skyjack71

BAH HUM BUG - Now I can't even send Bill a CARD thanking him for his help over the YRS - his email address was ALL I had...and he thought I was the one who compromised him. YEA MERRY CHISTMAS - THE WORSE CHRISTMAS OF MY LIFE! AND MY LAST ONE. MY WISHES FOR CHRISTMAS. THAT THOSE WHO LIE AND TRANSGRESS AGAINST THE TRUTHS AND WHO LIE TO PROFIT FOR THEMSELVES FALL INTO A PIT OF FIRE. I AM HURTING AND I AM HURTING BAD AND I HAVE NEVER WISH ANYONE ILL WILL UNTIL TONIGHT! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The condition I put VICKY incontact with Mitchell WAS not information to be provided to Bruce. Vicky violated the rule I set forth - and the information was NOT intended for Bruce to have. SHE KNEW THIS. Mitchell never got to approve the article and Bruce admitted to that. Had I know she would give the information to BRUCE - she would never have recieved the informationn and I would never have contacted Mitchell on her behalf. SHE OWE me an apology - not the other way around. THERE was NO excuse in her allowing Bruce any contact with Mitchell at all. JUST the fact that MITCHELL was not given the opportunity to sign off on the article is bad enough...SHE owes me an apology! SHE should have had more sense than to give BRUCE any hint or provide any connections to Bill. NOTE: Michell and I go a long long way back. I trusted the young lady NOT to share with Bruce - but I should have known better. Bruce takes DIRTY shots at me every chance he gets....true or not true - he doesn't give a rats ass. I made it clear with VICKY no sharing of info. What I provided was for her benefit only - not for public knowledge....she went thru the back door to provide him the information - but that was STILL a violation of his privacy...Bill had NO knowledge of BRUCE's tactics. I had not informed him of the transgression Bruce made agains other witnesses nor the harassment he caused them. I thought I could TRUST VICKY - but I have learned TRUST NO ONE. Because of this transgression I now have NO contact with Bill. End of MARCH - I won't be around and all I ever read was the recent posting - I cannot navigate that thread to go back in time...just dumb ole me. I have not attempted to write on that thread - just keep abreast of some of the things they say and do...only read the new posting and the categories I do not know how to find. GIVE BRUCE's MOTHER a CALL - aske her what she told me yrs ago about him? My only interest in that thread is what HOMID and 99 and one other writes. Vickie is NOT part of that. Bruce manueverd Vickie and she fell for it. He is sneaky like that. Yea, tell him to read my paper - well, that was ALL Bruce needed....SHE just as well have handed Bill to Bruce on a platter. Yes, VICKIE did do the WRONG thing. Maybe she learned the hard way, but it keeps me from reading what I need to read - is that WHAT VICKIE WANTS! SHe has to recognize SHE screwed up and Bruce manuevered her. Bruce USED Vicky and I hope she REALIZES that. I provided her with private and coveted information. DOES she know or even CARE what Bruce did to Tina's family? I thought she was DIFFERENT and REAL not like some of the others. All I wanted to do was help her and the thank I got was a kick in the ASS. I am the one who is owed an apology....YOU are the one who made the March NO READ - well by then it won't mean a rats ass. I hope she is very PLEASED with the pain she has caused me....all because I did what I thought was the RIGHT THING. I looked at it as though she was my own daughter - but my own daughter would never have given BRUCE a clue to anything. I didn't have any address but his old Boeing address and that phone number...but I had his email address....now if I should get anything new - I have NO way of sending it to him...there is only one way for anyone to make this up to me is to provide me with the neans to send him new stuff if I get any...and to explain that I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BRUCE FINDING HIS LOCATION AND HIS EMAIL ADDRESS AND THAT I KEPT MY PROMISE TO HIM - ONE I MADE 15 YRS AGO. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Bruce was well aware I had several communications including written material from Cossey over they yrs - and most of it before I ever came to this thread. Cossey was a brisk guy and a guy of few words but he was more than kind to me. Bruce thought he should have received the same treatment. I always knew to keep my questions with Cossey BRIEF. On rare occassion he was talkative as LONG as I did NOT dwell on the hardware - that was when he sent me a lot of pictures and I wrote him a nice thank you for that gesture. Cossey was always on the go & usually rushed...& most of our coversations where while he was ON the road from his cell. When Cossey was ready to end the conversation it he did....but, Bruce probably persisted & Cossey did NOT like face to face confrontations or intrusions in his space. Cossey had already refused to talk to Bruce and Bruce shows up on his door. The rest one would have to leave to their imagination except for myself. I had to literally put my hand out Palm toward Bruce and state "I told you before nad THIS conversation was NOT going there and anymore of that and this interview is OVER!" I had to do that very loudly and with my hand in his face. Had I known at that time what I now know about Bruce that interview would NEVER have happened. The deplorable item he wrote about that interview was mostly lies....with way too many liberaties. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

"1. When Cossey hung up on me, I had just asked him why he had sent his parachutes to Boeing Field and not Sea-Tac. I can't state for a fact WHY Coss hung up, but it may have been because he didn't want to answer such a probing question. 2. When I showed up unannounced at his house, he was already dead. I didn't think it would be a problem. Again, I was acting as a journalist." In a prior post way back before this he was raging about Cossey. NO ONE pisses Bruce off without his making retorting remarks & out & out lies about the person. It is Bruce's way or no way at all. If he doesn't like the person & they do not bow to his reqest - he rages. A little bird told me yrs ago that Bruce does NOT handle NO very well. MY SEARCH ABILITIES ARE NOT GOOD, BUT SOME OF YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND FIND THE OTHER ANGRY DEROGATOR REMARKS HE MADE ABOUT OTHER ATTEMPTS TO INTEVIEW INDIVIDUALS. Bruce does NOT like being told NO or being refused an interview...he retaliates with vile & repussive remarks. He has done this with Tina, her family and with me. When they will not talk to him - he makes things up about them. NOTE Bruces' Wording "when I showed up on his door he was dead". That was written in present tense - so it is fair to deduct Bruce was there before and NOT after Cosses' death was annnounce. Remember he is a maticulous writer? This was his quilt showing. When Cossey was already dead and Bruce went down there - of course he was not at his DOOR the damn area was roped off. Bruce incriminated himself. He was mad at Cossey and Bruch has a temper - and it is not just on paper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have not felt like going to the grocery store - so Christmas Dinner will be a frozen TV dinner. Having a problem walking the last 2 days - can't seem to keep my balance and I am sleeping a lot. Not taking any medications - so that is not the reason. I think I am just very tired & all of this has emotionally destroyed me & my will to keep up the battle. The Dr.s have no explanation for the blood tests, the lighting flashes, the fatique and the erosion on my thumb. I have not seen the last blood tests. One suggested Entercoli, but the hand Dr can't see me until mid Jan. I went to the ER & they handed me a splint and sling which I threw back at them - but they charged medicare over 800 dolllars. I was in there with a huge lesion on my right thumb. The specialist kept sending the info to the hand Dr. but it seems he never got the information...and with Xmas here he is not available. I think I need antibiotics for the lesion on the hand - keeping oral antibiotics on it and a band aid, but it gets huge and I LANCE it all by myself...with my left hand & a sharp pair of curved cuticle scissors. That used to let the fluid out but now all it does is BLEED. The cuticle scissor I had broke (they were part of an old biological dissection kit - like they use in surgeries). This new real cuticle scissor is useless. I even tried to corterize it with by getting the end of another insturment RED HOT...didn't help - hurt like hell, but they do not call me TOUGH COOKIE for no reason at all. AT any rate my temp is normal and no evidence of infections...just do not feel right - can't keep my balance & I am so tired. Going to take a soak in the jetted tub and take 1/2 my nightime pill along with the prednisone and go to bed....It is pouring CATS & DOGS here and this is expected to last all night and most of tomorrow. Christmas dinner with be a frozen meal....did make a pot of chllie today - but ate almost all of it by myself along with all of those Cookies my daughter sent. Guess I had too MUCH Sugar! Another CHristmas alone - GOD, how Duane loved CHRISTMAS! He always went over board - joke gifts and then always one very special gift - his taste in gifts - well, they were the best....I sure do miss him. My last husband was a good man, but NO one ever held a candle to Duane Lorin Weber. Good Night! I miss him. How could a man like this be all the things they portray him as being I will never know. I wish he was here to sing that song - he always gave me a bottle of Tia Maria every Christmas - he knew it would last me all yr. Despite all the things I have learned about him - he was my true soul mate...he may have been a bad man - in the past, but he was a good husband and a good father during the 18 yrs I was with him. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Robert: Bruce has only one GOAL - to make himself feel important. He does not care who he steps on or hurts in the process....I really tried to help him in the beginning until I found out what a vulture he really was! Jo hasn't let Florida since she made her trip in 2010 nor will her health permit such a trip unassisted. Why are you so interested in my legal name? I am who I say I am regardless of what name I use under any circumstance. It is a matter of safety and to protect myself from Identity theft. I have old windows XP and dial-up and that limits my search abilities and the BIG library is too far away for me to drive to and the parking impossible. I do not demand others do the research - I ask and explain my situation. MY only reason for being here is multiple - I started the thread yrs ago looking for information regarding Duane's past....because at that time there was a lot of OLD jumper still around. I was why this thread was put in History & Trivia even though others in the DZ objected! Some still do and eventually this thread will close. If this thread was in the "other" category nothing would have been learned & the conversations we have had would never have happened. This thread is in History and Trivia - because of Quade and myself. You can believe what you want - but Duane told me he was DAN COOPER even thought I had NO idea who that was! It was this thread and the knowledge of the skyjumpers on this site that have contributed the information I was after...to learn about how Cooper could have done the jump & to see if anyone recognized the photo. 2 individuals who are no longer alive did come forward and those communications were handled by private email...I never knew their real names. The FBI never addressed that infomation. I know more FACT than you ROBT will ever know...funny why you would make derogator remarks and you have NOT even seen the things Duane left behind nor do you have an explanation for these items...nor are you able to explain various things in the life of Weber that defy - his criminal records... You ROBT have not walked in my shoes since 1997 (I do not wear high heels if you feel like making a joke). I have done what I could living on the other side of the country & with limited income to find the truths. If I had the money in 1997 to have been able to have gone out there & have spent several months - the things I did find after all of these yrs may have produced some clues & results... Now after all of these yrs and the changes - I gave up hope. But, I have never stopped trying to find the truths & I do still find little things - things that just do NOT make sense, but things NO ONE wants to investigate...such as AWARE & CAT - the new FBI will not even touch these things - so it takes finding old historians. The old maps & property records. So much of the history was erased to make room for commuters & technology. WHY do you think I keep BUGGING & pleading with some one to check the names of the property owners of Topper DR, Lieser Point, and Image Lane (all 3 locations on the River). They are all in Clark County I need to know the owners of the properties from 1943 to 1980. This information is of the utmost of importance....but, NOT one sole will do it for me...the county can only do it if I come out there and then access to the old files is limited and some of it destroyed. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

THE authorities have what I have on BRUCe and it is true. Did he kill Cossey I don't know. but he would have been cocky with him just likehe was with Tina & Cossey would not have taken that . Cossey was a spit fire and if Bruce showed up on his door acting like he does with other - Cossey woudl have taken a swing at him. He is old and he probably fell - but Bruce got scared and ran - that is my theory...he had no money - he had to borrow it....but then for several days he is on site d - where did that money come from not to mention the transportatin..he can't even feed himself. I had conversations from him whem he didn't know where his next meal was coming from. I even asked him how he was able to afford to be there day after day. Take it from there! He has never written one decent word about me! How would you feel. It is all about HOW important he can make himself feel. He does not care who he steps on or hurts in the process....I really tried to help him in the beginning until I found out what a vulture he really was. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

You haven't see the email written to me by Mitchell! All of my sent and saved email were raided -emptied. But I have the hard copies - glad to make copyies. The concition I put her incontact with Mitchell WAS not information to Bruce. There for the rule was violated. Mitchel had a few drinks - Bruce was supposed to send him a proof - Mitchel never got a proof and BRUCE wrote his usual derogator dilaloge about me. Mitchell never got to approve that or it would have been stricken. He knew what I went thru to protect TINA from Bruce....He was aware or shoud have been regarding Tina... Michell and I go a long long way back. I trusted the young lady NOT to share with Bruce - but I should have known better. Bruce takes any shot as at me he can get...true or not true - he doesn't give a rats ass. I made it clear with that young lady no sharing with Bruce and she knew very well what I thought of him. End of subject - I won't be around in MARCH so screw the whole thing. I do NOT need BRUCES's approval for any thing - have you read the crap that creep has written about me? Well, how would you feel if it was your mother. In fact MAYBE I should reveal the conversatiion I had with Bruces mother yrs ago...how would he feel about that? I just want to read whet Homid and the others write about the money and the flight - BRUCE is not even part of that. Vickie is NOT part of that. When they write the truth that is okay,,,but out and out lies that I do not handle....Bruce manueverd Vickie and she fell for it. Learn never to believe all that Bruce writes or the thruths will never be known. I definitiely would not have addressed it there but I did to you. Yea, I rightfully got pissed at that young lady the way it came across in the thread. YOu or Bennet later eplained it...but BRUCES statement was WRONG and He did that WITHOUT the approval of Bill...and it cost me the only contact I had with the crew. Remember what he did with Tina and her family - and you expected him to be trueful with the other things - well it didn't happen. I am the one owed an apology....they woudl never have found Bill had it not been for me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Do you mind quoting that please. I don't like liars either. You do pretty good job with that other thread, but Bruce is OUT of hand in this thread. If I cannot read the other thread - perhaps Bruce needs to be permanently bannished from this thread....Does BRUCE control the other thread? He comes here to spread his garbage and obscene remarks about others such as myself and Blevins. I do not know what brought about my being banished from reading, but will read back and see what it was other than my continued disgust with Bruce. He is all about DIRT & any derogatory thing he can state about anyone. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have never wanted to post on that other site: Just to read what some of the people were stating - individuals like Homid & certain others with the intellect knowledge to bring some closure to this saga. I was READ only and now this is the message I get: "DB COOPER An Error Has Occurred! Sorry Skyjack71, you are banned from using this forum! Pending a talk with Bruce Smith. This ban is set to expire March 21, 2015, 12:36:38 AM." All I did was read! If their stuff is so secret they do NOT want anyone reading it & BRUCE is in control then the TRUTH will never be known. Will be a COLD DAY in HELL to find me in the same room with Bruce. I believe Bruce had something to do with the murder of COSSEY & his past is very convoluted. His pre-Cooper involvement & actions are nothing to be proud of.... If we think the things he did to Tina & her family are bad - his past doesn't hold a candle to the things I know about him. I did not post to that other thread - my only interest was READing what individuals like Homid wrote and to see if they were actually making any head way. The technical stuff was pretty much over my head...but interesting to read. I am banned from reading now becase I stood up to BRUCE in this site. Bruce should be bannished from the DZ....and not allow to read what is said here. Yet, he continues to POST & read...and makes inflammatory remarks about others...in this thread. My problem with the other site was GALEN & the grief his lies created for me. I had to see an attorney & do a lot of unnecessary things to disprove the allegations made about me. Allegations NOT one of you on this thread would want your parent to endure - plus I had to provide my entire medical history - something that was humiliating for me. Galen was corrected for his accusations & I provided the proof the allegations where fabricated...but it put me thru 3 very difficult months. Homid & others could not post in this forum because they needed specific categories to be able to focus on the flight path & the mechanics in categories without going off topic or with other interuptions. BUT, the other thread went a little to far - & Shutter made sure it was corrected - deleted & the problem remedied. Damn good management on his part. No longer are they allowed to make inflammable demeaning posts about others. Things that created serious problems for the individuals. The DZ continues to allow Bruce to make flagrant accusations about others & to bash them & to demean them... no one monitors him here. Perhaps it is time Bruce was NOT allowed to read what is said in this thread or to post. He seems to think he can continue to bash & demean others with no recourse. He suddenly thinks he is king & that he rules in the DZ & the Cooper story. He thinks he can control & lie with no recourse...yet, I cannot read the flight & evidence sites on the other thread - things he does not give diddle squat about. He only wants the sensationalism - he thinks that sells books. Smut and dirt. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Bruce you cannot use anything I state in this thread - if you do you are infringing on my copywrite.... Seems like you use thing in twisted ways and you may be writing from behind prison walls very soon....for something beside your infringments. MY story is my story and not something for you to TWIST or distort. YOU can NEVER use anything about me without my written permission in a book...and I have never gave you permission to do so.... YOU conceptions are warped! MY copy rights are legal - check with my attorney in Atlanta, Georgia. You write one word about me I do not approve you go to court and to jail if it is slanderous and not approved my my attorney. You showed up on Cossey's door and he was already dead....duh! That does NOT make much sense. Seems like you are putting yourself on his doorstep before he died. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I had to capture that post. So you did show up at his house unannounce...go back and read that! YOU screwed up. YOU showed up at his house UNANNOUNCED - before anyone knew he was dead. duhh - i KNEW WHERE WERE STUPID! I knew from the prior postings that you were going to POP IN on Cossey & COSSEY was not happy about that! I knew what Cossey's reaction would have been...and I know what a bully you are....If Cossey asked you to leave and you persisted he was a spark plug and he would have taken a swing at you. It was an accident but you ran because you knew you would be blamed. That makes you an accessor to his death....did you check to see if he was just knocked out or did you check to see if he had a plus? Copied and pasted this REAL quick so you can't go back and change it! YOU FINALLY SCREWED yourself! NOW the athorities will get a COPY of that post! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

No one was interested in the part of the plane window you had. Sluggo tried to throw away the fragment of the cord in the knife, but I retrived it with tweezers and put it back in the knife. The Mouse - no one believes how you acquired the Mouse or its significance. No one wants to believe 'others' where involved. Jack (Jacqium) is deceased. He tried to contact me in 2001, but I didn't know his real name - now I do. He tried to tell his story to another person to obtain immunitiy for himself, but NO on heard him & the state refused. Georger who is actually Jerry Warren is so obcessed with protecting himself and Kissy Kissy he will never relent...that man is a bastard! Kissy Kissy sent you guys to protect Kennedy, but he knew if you went armed you would get blamed. but he had hoped it would stop what they had planned. Not sure where this other guy comes in but he keeps claiming there was NO house...but I saw the house with you and with Mr. H. The FAZIO's verified it. Tosaw died without revealing what he told your brother...he knew where you learned to jump for about 6wks. Your brother in-law is deceased and knew the truth...as he and Tosaw shared your past. Sis is gone and she tried to tell me how to find the truth....because your mother's god child married Gilliam. Gilliam is also deceased and so is his wife..who was your mom's God child so no help there & the family is keeping their mouth shut...until I am gone and maybe forever. Mrs Geestman is afraid and to old to come forward - so she just went poof - do you blame her? Especially after what that writer did. Tommy just went POOF, but he threatened me before he did. Your friend Ed died the yr before you did. The 20 you left I didn't understand what it meant. I didn't find the wallet - the guy who bought the car denied there was anything in it - and didn't bring it to me until 2 wks later. Several yrs later he offered to sell the car back to me and he was unaware that the randsom was in 20's so he claimed. He hung up on me when I told him the ransom was in 20's No one believes me about that darn CB other than the guy who worked on it & then he died. You had that other piece inside of the glove box and told me never ever to touch it. I probably ditched it after you died or you sold it when you sold the system in the van. Mary Jane died....she told me lots of things - but who believes an alcholic. Her daughter told me you were Cooper and she knew it - but she OD'ed shortly after that. She kept some of your things and took them to Eugene with her but they got lost when she moved back....she OD'd shortly after that...She told me she gave you the tie clip. The tie clip is as plain as day in the picture, but "they" keep claiming it is a flaw on the pic, but the enlargements show the gold and the same clip they found on a tie on the plane. You step son didn't know, but he felt you were Cooper...but, his instability has hindered him and I do not know if he is alive or not...he was pretty messsed up. He married a really nice woman and they have a wonderful family. You would be very proud of him. You sure gave a lot of people some bad memories. The pictures are all I have & they won't prove anything - just that you knew those damn guys...& you made a trip to the N.W. with them. The pictures you made of the place you guys went - that doesn't mean anything. Your buddy from Air American (Paperlegs) is deceased & he evidently didn't tell his wife about the package you left in 1979. Some of the quys claim there was NO house...but we know there was - if it wasn't a house it was an office made to look like a house....or the FBI took me to the place the money was really found at. Not the place they have publicized. Right now I wish I was well enough to go back but the only was I could do that would be by RV so I could lie down. I was there with Mr. H so I know it did exist & it was the same as when I was there with you in 1971....I guess it could have been a business office that looked like a house but there was a building there & now they say there was never a building there. The place you took me & the place the crew took me was the same place, and now they are claiming there was no building there near the river.. Your friend in WA who worked in the building or with the New Paper tried to contact me - but I didn't know it was him...now I think he has deceased of throat cancer. The other guy who kept the caddies in a ware house - he is gone and if he is alive he will not say one word...I wishe he would contact me if he is still alive. No one would believe the real story any way. That damn Bill will never admit to an;ything and I do not know if he was part of it or just plain old CHicago mafia. I have fought this battle for 20 yrs and I am awfully tired - and I do not have much time left. I gave it 100%, but I haven't got the time or the energy or the money to finish this. That safe deposite box in KS I never could locate that...I know you left some insigificant things in it, but I do not know what. I have been contacted by ever con in the country. Your 2 stepsons have never come froward but I do not know how much they knew...they were stationed in WA at that time. I know you & MJ went out there in 1969 or 1970 and you got stopped supposedly for drinking (all three names were on the record), but that doesn't prove shit. Evidently it was just a stop & the more sober one drove home. I know and have told about all the things you told me and showed me and that doesn't me shit. The tower that was gone up above Heisson and the window you went thru to get some food and socks and to warm up. The owners told me about that in 2010. I told them that Mildred Park was the same Mildred I met in FL & that she had remarried. Her husband was investigated as being Cooper. I know who the woman was in the picture that was in the book. I told them about the woman in Biggs and her nephew who was a jumper - didn't mean shit. Both of them are deceased. I tried to tell them she was related to the guys with the air stip below Ariel, but it didn't mean shit. the Farguers. I told them about the unusual equipment in the car - and that doesn't mean shit. I told them about Bernie & the locator system he designed in the service and how others stole his invention - at least he got something out of it...per what you told me. I tried to tell them about BBR being the one who helped you - but no proof of it. I told them about the guy at the tower who signaled you & got suspened & then got his job back. NO one believes anything. I told them about your connections to AWARE and CAT but that doesnt mean anything to the smart asses who think all of that infomation was not available until after 1971. I told them about Meire & his sister, & Vegas but they don't get that either. I told them about Jeanne being a designer for show girls in the past but they don't get that one either. Jeanie was Meire's sister. I told about the connnetion to Hughes thru these guys, but they don't get that one either. I told them about your and MJ's 3 wk stent working the planes in CA for a delivery service and then cleaning up the planes -the don't believe anything The note you sent to the RENO Paper with your army and navy written in Code...they dont' beleive that one either. They don't believe you worked with Paperlegs for Air America doing some dirty work for a few month to get start over money. AWARE and CAT were the best connections but they don't care. CAT and AWARE was used to build the air strips and the jump strips but they don't care. These guys were connected to you parents and your family...but none of you family knew you used that knowledge for other things. I told them about Bernie - but they don't understand the connection to Meire. All of that has been covered up for yrs and the US will never allow the secrets to be told. I have MOUSE and the pic and the knife - but, I think I will just bury them with you in an undisclosed location - somewhere NO ONE will ever look. My life had been threatened more than once and Cossie got killed because they thought he knew something or because he just didn't want to talk....I want to at least see his murderer go to prison - but he will get away scot free! Cossie was nice to me & so was Ralph - he tired to help Jac but, he could only do so much. I guess I should find out where he is buried or where his family is & send MOUSE to them - his kids or grand kids might get a kick out of that. The entire thing has been a white wash from get go. HOW the HELL did you get involved in all of this shit. I knew you were an excon & no one hired excons for the kind of work we did nor did they make the kind of money we made. WELL, the guys who were not so clean who aided you sure as hell must have been pretty damn proud of you....you kept the secrets - but I am the one who ran them underground...but I wasn't supposed to know. You do know they tried to get rid of me and they threatened me several times....but it is just my word...no one believe a damn thing I have told them. Well, Duane I am very very tired and I just can't keep on - I just wish you had been more specific with me....but it is what it is. Hopefully some of those who do know the truth will come to see me so I can die with a clear conscience and know that all of this has not been for nothing. Jerry the one in WA & his brother told me they were trying to get recognition for you guys but Jerry died and the brother really doesn't have the pull to do so - he also may now be ceceased. I love you & I aways will, but I hate that you told me your story - it has destroyed 20 yrs of my life that might have been more productive. NOW I am old & worn out & I am very very tired....regardless of what you were I did love you - you were the love of my life...you treated me like I was a princess & I guess in your eyes I was....you had never been around anyone like me....and you also where the love of my life. I had never been treated like I was a precious gift...my life had been full of emotional & physical abuse until I met you - you treated me like a china doll & I miss you so much & that smile you always gave me... Nothing ever got you down - even in the rought time you never let me know how hard it was... I will love you till the end of time & I know I was the love of your life and that I am why you walked away from a life of crime, but you were also the love of my life - because NO one had ever treated me with the tenderness and the love you gave to me. Our relationship was never about sex - we were both lousey at that - it was about REAL & genuine love & giving & being there for each other. I have only one regret - I wish you had kept you damn secret a secret & maybe the last 20 yrs of my life could have been spent doing the things that were important - now it is too late - I am used up & very tired, but I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU! The song you used to sing to me was from your heart - just because of the way you treated me & the way you shielded me. Maybe knowing your past makes the love you had for me even more important. I have mixed feeling about it. NOW I am old & tired & do not know what is going to happen to me - I am lone & no one would ever want an old crippled lady with all of this emotiona baggage. Those CREEPS out of Ft Lauderdale didn't have to try to kill me! That is the part that hurts & the pain I wlll live with for the rest of my life. You'll never now How much I love you if you don't now! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

SO YOU ADMIT YOU POSTED YOUR PIECE WITHOUT A CLEARANCE FROM BILL! YOU ARE A WEASEL, A RAT AND ANY DISPICABLE NAME I CAN FIND TO CALL YOU. YOU SHUT DOWN EVERY INDIVIDUAL YOU INTERVIEW. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, Duane had an apparatus that was able to tap into phone lines, but I do not know how or why he needed such a thing....I saw it and the told me what it was, but I never knew if he used it. That thing was in his van and he told me to never touch it. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Duane had an uncanny knowledge of communication systems and he could get in on any phone line he wanted - without being in your house. That CB was not a normal CB it was more than a CB. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Your words not his words....he did not expect a guy to guy conversation to be reported in such a derogatory way. He is not a person who would demean anyone....he was always very kind. You published what you said WITHOUT his signing off of what was being written. HE had NOT been WARNED about your tactics & the vulgar things you had reported about Tina...had he known that - I doubt he would have agreed to an interview. He thought you were a legitimate newpaper writer - he was unaware of your reputation. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BEHIND THAT BABY FACE & SMIRK HIDES A VERY VERY DANGEROUS PERSON - A VERY SICK PERSON. TELL THESE NICE PEOPLE WHY YOU CANNOT GO BACK TO N.Y. TO LIVE! TELL THEM WHY YOU CANNOT GO NEAR TINA OR HER FAMILY - TELL THEM HOW RUDE YOU WERE & THE VULGAR LUSTING REMARKS YOU MADE. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

THis is the specific problem: YOU wrote a draft: "4. I wrote up a draft of the interview and sent it to Vicki to send to Bill because I didn't have Bill's email address. 5. I didn't hear back from Bill, so I posted it on the Mountain News and on Shutter's site. " You couldn't wait to have him sign off on it! YOU ARE A SMUT WRITER & YOU WILL NEVER BE ANY MORE...YOU PUBLISHED YOUR ARTICLE WITHOUT ANYONE SIGNING OFF ON IT...NOR IT BEING DISCUSSED. I HAVE BEEN YOUR VICTIM MORE THAN ONE TIME - I KNOW HOW YOU ADD DISCUSTING WORDS & YOUR SICK OPINIONS. THIS IS WHY TINA NOR HER FAMILY WILL TALK TO YOU. THINK ABOUT THE SICK THINGS YOU CONTINUALLY REPEAT OVER & OVER IN THIS THREAD ABOUT THEM & about me. PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOULD BE PUT IN PRISON...THERE IS A LIMITATION TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH - AND IT IS CALLED SLANDER. YOU MADE COSSEY MAD with your persistent phone calls & SHOWED UP ON IS DOOR UNANNOUNCED! Didn't you? YOU WERE GRIPPING ABOUT HIS NOT GIVING YOU AN INTERVIEW right here in this thread AND KNOWING YOU PAST ACTIONS - did you show up on his door unnanouced? You seemingly never have any money, but right after his death you were there every day hasseling the authorities. Who financed that! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

It is not now - it was YRS ago I talked about a man in S.Central Florida - in fact before I ever came to the thread. I have told the story before in the thread and before Vickie came aboard. Then when Vicke came around the story again was renewed. She expressed no interest in persuing it. I again spent hours and hours going thru old files I had - but I had clean them out several yrs ago and those pages I tossed. Pages in planners and old telephone bills - I just had too much clutter. As usual my word does not mean diddle squat to anyone around here....I have a remarkable memory - and I had a conversation with the man in Fla who was responsible for the story in a small town News Paper in the deep South part of Fl on a lake. Since I no longer had the paper files I had to go with my memory...I again recontacted the Orlando Senteniental. I can tell you part of this was when I first came to the thread - 377 helped me with the research on some of this....I just remembered that. I am getting old and my memory is has become fragmented but pretty damn good for a 74 yr old. When the head of the competitive thread comes to this thread and makes statements that are derogator regarding posters here - that is VERY inappropriate. Such as his statement below "Jo is now claiming to know where two known fugitives are" WELL, YOUNG man I did that LONG LONG before I ever heard of you... some of it in this thread and some before I got here..... I am not going to retell the story about Mel Wilson for your benefit...it is all in this thread and other places. I couldn't find the evidence then other than my talking to the man who made the claim who helped her father...but I didn't know it was her father until she came to the thread and by then the information was gone. The man was who helped her father was no long at the number I had...and since he was elderly at the time I spoke to him - probably deceased. The man who had the newspaper was younger, but the newspaper was defunct as sometimes happens with small town papers. I no longer had any of the information...other than what my memory stored....I remembered finding the news paper number after the Orlando Sentinel provided me a copy of the article which gave the name of the man...they had picked the story up from a smaller paper... The man had closed the newpaper, but the number was still going to his house....until all the bills were paid. He was the one that took several wks to recontact me because he had to get the other mans permission to give me a contact number....then it took several calls to reach the older man....He was very nice and told me the story the man told him...he was very sick and couldn't pay his rent and he needed medical attention. The kind man made sure he did NOT do without food or shelter and arranged for him to get some help with no questions asked. The man had told him he could NOT apply for help because he was wanted for counterfieting some 20's many yrs ago. He told me the man died a few short month later and was buried in a paupers grave just out side of town...if I remember correctly he made sure there was a small marker - I do no remember the name the man was living under. The counterfiet bill charges and that he had escaped - when WHAT's HER FACE came to the thread - it hit me that might be her father...I am so angry over all of this garbage you young punkd throw around that I just emotionally erase the names. It was NOT something I needed to remember but when the time came that this memory meant something a lot of yrs had gone by. The story originally got my attention because Duane had told me in 1983 when there was an article in the Atlanta New Journal about Vickie's father - Duane had told me he knew the man. Then after Duane dies in 1995 and I am investigating Cooper low and behold this story about the guy in South Fla shows up. So I had a link between Duane and the man or it would never have met diddle squat to me. I feel violated by the jerks on the thread who jump to conclusions that JO makes all of this shit up - believe you me I do not have any imagination at all...I lived this damn life and what I write about really happened. Therefore I am 99% possitive the man was Whats' her faces father. When someone hurts me - my mind erases their name - I do not know why that happens. It will come back, but for the time being it is just whats her face. I should know better than to try to help anyone in the younger generation - they think all of us old people are crazy and they have NO respect for us or our minds or our abilities. I would put a $100 bet on the fact that that man was VICKIES dad - because I KNOW IT WAS. Duane even knew where the man was - because he had made mention of it. We had gone to south FL for something - my parents lived in Clermont and we had gone down to the southern part of FL and drove back...he made a comment about having known a guy who lived there he used to know. Then I found out that Vickies Dad and Duane were in SAN QUENTIN at the same time. Then later they both lived in an areas around Missouri that they both lived in. Mary Jane - Duane's wife even told me about this...she had some pictures of the man's wife and children....but I figured it was about all of that SWINGing STUFF they were into and I didn't want to look the woman up. They had originally met in CA. when Mary Jane and Duane were on the run in 1962 and then they both end up in the east. Then I find out that Melvin was also in San Quentin at the same time Duane was. It all added up - it didn't take a rocket scientist. So go get in a corner and squat down and suck you damn thumb...Jo Weber did NOT make this shit up! Jo Weber is a dodo - she can't make shit up. To do so is just beyond her...she makes mistake but make nothing up. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, I was banned from the other site and all I did was go there to read....NEVER WANTED or attempted to post. I defended my self on the DZ. THis is what I found: "Sorry Skyjack71, you are banned from using this forum! Pending a talk with Bruce Smith. This ban is set to expire March 21, 2015, 12:36:38 AM." Why in the HELL would I want to speak the worst of the scum in the world - that will be a cold day in hell. Does Bruce own that thread? If he does he needs to be banned from the DZ. YET THAT MAN CAN COME HERE AND SAY WHAT EVER HE WANTS TO SAY ABOUT ANYONE BE IT LIES OF SCUM BAG INFORMATION ABOUT TINA MUCKLOW AND HER FAMILY AND HE JUST KEEPS ON POSTING AND EVEN WHEN HE CAN'T POST HE READS. I NEVER EVEN ATTEMPTED TO POST TO THAT OTHER PLACE - JUST KEEP TRACK OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. WHEN IT GETS TO LIERS LIKE BRUCE - AND THE HURT IT CAUSES OTHERS I WILL SPEAK UP! What these guys have done is set up a fly trap. THere are 2 guys on that forum who know the truth about Cooper & lots of other Goverment secrets. Georger whose REAL name is Jerry Warren was incharge of a crew who worked for Kissy Kissy out of TX. This wealthy man would give ex-cons a job. He even allowed some of them to chauffer & park cars during his very large parties which included such individuals as Presidents of the USA and famous movie stars. This was before Kennedy was killed. You see when I am unable to read and monitor what certain ones are saying then I occupy my time telling the truths I have hidden for yrs & yrs. Jerry Warren or Warner. Yrs ago his name came up as the man who held the records & he was no longer in Tx...so why would the records be in his hand not to mention they were "simple" employment records???Yea, NOT so simple. Right! In the early days the guys were just cons who did special things for this wealth man...but, he helped several of them become ligitimate in return for their efforts. They got to work REAL jobs for REAL pay & have life insurance & health insurance...he provided for the ones who helped him clean up things. When I was trying to chase Duane's background is when I found out Jerry's connection to Kissy Kissy & the company he created & owned. This man had the same heritiage as Georger....They honored the country they adopted....but did not like to see it being destroyed. They therefore set up their own forces to protect & do no Harm. Unfortunately one of their protective stands failed & Kennedy was assassinated. A crew was sent in - ordered not to be armed - they were paid & trained by "Do NO Harm". They went to protect the president, but knew if they were armed they would be blamed for his assassination. They had hoped their presence would stop what they knew had been planned. Robt99 I believe is part of this because of his connections & he is a pilot....& he hailed at one time from that same area. He was a late comer to the Cooper story. but was brought in to HANDLE Jo. Now lets see if they want to TALK! Robt99 do you remember that trip in 1969 or 1970...what did you bury in the wall. Georger - evidently the lesson you provided about the stars & the moon & the position these things would be in on that night were of no avail due to the storm...but other safe guards in place...one Tower they hoped he could see even thru the clouds - the tower light blinked - and it was NOT suppose to do so... The guy on duty that night lost his job for a few wks, but then the FBI decided it didn't have anything to do with the jump & let the man go back to work... NOW do any of you THINK Jo has anything TO talk about to the liar of Cooper world.(bruce smith)...the man who sucks everyone dry with his lies and vulgarities. This is the pyramid theory & he knew if he could see that light it was furtherest most point...his compass would guide him on ground & he had the technology with him to send out a signal so he could be picked up. He left a car at a jump strip on 500 and another one not too far from Homan.... Check it out - maybe he left one of those cars there. I believe the one abandoned near Homan. I expect both cars had a homing device on them and there was one at the Air Park Tower & 2 other towers. Think homing devices did NOT exist then - thing again. The technology already existed....just not mass produced but BRR- finally got some backing from Mr. M & crew. Well, the damn thing didn't work so he headed to the towers he was picking up a signal on...he had enough out there that any one them could lead him to a way out. How much of the above can I prove - ALL OF IT. I have stayed quiet WAY too long. NOW it is time. I have feared for my life if I came forward, but at this stage of my life - I fear NO ONE. BRR! I have thrown that out for yrs and NO one got it except Georger & Robt...that is when Robt entered the picture... No I am not nuts Robt - I knew you were a front when you came here. You and other have tried to make it appear that I was messed up....but you can't do that any more...I got the pictures & the mouse and the piece of the plane window & one of you had a real weird mustach - sitting against a wall in a long narrow office....I believe that one was Gilliam. The others seemed younger. One of the went on to own or work at a newspaper in Seattle...had a funny first name - Alava oa Evale like Levan Alan but not Alan.... Now you want to shut me up then you better talk to me. All I ever wanted was the truth. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

YOU HAVE SENT ARIELS BUT NO PICTURES OF THE AREA FROM THE WATER OR FROM THE ROAD NOTHING BUT ARIELS. AND THOSE ARIELS HAD NO DATES. THERE ARE PICTURES OF A HOUSE BEHIND A WIRE FENCE AND BEHIND THE TREE LINE...THERE WAS A HOUSE. 1979 AND 2001 - IT WAS RIGHT THERE. EVEN HIMMELSBACH ASKED FAZIO WHAT THEY DID TO CHANGE THE HOUSE....WE WERE STARING STRAIGHT AT IT...HAD A BACK DOOR....& STOOP. WAS STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BACK! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

If you are posting on one Cooper site you should be allowed to post on the other site....if you own one site you should not be able to post on an opposing site.. I was not posting on the other site just reading, but deliberate lies were told & repeated in a place I was not able to defend myself, I defended myself in the DZ.... What was being said was inflammator & not true...I wanted to keep the Facts of the TRUTH in order...when I did that I was BANDED from reading the other thread. Is there not something about that in the constitution....??? The right to speak for myself & to defend myself...I was not speaking in their room but in another room. All sites should be for PUBLIC read & it is a site for a select few - how does on defend themselves? That thread reflects the muse of a select group. Yet, I was NOT allowed to Defend myself in the only medium I have which is the DZ. I have dialup - not much in the way of alternatives to defend myself. I noted the deliberate lies being told & lies which I have actual paper work to prove, In calling this to their attention on the DZ yesterday & I come back the next day & there are 2 pages of others from that forum BLASTING me for telling the truth in this thread. Isn't there such a thing as the constitution. I am supposed to read the lies & NOT defend myself & yet they can do dual posting in both places - there is something wrong with this situation.Those that do dual posting should be banned from the DZ. Actually they use the DZ to promote their site! Almost all of their poster were originally here....even the new comers. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, I was banned from the other site & all I did was go to read. This is what I found: "Sorry Skyjack71, you are banned from using this forum! Pending a talk with Bruce Smith. This ban is set to expire March 21, 2015, 12:36:38 AM." All I did was defend myself from an out and out lie...I was the person responsible for Vickie contacting Bill, but she evidently shared that information with the devil himself - the man who has no truth boundaries - Bruce Smith. Why in the HELL would I want to speak with the scum of Cooper world - that will be a cold day in hell. Two parties who are major posters on that thread are part of the past. The come here and take what the learn and use it in that thread...one so difficult to follow it makes no sense - plus it is set up so they cannot be confronted. Two of the guys are not what they pretend to be. What these guys have done is set up a fly trap. There are 2 guys on that forum who know the truth about Cooper & lots of other Goverment secrets. Georger whose REAL name is Jerry Warren was incharge of a crew who worked for Kissy Kissy out of TX. This wealthy man would give ex-cons a job. He even allowed some of them to chauffer & park cars during his very large parties which included such individuals as Presidents of the USA & famous movie stars. This was before Kennedy was killed. You see when I am unable to read & monitor what certain ones are saying then I occupy my time telling the truths I have hidden for yrs & yrs. Take note Jerry Warren or Warner. Yrs ago his name came up as the man who held the records & he was no longer in Tx...so why would the records be in his hand...employment records??? Because in the early days the guys were just cons who did special things for this wealth man...but, he helped several of the become ligitimate in return for their efforts. They got to work REAL jobs for REAL pay & have life insurance & health insurance...he provided for the ones who helped him clean up things....to make what he thought would be a better America. When I was trying to chase Duane's background is when I found out about Jerry's connection to Kissy Kissy and the company he created and owned. This man had the same heritiage as Georger....They honored the country they adopted....but did not like to see it being destroyed. They therefore set up their own forces to Protect and do no Harm. Unfortunately one of their protective stands failed & Kennedy was assassinated. A crew was sent in - ordered not to be armed - They were paid & trained by "Do NO Harm". These guys came from all walks of life - but they took a vow of silence. They went to DALLES to protect the president, but knew if they were armed they would be blamed for his assassination. They had hoped their presence would stop what had been planned Robt99 is part of this because of his connections & he is a pilot....and he hailed at one time from that same area. He was a late comer to the Cooper story. but was brought in to HANDLE Jo. Now lets see if they want to TALK! Robt99 & Jerry do you remember that trip in 1969 or 1970...what did you bury in the wall. Who was incharge of the pictures? Georger - evidently the lesson you provided about the stars & the moon & the position these things would be in on that night were of no avail due to the storm...but other safe guards in place...one Tower they hoped he could see even thru the clouds - the tower light blinked - and it was NOT suppose to do so... The guy on duty that night lost his job for a few wks, but then decided it didn't have anything to do with the jump & let the man go back to work... Jo has NOTHING to discuss with Bruce Smith of Cooper world....the man who sucks everyone dry with lies & vulgarities. The pyramid theory is no theory it was fact. If he could see that light at the furtherest most point...his compass would guide him on ground & he had the technology with him to pick up a ping being transmitted from certain locations...towers in a triangle. How much of the above can I prove - ALL OF IT. I stayed quiet WAY too long. NOW it is time. I have feared for my life if I came forward, but at this stage of my life - I fear NO ONE. BRR! I have thrown that out for yrs & NO one got it except Georger & Robt...that is when Robt entered the picture...Rap Rapp Rappp. Just a little clue so they know I mean business. Bernie is gone - but I want to collect on the insurance - should be around a 1/2 mill now. They both know what Kissy Kissy means. They both know exactly what I am talking about. Maybe I got pictures.... who was handling the camera...yea they paid him 50K for them in1990 - but there are more. You guys have no idea what I am talking about but Georger and Robt 99 DO!. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[mrshutter45]Jo has really disappointed me more than any other poster in this forum. it was very disrespectful to make such a statement about a father who has been missing for 40 + years. she can drag Duane through the mud, but don't make claims like that about family members, especially about ones who post here, and on my forum, and, telling her to go to hell to boot. those should be grounds for removal IMO. anything goes here for some reason? [/mrshsuther45] Before you go smearing me here for the benefit of your thread - you need to know what riled me. I WAS THE ONE WHO SENT AN EMAIL TO BILL ON BEHALF OF VICKIE AND TOLD HIM ABOUT HER CIRCUMSTANCES & GAVE HIM HER CONTACT INFOMATION. I HAD REFUSED TO PROVIDE IT TO HER OR ANYONE ELSE - BECAUSE OF PRINCIPALS. THEY MADE CONTACT BECAUSE OF THAT EMAIL...YET, SHE DIDN'T EVEN GIVE ME CREDIT FOR IT - INSTEAD SHE BLASTED ME AS BEING EVIL... YES, I was up set with her about Bruce being given the contact information & you know Bruce twists things & he lies. The consequences of this is that Bill will now NOT correspond with anyone....& his email address was forwarded to multiple individuals. For yrs this man maintained his privacy & one act of kindness explosed him to the world. This is why I never give out confidential infomation...and then for that information to fall into the hand of the one person I hate the most - the ENQUIRER REPORTER whose name in BS. Therefore if you are disappointed in my being a forthright person so be it. I know certain individuals are into the Cooper story - not for the truth but to make sure the truth is never know. Such as their claims there was NO house directly behind the money find...if there WAS NO house there then Mr. Fazio & Mr. Himmelsbach and a TV crew all lied and took me to another place.....There was a house directly behind the money find per the location the TV crew was taken and the place Fazio and Himmelsbach claimed was the are the money was found in. ARE there 2 locations - one only the FBI knows about and another that was made Public? This would seem to be a problem. MORE so of a problem when NOT one person can provide me a picture of the house that was along the road and in the foreground of the money find. Separated from the beach by a wire fence and a line of trees. In other words what I saw did NOT exist...or did it? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber