JoeyH

I have been packing since I was 8 years old. Someone told me that I should look into getting my riggers ticket as soon as I turn 18. What would be the first step in getting my riggers ticket? Where could I go (in the us obviously) to start this process and get it completed in one long large effort? What am I allowed to do with each level of Rigger Certification? Thanks :) Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

I like this pilot. lol. I never said they wouldn't help. I just said they shouldn't if there is another person that can. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

Not sure exactly, what model the plane shown in this video precisely is - but, quite clearly - it is in fact not a 182. That much is for absolutely sure. This is definitely not a 182. It is a Pilatus Porter. MUCH bigger than a 182. lol. But even if it was a 182.... The pilot shouldn't help until it becomes a life risk to the pilot and the rest of the jumpers. He needs to focus on flying. There are other jumpers behind him in the plane that I am sure helped. xD Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

WOW! lol. I lived on this DZ back in '09. I think I know who the instructor is. Same jumpsuit as I remember. Hard o tell because of the Full Face helm. This is at Ostre Aera in Norway. lol Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

That is a good possibility as well. I am not saying that gusts are for sure what happened, but every possibility should be left open. ya know? Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

I agree with sinjin as well, but all you can see from the dailymotion vid is that he suddenly left the line and went into the trees. Wind gusts are an extremely likely cause of what we saw. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

My bottom line is: The purpose of this post was "hey, one of the best wingsuit pilots in the world went in, realize how dangerous it is before you consider jumping off of the eiger with 100 jumps and little more than an A license under your belt" and we are sitting here arguing over weather the post belongs here or not? Seriously? HE'S DEAD and we are arguing over post placement instead of accepting the extremely valid lesson that this post is meant to deliver. Fucking stupid. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

Really? You really think that skydivers in the sport for a year don't understand the difference between proximity WS BASE and a 4 way belly jump? Where do you jump and what are they teaching you guys? Experienced jumpers have a tendency to talk about new skydivers like they are toddlers. All skydivers, students or otherwise, are adults. If an adult can't understand that WS BASE is more dangerous than a skydive, they'll die long before they ever to the exit point. Probably by forgetting to feed themselves. The purpose of this forum isn't to protect people from WS BASE. It's to provide useful information about skydiving incidents. If you feel compelled to post about an incident that you don't know anything about and a person you didn't know, then I suggest you do it on basejumper.com. They'll be happy to hear your informed opinions over there. You are right, so maybe a year was a bit high for my statement, so i effectively retract that part. But you should still understand my point. I don't mean it to "Protect". I mean it to inform the risks involved in the transition of sports because sadly there are a lot of brand new jumpers who try to get into things that they don't quite understand the consequences and risks, (like when younger jumpers downsize too soon and/or try to swoop and break their legs or worse) and that is how people get killed. I don't claim to know everything about the incident, nor do I claim to know the guy. I just simply stated that I believe everybody can learn from this, especially new jumpers who have the goal of proxy flying. I am also not being a complete dick about it, nor am I being a complete dick to the people who don't agree with something that I say. This debate, or lack thereof, is pointlessly stupid. I have put in my $0.02 and respected what other people have said about it, so as far as I am concerned, there is no need to continue any conversation on the topic. So I suppose an admin should just take this post down. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

You have been in the sport for 20 years. You have the experience to have that perspective. A new skydiver, who has only been in or around the sport for a year or so, does not yet have that perspective. Most new skydivers see it as "Parachuting". To a lot of people, it is all the same. There are multiple proxy flying videos in DZ.com, all of which highlight the cool or amazing aspects of the activity. Nobody jumps up and says that those do not belong on this site. So when a fatality happens that wasn't out of pure stupidity or pilot error, I think it should also be discussed here. I only say this because more and more people are getting into skydiving with the sole purpose of one day being like the guys on youtube. So if they see the risks before they have to experience something like this firsthand (weather a personal friend or themselves), they might not ever take the risk to begin with. Not many people who are not already base jumping are a part of basejumper.com. I think that it is important to discuss these things where new jumpers can read it. I am by no means saying to post all base fatalities, but there is something to be learned from Victor. He was considered one of the best pilots in the world. #1 in his country for sure. So if a new skydiver that doesn't read basejumper.com sees this post right after seeing a cool proxy video, it gives a level realization of all aspects of the activity. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

While it is a BASE incident, I do not know of one base jumper or proxy flier who didn't start out as a skydiver, and progressed to wingsuits in the air, then progressed to base and proxy flying. I feel it is very important to have base incidents in this forum so that skydiving students and such read about the risks before they go out and try to get into base and proxy flying. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

Victor died in China while He was doing training jumps for the World Wingsuit League competitions. While this may be a wingsuit BASE fatality, I think it is important to address. It was just a gust of wind. That's all. It blew him off course and he wasn't able to pull. So what can this fatality teach skydiving wingsuiters and BASE jumping wingsuiters alike? Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

wait.... that actually sounds like.... crap what was her name? missy? maybe. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

even more excited because i just found a pic of my first tandem when i was 6!!!! Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

yeah, like i said... didnt say it was rare... im just excited because i thought i lost em all. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

cool! i love hearing about new fellow young jumpers! Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

QuoteThis isn't rare by any means. I don't know what you are referring to but I didn't say anything was rare. I was just excited because I thought I lost all of my pics

Let me rephrase that, none existed that I currently know of. He may have had one. But if he didn't....nobody cares. 1. It was long enough ago that nobody would care right now, 2. I highly doubt anybody cared then either. Seeing as my dad was the ti, I grew up around dropzones and had jumps prior to this picture, strong had nothing to worry about when it comes to liability of anything. We wouldn't have sued them because we both knew the risk involved and we had been involved in the sport for such a long time before that. So if anybody cared back then, they shouldn't have, but certainly do not care now. No harm no fowl. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

None existed. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

Nope... Lol... Good point though. Everyone definitely knew my age. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

Ti is my dad. Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

This was supposed to say "like the zepplin symbols?" Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

Sadly, just because you treat your woman good doesn't mean she will return the favor man. Just listen to the blues... They will tell ya. ;) Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

That may be a good idea Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

Or the Zepplin symbols? No pronunciation but looks good on paper xD Carpe Diem, even if it kills me

This sounds about perfect. Hell it sounds perfect for any jump.