CaretakerAl

Naw, he's a Democrat.

"I know it wont last long; its futile." I'm still goin' after all these years..... This marks my forty-turd year. 1968-2011. The further you go the harder they get, and I live in the last block, last house. Futility is in the eye of the beholder. There are two people who have accepted what I say. And they are in the positions to count. Nuttall, less Gov't Island, etc., would be a possibility. Getting something wrong does not 'blow your credibility' and throw out everything else. Constant negative responses, steady counter-information, flat-out refusing to listen, proclamations of insanity, lying, trolling and misdirection should not enter in to the discussion. Simple give and take discussion would be constructive and help Jo answer questions. Why is there so much competition here? Post a three word sentence and get accused of Piracy on the High Seas. This could be really constructive. Is there an underlying motive or really just the nature of skydivers in general? Are you all Democrats? Strike that!

Please. Pretty much everyone has lied at one point or another and almost all of us do it on a regular basis as part of the "niceties" of living in a modern world. To deny it in all caps, is just silly. OK. Given. Let me amend the statement made in a moment of frustration: I have never lied about anything having to do with this case. I have had some misinformation which I was corrected on when presented with valid information, but everyone has. Even Blevin, and like a real man he admits it. He just needs to check out the will and yank the book altogether. Jo, I will be happy to limit my posts to no more than 5 per week if that makes you happy. Will you be nice and at least consider the possibility of what I tell you rather than refusing to listen? Be as tolerant as you were with Jason, and that was going ten miles, I'm sure.

"No harness" Who said no harness? I stated what was said by the trainer to the jumper. I have never seen, nor do I understand anything about jumping, the hardware, or how to mount this on that. That is not something I can do. I remember being told that whatever he was using could be put in back and that nobody knew that. He would have to reach, but it would work. Go fetch. You are the experts, I only report what was said. There is an awful lot of misinformation that the 'crew for cover-up' has puked up. Are you sure the info you have on the harness is correct? The trainer was one of the best riggers in the business. I have full confidence he knew what he was talking about.

"Yes Knoss, you didn't know I knew that did you?" Gee, I sure should, since I was the one who explained everything I had done for you. You must know these things, why not tell the whole truth? You can't have it half-way with all the info that is out there. Mac said it was OK to tell his story, he was 'dead' anyway. The FBI guy said, "Call the FBI, tell them, I don't work there anymore." Others have threatened me with serious harm, several times. And you think I want to lie? Well, I probably damn well should, but I don't. I try to provide the truth you asked me to give you. Sometimes the truth is not pretty and tied with a bow. You know where this case goes, and I ain't going there for love nor money. Ain't got that kind of guts. I am really on your side, I believe your story completely, but you have some information missing or incorrect. God forbid that you should accept that possibility.

"I am only posting in my defense, so lies cannot obscure the truths. He did NOT even bother to read the posts I made about the thread getting back on target - he has only one purpose in life." ~ Jo Weber QUADE: I am making a formal complaint here. I explained my GOAL to you. Bop her on the head. I DO NOT LIE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!! I can handle it, but we need a little straightening out here. That is not my goal. I did stir a nest known to bee inhabited, but that is no cause for the Ninja attacks.

"You did NOT know a Tommy Gunn until 3 months after I told you about Tommy GUNN." I may not have told you about Gunn until that, but why would I? Mac and I talked about the fact that he was going to use that name in the summer of 1968. "I'm going to be infamous!!" "I like the name 'Peter Gunn', but not the 'Peter.' I like 'Tommy Gunn' and that is the name I'm going to use." Until he found out that there were a lot of Tommy Gunns and the most famous was a porno star! Just because you didn't hear 'Tommy Gunn' out of my mouth does not mean you invented it. God! You are difficult, woman! Assume for one moment that you are not the sole authority on this subject and that all truth does not emminate from your notebook. There are DOZENS of people who could, but will not confirm what I say, particularly his star friends. You are totally right on THAT count. Read Nuttall. He puts McCoy in the mix, too. HE'S RIGHT!!

“A closed mind is like a closed book; just a block of wood." The whole McCoy subject just lights you on fire, doesn't it? You have the quote from Mac. Not anybody else. You see RED and loose all control of your facts when we discuss Mac. I knew Mac a heck of a lot better than Duane. He got both Duane me into this whole mess. I know you want to protect these guys and make it only Duane, but Duane was a tool, not a master criminal. He WAS DB COOPER and I watched him train for this MOCK crime that the court system determined really WAS a crime. Not going to try to convince you, your mind is locked shut. It's like the last conversation with Calime and the stew, yelling through closed doors! No compromise. Truth is the truth no matter how you try to alter it. Mac was THE facilitator for Project Norjak. You don't have to believe it. Don't. Whatever makes you happy.

"First there was one and now there are two. Find my wife and you will find me. Perhaps none of you know what this means - except that someone has been looking in the wrong place." -Jo Weber. Yes, Jo, I know what this means. McCoy was not killed by the FBI, just assigned a series of new identities, and he stayed with ...his wife. Want McCoy, find his wife. One is dead, one lives. I found him. I spoke with him. Let him rest. Identities were Tommy Gunn, David Polaczek (George Peppard fame), R McCoy, and finally Richard McCoy. His best friend was Laurence Tureaud (Mr. T). He bounced around the stars as a bodyguard for Reynolds, Stalone, and Peppard. He was runner-up in Mr. T's Bouncer Contest. Watch T's show with Mac vaulting over the railing and I'll show you the same stunt, same man (Richard Floyd McCoy, Jr.) in a porno flick with mutual acquaintance Mike Barton! Mac sent it to me. He was an extra in a number of movies including 'Rocky V.' He even claimed title to a couple other porno flicks. I have his frames saved. Stalone dedicated Rocky V to McCoy, his bodyguard, a "real American Hero," on the Tonight Show. “A closed mind is like a closed book; just a block of wood."

"And Mickey Mouse was not flying one of the F106's to make sure Cooper escaped!" No, but they were sent out because they KNEW that is what F106's would LOOK like trying to follow a 727 with flaps and gear down!! Mickey Mouse and Mighty Mouse Twins. The jets couldn't fly slow enough and the helicopter couldn't fly fast enough. Known criteria. Pilots know this stuff. This was a Project by pilots, for pilots, run by pilots, executed by pilots and covered up by pilots. Duane was a tool. I was a keeper of information for McCoy. Play the theme song... slow fade to snow.

"Please explain how Cooper used a chest mount reserve for his jump." I do not know of which you speak. I can not assume that the information you are reciting was given to you accurately. I can assure you that what I posted is what his directions were. If it sounds impossible, it was probably intended to make you think that way. However he did it, it was prearranged that he use the dummy chute as a primary. You tell me how it was done. I don't know an MSNBC tickle about that stuff. What I DO know is what Duane's instructions were, and that he DID follow them. He ABSOLUTELY did jump with the chute with the "X" mark on the outside and cut off the string stitching. THAT was the chute he pulled. THINK IN REVERSE!! If it doesn't make sense, THAT is what the plan probably was!! The whole Project operates on that principle. The bad guys were good guys. Night was like day with radio vectoring. The bad chute was the good chute... On and on. I do not believe the temperatures quoted. I seem to remember 60° F and light precipitation. Don't know why. I seem to remember something about using it in back and having to reach for something. That make any sense? Front in back?? Reverse again!! Old guy dressed like a young guy?? Chain smoker and heavy drinker?? This was not a hyjacking project, it was an ANTI-hyjacking project. Everything is backwards, in reverse, not what it seems. Read George C. Nuttall. California Highway Patrol Captain, retired.

"I'm too lazy to read pages of this thread so I don't know if you got an answer about a twill canopy." The parachutes they were practicing with were all-white silk, military, which the trainer claimed were the over-all best chutes. He did not want to use a sport chute as he didn't think they were as safe for a beginner. He did not use the practice chute for the actual jump. That was a personal chute of the trainer and put in storage for Weber and it had an "X" on it. It was sewn shut so Duane could recognize if anyone had tampered with it. He was to cut the string and use the one with the X. By the way, my screen name here, Caretaker Al, is my FBI Project Norjack code name if you FBI guys want reference. That is why I use it. Verify THAT! Those are the FACTS, and THAT is what he did. Count 10 and pull. Anybody that knows the real truth knows this.

And the band strikes up an extra loud rendition of "God Bless America," as Jason exits stage right, tail between his legs and screaming police abuse, to lick his wounds and perhaps fight another day. And the stands are filled with singing throngs, hearts swelling with pride, for the dragon slayer, QUADE, who just single-handedly incapacitated the mighty Jason......

Started reading George's new book and I'm finding more and more really accurate information in here. Things like McCoy always using the term "we" like I state in Facebook. Things like the first two notes from Cooper to the flight deck never making it back to Cooper. (I knowow wherey airy they arrrrrre!) The lack of cooperation of certain parties, the proposed questions, etc. This guy is really good. Like everyone including myself, when you start to make a conclusion, it is probably wrong as NOTHING IS AS IT SEEMS! Better off to assume the opposite of the obvious. Think he perished? That is OBVIOUSLY what you are supposed to think. Difficult? That would also be obvious unless you knew about the double thermal underwear, boots, radio vectoring, the true flight path, the "X" chute, the pump station, and JO WEBER'S story in chief. I'm finding more and more priceless tidbits in this superb book. I recommend it as required reading for any REAL inquisitive minds. You clean-up crew guys won't like this one at all!!! Now, nobody has gotten everything right, and George has some significant errors, but not in the information he has collected, just the suppositions he makes from the things he discovered. THAT is where the Mensa part I suggested comes into play. Profile this as a genius planner instead of a common criminal mind. Everything was planned to have you draw the wrong conclusion. Be a contrarian and it becomes clear(er). YAY for George and Harry! Best book yet!!

"this boarders on sexual predator talk and shouldn't be tolerated!" No, Jason, it's an MSNBC tickle. Sure identifies your mindset. Never assume the obvious here, the obvious is going to be incorrect!!

"There was also a Nebraska number but, with the minimun charge so I did not get a connection." My inclination is that the Nebraska number is (was) Denny XXXXXXX, from Bay of Pigs. You may get there, eventually, Jo.

"[Why am I even answering this? Who told this guy how to find us here on DZ rather than leaving him to talk to himself on Facebook?? " Why, it was your alter-ego, Orange! A little voice whispered in my ear that I should put something in your stocking. So I'm letting it run down your leg into your sock. Cheer up! I could start transposing Facebook for you and make you all sick(er). Keep an open mind, closing off an empty cavity can create a pressure differential that could be hazardous. Cheer up! It is all in good educational spirits!

"Unbiasedness is in the eye of the beholder. Anyway you contradict yourself, saying he is credible but lots of far-out stuff you are not ready to buy?" He has the credentials to be qualified to do a thorough investigation. Most of what he says is consistent with what I know to be true. Some of the things he talks about I have no reference to and can not verify. If this man says it, there must be some value to it and it might be a good idea to pursue it further. I would be surprised if some of it is really true, but the man is more credible than any other book I have read, other than Himmelsbach, which I believe is basically factual until you get to his suppositions. That is huey, dooey, and looey, Blast stuff. Only when you add Jo's story does it become the whole story. Jo won't accept the Hoover theory and Nuttall won't accept Jo's theories. Both are half right coupled with Himmelsbach's background information. There is a little truth and a little fiction in most stories because few saw everything from conception until today. It continues today as a never-ending mop-up by the profiting cleaning crew.

"Gut instinct based on everything Ive read including yours to date .... " You are reading this one correctly. If you can get a copy of the entire Last Will and Testament of Kenneth Christensen, with ALL attachments, you will have all the proof you need to completely discredit that book.

"Handle the Subject like just like any other changes - please." My error, you are correct, I will be more observant in the future. Thank you. I just spent 10 minutes scanning George Nuttall's book, ..."Exposed." After this very brief look I find a very unbiased report by a skilled investigator. His final recommendations are RIGHT ON THE MONEY. If you combine the story Jo Weber tells with the information Nuttall has collected you will be as close as you can get to the truth on paper. Unfortunately, there are some redactions in black marker that CAN be figured out, but he really nails the case. Lots of far-out stuff I'm not ready to buy, like mafia and Mexico and such, but, hey, this guy has the experience to be credible. Not some armchair publisher doing damage control. I recommend this book very highly to round out your library with VALUABLE, CREDIBLE information. I score it an 8. I can verify much of what this man has gathered. (I can also point out what he has overlooked or missed.) I do not need to review "Blast". That gets an automatic ZERO based on prior credible discrediting information.

"No fantasy, no made-up stories, no 'because I said it happened' stuff. Real people, real evidence." Supposition, innuendo, alliteration, straw men, and framing could also be justly claimed with just as much credibility. Get serious. The FBI blew you out of the water the first day. If you keep rewriting books as fast as we can poke holes you will go broke before you cover expenses. And I haven't even bought the book yet!! Bought the other one though.... Once you expose the faults of the story, it is hard to sell. Three bad stories in a ROW and, well.....

And kudos to Robert for letting us see his face. It's neat to see the folks who we talk with so frequently on this forum. Several people on this case are paranoid. They hide their whereabouts and can only be contacted through DZ. Some will not speak on the phone without leaving the house. Give you any clues as to the seriousness of the game you are playing in? They walk among us. I'm right up front, but I like my target picture a lot better than my fat face.

1. Favorite line: "Robert Blevins is lying!" Quoting Bernie Geestman. That is impolite. The preferred term is "fabricating." Under certain conditions it could be considered an illegal hoax, punishable by imprisonment. My supposition would be the latter. Read the entire presentation of Christensen's will.

Agreed. Well, it does one thing for me, it makes a list of the "CREW" for damage control. Stick that in into the plot. Agree with you 99.

Al, Why be so mean? You show a surprising lack of knowledge about parachute gear but I don't try to humiliate you, instead I just inform you. Why don't you try a similar approach? This is a skydiving website not a government conspiracy website. If you are going to act superior I suggest that you first obtain an FAA Master Rigger ticket and a USPA PRO rating (I have neither). 377 The response was to Jason Cooper. Not 377. You have been nice. Jason is being his normal troll-self with half-literate comments, several in a row.