GentleTiger

Great set up: big hangar, lots of carpeted packing room, air conditioned skydiver lounge, shower, classroom. nice lawn for landing. Stuff: Fast little 182, BOC rentals, packers and riggers usually on hand. Staff: Very experienced, knowledgable and friendly. Up in the air: it's nice and cool in the summer, incredible views of the countryside, Skiatook Lake and Tulsa. Under canopy: Usually a 10 - 12 knot wind out of the southwest. Atmosphere: Folks always looking to jump together for fun and RW, lots of old timers, very relaxed.

quit jumping? they gonna have to pry my toggles out of my cold dead hands. ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

stevemeisterrrrrrrrr! thanx! will be back on Sunday...stopping in Skydive Dallas Saturday. Fun. bbs ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

hey girl! how you doing?? send me an email and tell me all that you're up to these days! will always remember plf...I've done it so many times and ya, I think the field elevation had something, but little difference...the difference was in the winds..perfect tnumerous time o start running the jump out. so now I wait for lesser and lesser winds, speeding up my ability to run. WAAAAAAAAAAAHOOOOOOOOOOOO! never thought skydiving could be so much fun! love Skydive Airtight, the poor dzo has me buggin him all the time...canIjumpcanIjumpcanIjump??? wind is 10,0000,000 mph??? no problem canIjumpcanIjump??? bbs to u mar, ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

hey guys, most of you have read about my skydiving career, so, if you haven't read my threads, you may want to check em out...bad landings, lots of lessons and a broken back. now, it took 132 jumps and 1 1/2 years in the sport, I finally stood up the jump and ran it out!!! in fact, I have 3, yeah, count em 3 walk it out landings now!!! while landing on my feet is becoming less of a surprise for me now, I haven't tired of doing a silly victory dance afterward. yep...stood up. walked it out. damn...it was easier than I thought, I just had to get out of the fear. oh, ya...I even have witnesses!!!! muhahahahahaha

Wow, thanx everyone, I think Billvon's advice was outstanding...there's a proper response for each situation, and that response depends on the situation...Thanks Katee...I know I've had my "ups and downs" in this sport, but I'm always learning and having a great time...landing out was a wonderful challenge, and I LOVE obstacle avoidance. And thanx to the rest of you for such wonderful comments...I"m going to open high and play as soon as it stops raining. A quick story about cows: I used to live in Montana, deep in the Cabinet Mountains. There was a herd of cows that kept overstepping the road barriers that were placed there to keep the cows IN. So, when I'd see them coming down my driveway, before they'd get to my horses, I'd go out there, blow a few rounds of my 9mm into the air, and they would turn tail and go. Except one time. They got real pissed and stampeded. Towards me. My eyes got REAL BIG and I turned tail and ran!! I had no idea I could go so fast!! Everything turned out okay, and the rancher moved his cows. bbse1 and thanx again!! Tiger ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

Hi all, sometimes I write and ask questions and people get into an uproar about things totally unrelated...they bicker about the smallest detail...it's kind of understandable, because it's the detail that can make or break us...but bickering about them just confuses low timers like me, so please be gentle. I have a question, I'd like to find the general consensus, without us bickering please. After tracking away from a 4-way, I opened way out and had an upwind attempt at getting back to the dz. It's happened to me once before and I was told by an old timer that I should have used rear risers, instead of trying to find the best glide using the brakes. In any case, the other day, when it happened again after tracking away from the 4-way, it was a very windy day. I used rear risers to try to get back, and at 700 feet or so, knew I wasn't even going to come close, so, I picked my spot and landed just fine, avoiding a ditch, a stream, a fence and wooden stakes. using rear risers, I was able to get past the buildings and into the grass. when I got back to the dz (after rousing security of the place where I landed, and the dzo), I was welcomed back with big smiles and lots of pats on the back and hugs. I was then advised by a couple of other people that I should have used nothing at all, brakes, or front risers. (using front risers seemed sort of moot, I wasn't trying to penetrate anything, I was going for distance). So, what is the general consensus and thoughts of trying to get back to the dz, up wind? It seems using rear risers makes the most sense, but, as someone said at the dz, the more info I can get, the better. I"ll appreciate all of your experiences and wisdom. Thanx! bbs, Tiger ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

yeah, one of my guys at the dz who knows his shit... yknow, it seems some of you are just lookin for an argument...lighten up, give it a rest and stick with the thread. I'm not the only one who said driving is safer, so get off my back. ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

well, it's easy to spend a couple of hundred hours in the car and not get killed...in skydiving terms, it wuld be the equivilant of a few thousand jumps. pretty good odds I'd say. Nowadays, there are people with 10,000+ jumps and they are still jumping. You'll also find peiple with years and years of jumping who haven't been killed..with that in mind, in 10,000 trips I think I can speak confidently about bang ups...fatal or not. Last year, or the year before, there wre 2.5 million tandems, zero fatailities. pretty goo odds there too. so, while the consequences are inherently high, statistics can show you that it's safer than driving, or they can show you that it's more dangerous...it depends on your own mind set. Sure, we walk away with bumps and bruises at times, but very few fatalitises if you compare them to the number of fatalities in the US while drving. I have to admit that from these posts, I am reconsidering the truth of my stance on this issue. It was something that was said to me, so I pass it on to newbies considering the sport to help calm them down. I'm so tired I'm seein double, but I hope this answers your question. I'm surprised this thread hasnt' been moved. bbs Tiger ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

well said. bbs Tiger ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

Numbers are tangible and they don't lie, however, there are any number of ways to interpret statistics. You will find that I am, by far, NOT the only one who says that "Statistically, skydiving is safer than driving." For example, say there's a piece of land a company wants to log. They hire surveyors. Environmentalist groups hire their own, then the government hires theirs. Now, they come up with the same numbers, but the way they interpret them supports their existing beliefs. The answers you get depend on the questions you ask. From my point of view, skydiving IS safer. Your argumentativeness was uncalled for. Tiger ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

maybe I should have typed "people" instead of "guys". this was a post about giving advice to someone who is considering the sport, not an argument of how statistics should be interpreted. may I suggest you stick with the thread? Tiger ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

I've been thinking about having the LASIK done, but after reading these posts, there is no way I'm having anything done. I don't like the eye doc to begin with...I know that as I'm getting older, my eyes are changing, I'll stick with my glasses and have THEM adjusted every couple of years. I'm not afraid to be a coward! BBS Tiger ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!

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You will have to rip my toggles out of my old, cold, dead hands. ________________________________________ Look, up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a tiger in the sky!! Throw down some steaks and run for the hills!!!