cpoxon 0 #1 May 27, 2004 What is the justification for a Tandem Cypres being more expensive than an Expert or Student one? Technically I can only think that it is because it's operation is different or that the market is smaller for this different operation, yet the same applies to a Student Cypres and that is the same price as an Expert one. Square1 doesn't list Tandem Cypres and ParaGear says call for the price (implying that it's different from the Student/Expert), but UK dealer, DZ Sports, lists the Tandem unit as 20% more expensive than the Student/Expert one. Looking at the AirTec website there is actually physically more to the Student unit. Apart from that, it's just the operating parameters. See attached spreadsheet. So, the only reason I can see is because that Tandem generates more revenue, therefore a more expenisve unit is affordable i.e. profit for AirTec. Can this be true?Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 May 27, 2004 Perhapse because the demand is lower, there for the price is higher?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #3 May 27, 2004 QuotePerhapse because the demand is lower, there for the price is higher? That's what I meant about the market being smaller, but then, wouldn't the same apply to Student units?Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerr 0 #4 May 27, 2004 Quote So, the only reason I can see is because that Tandem generates more revenue, therefore a more expenisve unit is affordable i.e. profit for AirTec. Can this be true? I'd guess this is the most probable reason. I doubt that the manufacturing cost is any higher. I sure that they would have done sepperate testing of the tandem settings to make sure that they were the best for the job, but I doubt that made much impact to the end price of the unit. Manufacurers will charge what they think the market will bear. The tandem market supports a higher priced Cypres, therfore it costs more? The Military version has more features, but I bet they charge way more than the extra r&d would justify. Maybe all the extra cash goes in a big legal defence fund? -- Kerr Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cliffharris 0 #5 May 27, 2004 What is, two lives cost more than one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #6 May 27, 2004 Perhaps since there are less sold, it takes longer to pay off the Tool and Dye and R&D. That is just a guess, and yours is as good as mine. But I bet if you e-mail the manufacturer they will quench your curiosity. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #7 May 27, 2004 The only difference is a higher altitude and lower speed threshold, similar to the student model, right? There's no difference in manufacturing then. guesses: 1) You're citing a 20% higher price at the store, right? Far fewer customers are looking for that unit. 2) does anyone else make a tandem AAD? 3) since it's being used for a commercial purpose, may have a higher liability risk and/or performance standard than the regular units. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #8 May 27, 2004 It's possible the price elasticity of demand for tandem units is different from that of student and expert units, such that the largest price/quantity rectangle (revenue) is found under a point with a higher price. The difference in price elasticity of demand could be caused by DZs knowing tandems are more dangerous than single-student jumps, or any of a bunch of other factors, including alternative choices. How many other manufacturers make tandem-configured AADs? I recall one mfgr opted not to make 2-pin expert models, so perhaps there is less competition in the tandem space. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #9 May 28, 2004 If you not satisfied, you may choose different product like Vigil..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyRock 0 #10 May 29, 2004 QuoteIf you not satisfied, you may choose different product like Vigil..... uh, i'll take the cypres. -Seth :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beej 0 #11 May 30, 2004 I don't think Craig is dissatisfied - he simply has an inquisitive mind. ---------------------------------------------------- If the shit fits - wear it (blues brothers)-- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casquito 0 #12 May 30, 2004 I like the lifetime warranty... If it doesn't fire and save your life, they'll replace it for you. The Cypres, not your life. Ha ha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
