skajdajver 0 #1 August 16, 2004 Im currently jumping a Sabre2, 170 (wl 1.0). And im going to downsize as i am buying a new container and canopy. Should i stick to Sabre2 or buy a Safire2? I kind of like my Sabre2 but the openings are really crap. I always get off heading openings (have had 2 on heading openings out of 150 jumps). I really like flying it though, but compared to other canopies its kind of ground hungry. Afraid i wont get back to the dz from those longspots. Is the Safire2 less ground hungry? Anyone who know´s if the glide is better on Safire2? Is there a big difference between 150 and 139? Off all things to believe in - why not yourself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #2 August 16, 2004 1) why not a 149? Or a 150 for that matter, they make them whatever size you want. 2) seach for: sabre safire - there's loads and loads of threads on these two canopies and comparisons between them. 3) add in the Pilot from Arodyne to your deliberations - it's the equal of either and depending on who you talk to, better. (Additionally I think it has the best glide of the three if I remember rightly). 4) from my exp of flying both canopies they're very similar except that the safire has better opeinings and the power band is slightly further into the flare. 5) I'm surprised you think the sabre 2 sinks - many people shout about how good it's glide is in 1/2-3/4 breaks. 6) demo demo demo - both manufactureres offer great demo programs. You could have both canopies for a weekend each for a few bucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koz2000 1 #3 August 16, 2004 Also try Precision's Fusion. I've had a lot of people who had been jumping the Sabre2 and tried it. (I've got a 120 & 170) They really liked it. As the last poster said DEMO DEMO DEMO!!______________________________________________ - Does this small canopy make my balls look big? - J. Hayes - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #4 August 18, 2004 Try everything you can. Personally I loved my safire's. I think the performance speaks for itself. And once again... demo, demo, demo. Did I mention Icarus has a 31 day satisfaction guarantee? Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #5 August 18, 2004 try everything you can, I'd vote : Safire2 or Fusion Personnal choice...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hipgnosis 0 #6 August 18, 2004 You should also consider a Pilot which is definitely in the same league as Sabre2 with real nice openings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
friflaj 0 #7 August 18, 2004 I demoed both the Safire2 and the Sabre2. The Sabre2 flew great, but those openings were consistently uber-crappy (wildly offheading, angle, direction and dive steepness totally unpredictable), and with a kilo of camera on your head that distinctly sucks. I now fly the Safire2, and I love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tfelber 0 #8 August 19, 2004 Just got back from Rantoul with the same thought on my mind see the following: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1203217#1203217 Hope it helps. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
