (Eclipse).

I just got a chance to have a real close look at one of the new Strong harnesses. They look nice, but I don't understand why they went back to the reverse adjusting, spring bar vertical lift webs. Seems like a step backwards to me. My buddy was actually warming one up so it would be easier to adjust. (granted it was cold).

[riggerrob 561]

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I have seen Sigma harnesses used on other systems with no problems. (Eclipse).

I just got a chance to have a real close look at one of the new Strong harnesses. They look nice, but I don't understand why they went back to the reverse adjusting, spring bar vertical lift webs. Seems like a step backwards to me. My buddy was actually warming one up so it would be easier to adjust. (granted it was cold).

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Agreed!
I do not know why Strong made their latest student harnesses so complicated.

Granted the new hip configuration does help get students' legs out in front for slide landings.

But I preferred having MLW adjusters up - on the front of shoulders - where I can reach them in the the plane.

As for the spring-loaded gate in the hardware .... the basic problem is that most of the hardware was designed for thick, bulky cotton webbing. Adjustable MLWs have been a problem for as long as we have been using nylon webbing.
When I phoned Sun Path about their most recent service bulletin, they recommended fixed length harnesses.

The only adjustable student harnesses that hold consistently are the Type 13 MLWs on Sidewinders, with spring-loaded friction adapters. Even so, Sidewinders only last 5 to 8 years, then you have to replace the frayed webbing.

They are called "friction" adapters for a reason. Every time you load a harness, the hardware rubs the webbing a little bit.

[Unstable 8]

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PM Nightjumper (Mike Forsythe), formerly of Jump Shack.

This statement has confused me; Is Mike Forsythe no longer with JumpShack?

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[slotperfect 7]

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Is Mike Forsythe no longer with JumpShack?

Mike PM'd me to let me know he is now working for CPS.

Arrive Safely

John