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Thank you; and to you, my friend !

From Wisconsin...we would like to wish you all a Happy Holiday Season & the Best of New Year's in 2011... with Safe Travels, Journeys & Jumps ! ~ Blessings n' BlueSkies ~ Skygypsie & AV8OR7

They should have to build the fence as part of the sentence for the illegal border crossing.

The word "Father" is shorter. i'm a father , but not a priest , certainly not a catholic priest , i'm reminded of a joke, i could be imposed upon to share ! please...do tell

---------------------------------------------------------- giving it the benefit of doubt...I might have over reacted, & perhaps I was wrong...sorry And-Man I'm curious as to why do so many threads require 'homework'... Logic, knowledge, history lessons, life experiences, 1st hand info., current events, courtesy, respect, not enough stimulation for some folks ? I find them interesting & entertaining & up for debate; for the most part, but some just try too hard to be rude & irritating...I'm just saying

By any chance did he have a Manlicher-Carcano? Hey genius...check your spelling before you confirm the arrogant fool you are... don't you mean Mannlicher-Carcano ? Aren't you the one who bitches when someone goes 'off thread' context ? I've noticed somethings about you. You seem to get aroused out of slamming chicks, or those who acknowledge they're new to the 'forums' gig, but as soon as anyone who raises confrontation with you / you're posts...you bumble up ! Reminds me of the bullied kid growing up, couldn't get a date, could only make water boy for the football team...grows up & decides to show everyone & puts on a cop uniform ! You probably figured you looked best in a suit & tie ( don't get me wrong, I have total respect for most cops & some attorneys, just not the ones who abuse it to their advantage ) Why is it you give no personal info., nor can receive messages per your profile, & as an attorney... you seem to have an excessive amount of free time ?!? Perhaps business isn't so good...or you looking for business ! Either way, I find you to be a total asshole...ASSHOLE ...as far as my Dad...he was a Kennedy man, though he did have CIA clearance til '85

Worst...in which way ? Self Agendas Special Interest Agendas Greed Immoral Unscrupulous Criminal Incompetent Power Mongar Control Foreign Policies Domestic Diplomacy Troops Pulled Out Troops Not Pulled Out Militaristic Shady Amateur Crooked Ignorant Loyal to his People Loyal to His Cause Worst Dressed Worst Speaker Worst Accent Worst Liar Worst Poise Worst Smirk Worst Allegience Worst Alliances Worst Appointees Worst Cabinet Aggression Degression Depression Recession Homeland Sanctity Homeland Security Worst End to His Presidency Worst Start to His Presidency...??? ...you're gonna need new software ! That's like asking whose the Best...my answer would be" haven't had one, yet !" and I remember: " I LIKE IKE " buttons, and I was in 1st grade homeroom with Mrs. Obenberger, when Kennedy's assassination came over the loud speaker & my Dad left for deer hunting that day !

Attorneys are known to lean towards the mentality of what would send work their way...lawsuits

So, do we enforce existing immigration laws until we can come up with a real, workable solution or do we just ignore the issue until it goes away? Enforcing existing laws would, in fact, go a long way toward fixing the issue. If illegals knew they wouldn't be able to make a living here, they'd have very little incentive to come. Businesses that hire illegals should be fined heavily. Businesses that contract out labor to other businesses who knowingly hire illegals (for instance WalMart), also share the blame and should also be fined. It's the way business works in the US that has caused the problem. agreed...in a nutshell

So, do we enforce existing immigration laws until we can come up with a real, workable solution or do we just ignore the issue until it goes away? Enforcing existing laws would, in fact, go a long way toward fixing the issue. If illegals knew they wouldn't be able to make a living here, they'd have very little incentive to come. Businesses that hire illegals should be fined heavily. Businesses that contract out labor to other businesses who knowingly hire illegals (for instance WalMart), also share the blame and should also be fined. It's the way business works in the US that has caused the problem. agreed...in a nutshell

------------------------------------------------------------ Just curious...What staff ? If you're saying you manage or are a DZO...name that DZ ! Is that relevant to the thread? Or is it just the two of you bitch-slapping each other again? I swear, the two of you deserve each other. [ Andy 908] If an RE is made & specific or nonspecifics are contained within, how is it not relevant to request specification ? Threads twist & turn throughout, you should know that ! You just seem to take special note ...maybe you should be the one 'bitch slapped' If I said he was - Would I be in trouble? ------------------------------------------------------- not with me...but I suppose that depends on if he 'objects' Which begs the question - If someone gets bitch-slapped, who is the bitch? The slapper or the "Slappie"? --------------------------------------------------------- Aren't we going to get in trouble for going off thread ? Slappie -v- slapper ....hmmm I'd say a bitch slap is an open hand 'there take that, now leave me alone' making it an either/ or !

------------------------------------------------------------ Just curious...What staff ? If you're saying you manage or are a DZO...name that DZ ! Is that relevant to the thread? Or is it just the two of you bitch-slapping each other again? I swear, the two of you deserve each other. [ Andy 908] If an RE is made & specific or nonspecifics are contained within, how is it not relevant to request specification ? Threads twist & turn throughout, you should know that ! You just seem to take special note ...maybe you should be the one 'bitch slapped' If I said he was - Would I be in trouble? ------------------------------------------------------- not with me...but I suppose that depends on if he 'objects'

------------------------------------------------------------ Just curious...What staff ? If you're saying you manage or are a DZO...name that DZ ! Is that relevant to the thread? Or is it just the two of you bitch-slapping each other again? I swear, the two of you deserve each other. [ Andy 908] If an RE is made & specific or nonspecifics are contained within, how is it not relevant to request specification ? Threads twist & turn throughout, you should know that ! You just seem to take special note ...maybe you should be the one 'bitch slapped'

------------------------------------------------------------ Just curious...What staff ? If you're saying you manage or are a DZO...name that DZ ! Is that relevant to the thread? Or is it just the two of you bitch-slapping each other again? I swear, the two of you deserve each other.

------------------------------------------------------------ Just curious...What staff ? If you're saying you manage or are a DZO...name that DZ !

You're going to find, on here, a lot of conservative people, and a lot of liberal people. Occasionally the moderates try get an edge in wordwise, too. As a matter of basic human nature, each side has a lot of trouble fathoming the mentality of the other side. Anyhow, singling out one particular regular poster for a special all-purpose scolding probably misses the point. To Flyerer: ...then you'll get people like this, who wear many hats...self proclaimed grammar cop, critic, philospher, pyschoanalyst, literary genius & pipes in to critque one's "missing the point" ! So Andman 908 & your staying on thread is not missing the point...or just out scouting ?

So what are you saying: " come on in"...let the illegals continue to cross the borders, even if by forced entry ? How many have YOU; personally, invited to put up in your home, offered 3 squares to, given them your ATM card for access to your savings, stepped down from your job so they can have it, "redecorated your house" so they could send for their families, turned the other cheek or didn't bat an eye when what you've worked hard for has been destroyed, taken, or quit claimed to a stranger, while you're taking a foreign language course, so you can be a hospitable host ? So might you be suggesting that the Statute of Limitations is up for the early settlers theives and squaters ----------------------------------------------------------- It was a direct question ? Statute of Limitations ??? What thieving, settlers, squatters are you referring to ? Columbus' discovery/ settling, Ponce de Leon in FL, Cortez, yadayada ? Before you go "they stole the land from us injuns...they were here, 1st"... I'm a Cherokee, Black Foot, Anglo-Saxon, mut ! The Irish, Asian, Quakers, African Americans; just amongst of few of the ancestral migrators who were persecuted- prosecuted for settling here ? The Revolutionary War settlers..." the British are coming" ? Those who settled & fought in the Spanish American War ? The Civil War ? The imprisoned Germans & Japanese war camp 'settlers' during WWI, WWII ? They ALL...We All, paid our dues ! Pay your frickin dues before you seek, stalk, demand, take or 'force' ENTITLEMENT ! What...we built it...and now they will come ? BTW: in a prior thread, I was educated: Evidently, the Native Americans were not the 1st here, African Americans were...they were immigrated by the Brit's...as slaves !

So what are you saying: " come on in"...let the illegals continue to cross the borders, even if by forced entry ? How many have YOU; personally, invited to put up in your home, offered 3 squares to, given them your ATM card for access to your savings, stepped down from your job so they can have it, "redecorated your house" so they could send for their families, turned the other cheek or didn't bat an eye when what you've worked hard for has been destroyed, taken, or quit claimed to a stranger, while you're taking a foreign language course, so you can be a hospitable host ? So might you be suggesting that the Statute of Limitations is up for the early settlers theives and squaters --------------------------------------------------------- It was a DIRECT question ! Now this I'll "suggest" to your RE in the way of an indirect question: Statue of Limitations ??? What thieving early settlers/ squatters are you referring to ? Columbus discovery/ settling ...Ponce de Leon, Cortez,yadayada ? ( and before you bring up "stealing the land from us injun's they were here 1st " ...I'm a Cherokee, Black Foot & Anglo Saxon mut ) The price of persecution, prosecution of the Asians, Quakers, Irish, African Americans & every ancestral migration to this land, the war camps of the migrated Germans & Japanese during WWI & WWII ? The Revolutionary War..." the British are coming ? The Spanish-American War ? The Civil War ? These and WE have all Paid our Dues in establishing this Country. What...build it & they will come ? Ya pay your frickin dues before you are ENTITLED to seek, have or take ! BTW: I was educated in a prior thread: Native Americans were not here 1st...African American's were immigrated here from the Brit's...as slaves !

So what are you saying: " come on in"...let the illegals continue to cross the borders, even if by forced entry ? How many have YOU; personally, invited to put up in your home, offered 3 squares to, given them your ATM card for access to your savings, stepped down from your job so they can have it, "redecorated your house" so they could send for their families, turned the other cheek or didn't bat an eye when what you've worked hard for has been destroyed, taken, or quit claimed to a stranger, while you're taking a foreign language course, so you can be a hospitable host ?

Good rule of thumb. When in a discussion about illegal immigration with someone who refuses to use the word illegal-laugh and leave-they're hopeless. ---------------------------------------------------------- ..."copy that".... ditto....agreed...ca va !

That's a fact that FOX News et al don't want you to find out about, because then people would be less afraid - and people who are less afraid are harder to control ----------------------------------------------------------- That I totally agree with... -------------------------------------------------------- So you have 0 issue with illegals using services such as schools, hospitals, police, EMS, fire, etc. but not paying income taxes used to support said services? I do agree that "kicking 'em out" or "letting them all stay" are both horrid solutions. A complete immigration reform needs to happen that has consistentency. -------------------------------------------------------- ...and this, I'm in total agreement, with ! So, then...how do "we the people" ( i.e. the Government ) see that through ? I'm not well versed on political science...so what is the solution...seriously ?

The conservative approach would be to promote the maintenance of traditional institutions and support minimal and gradual change in society. What has been proposed in Arizona is a radical change; not conservative. Desperate times call for desperate measures... So what exactly is desperate about the situation? Is it that illegal immigration has skyrocketed (because it's actually gone down) or is it that certain political entities in Arizona need a group to hate to rally their troops? That's the only thing desperate about the situation I can see. Everything else has been chugging along its merry way the same as it ever was . . . for centuries. Wow...Are you serious ?

Let's say I break into your house [You wouldn't have a problem with that would you?] ---------------------------------------------------------- Let's just say...I'd say "Good Luck to Ya" I'm NOT a racist, nor do I care what religious nor political stand anyone takes, but this ongoing illegal immigration / entry needs to stop, NOW! Some of the best people I know, come here to work during jump season WITH Visa's. Thank God, they do ! They are a necessity for alot of DZ's to stay Staffed, as needed, but the ongoing & continuing entry by swimming & walking over OUR borders, needs to be stopped... by whatever it takes. KKK offered their assistance in border patrol. Perhaps, their presence may give rise to a 2nd thought in crossing over when faced with a newly built 'white picket fence', lined up with a welcome wagon ! Civil unrest...no doubt ! Let the illegals, smugglers, cartels, protesters & Klan duke it out ! Let's just say I've become an intolerant, 'sick of sharing' extremist, these days.

Could you at least pretend to care about the thread & add something to the topic, when you RE ? How, or where did any violation of Forum Rules ( against you ) go down on this thread ? Crimini...quit being a big cry baby, would ya