BrendaHupp

EVERY professional out there that has stated otherwise is wrong, the quoted bill information does not exist and you are right.....got it By the way, I never said anything about buying a policy from another company.

We deal with several company's (patients insurers) and all of the information has been consistent. Also, if you read any of the business reports you would know that the insurance companies have already positioned themselves and made sure that the bill is crafted so that they still will make millions.

Perhaps you should just read the post. Since I posted the applicable paragraph directly out of the bill I guess that I have been reading it (up to page 5XX so far) which is probably a lot more than some of congress has that are going to vote on it. Your right though, why should I even consider what the eight doctors in the practice, actuary, attorneys and carriers have to say since according to you we contract with them to tell us what we want to hear and not what we need to know. How about if you Bill and I agree on this, we all agree that something needs to be done. The difference is just what that is. How is that for a start?

Play what ever sophomoric word games you chose. The fact is right now I can transfer my existing employer provided policy to an individual policy with no lapse in coverage. This is not allowed upon passage of the existing proposed bill. This is according to our carrier that addressed this issue two days ago to our group. So go tell them that they will provide it, I need a good laugh.

[ I understand that emotions and confusion are running high with this issue so pardon me if I feel this only contributes to the problem. Our health care system is in what I would call a survival mode in that it can't continue on this path and survive. Don't get me wrong, I have great insurance and really don't want it to change but I see both sides of it on a daily basis and have to deal with the patients, insurers, doctors etc. We need to make changes but I stand by my position that what is proposed is just as bad if not worse than what we have. As with almost anything, there are good proposals and bad within the bill and as I have stated before I think that trying to fix everything at once can only lead to further disaster. This is an issue where calm complete understanding by congress needs to occur before passing any proposed bill.

Bill made a blanket statement of fact that the proposed bill "can't take away your current insurance". That is not true and I stated the part of the bill that addressee it and an example of how the current coverage could be taken away. Also, I never addressed what a new employer would or could do; I stated the inability under the bill to continue the coverage under a private policy which I can do now. So the RED HERRING is back to you for trying to twist what was not said.

Then what you think you know is wrong. Directly from the bill " Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first effective date of coverage is on or after the first day" of the year the legislation becomes law." Now according to our actuary, attorneys and carrier this means that we no longer will be able to leave this employment and pick up an individual policy to continue the coverage. So yes, this bill will take away the right that I have now to continue my current insurance if I leave here.

You don’t know that! How much do you want to bet that there will be people that lose their currant coverage? We have already been informed by both our actuary and carrier that our plan will change if the present proposed bill is passed. NO ONE can honesty tell you that in the end that they can guarantee that your insurance will be available.

Sorry, I just kind of figured that would follow the impeachment.

I think at this point there is too much damage to recover and he will just become less effective as governor. Resigning would allow the state to recover and move forward.

What his reasons for yelling were are subjective, what the congressman said is not. I see you didn't quote where I said that any of the protest (AKA yelling) in meetings was wrong. I guess that is because it does not support your democrat bashing theory. Keep avoiding the question Bill. YOU are the one throwing out the democrat/republican cards.

Try this, YOU ARE WRONG !. I guess you missed the part where I said “I don't think that the father need to yell”. And let me be very clear here, I don’t think ANY of the protest conducted IN the meetings are appropriate. They are fine outside but the meetings should be for listening to what is said and asking questions. Now, are YOU clear on that? You really need to get over this need to draw lines in the sand and place people on one side or the other just because something doesn't fit or is opposed to YOUR view. My question remains unanswered.

You are breaking nothing so far to me. But hey, knock yourself out with all the wisdom you think you have about people you know nothing about. I will tell you this though; I am a nurse and the business manager for an eight physician practice so please take your best shot at educating me on health care, cost, administration, billing and accountability. I only go to about three meetings a week on this not including seminars, continuing education and symposiums. I absolutely agree and we do need reform but the bill in its present form is not the answer. Congress is moving way to fast and making too many mistakes. They need to slow down. Maybe rather than trying to fix everything at once and making it worse they should take a modular approach by prioritizing and implement a section at a time, work out the issues and then go to the next section. Yeah, our ability to compete has nothing to do with labor cost, government regulations, liability etc. You might want to give that one a second thought. How do you come up with that? 82% of the population has insurance and 76% of those are happy with it. How is that a disaster? Now, do we need to make changes to control rising cost and a mechanism to provide at least basic health care to those who don't have it? Sure we do, but that does not make what we have a disaster.

Are you really that naive? No matter which side prevails, huge contracts will be won by corporations that will make millions. You might think about reading the Aug. 6, 2009 BusinessWeek cover story.......hint, the headline reads "The Health Insurers Have Already Won, How UnitedHealth and rival carriers, maneuvering behind the scenes in Washington, shaped health-care reform for their own benefit "

And the same can be said for the other side that will make hundreds of millions if it does go through. I can tell you this though, any bill that has one group 100% for it and another group 100% against it is probably a bad bill. I guess that one, you did not read my previous response, two, you somehow think he has anything to do with what the congressman said and three, that I waste my time watching him. Other than a link to youtube that my sister sent that I asked a question on another thread, you would be mistaken to think that your reference bears any truth.