Stack to Stack

[aykay 0]

Not sure if this has been discussed before but.....

What is the best way to do this move? Where the top jumper must remain on top.

eg B to B, or E to E.

Having trouble with the top jumper surging forward after we break the point. Should the top jumper move to the right and then back in to top dock, can he put double front riser in after the first point then try to back in on brakes or should the bottom jumper try and fly in on rears?

This move is causing most headaches at the moment.

Is it possible to just "flash" the move by taking the feet out and putting them straight back in without even making a move?

What are your thoughts?

[plastic 0]

Akay,

A good way to do this is the top guy to do a quick outside front riser (whichever way you prefer) and then back in on brakes with a little more inside brake.

Sometimes the bottom guy may need to use a little inside brake to "open the door" if the top guy goes to far to the side.

If the top guy overcooks it and comes back a little low then the bottom guy can jab both front risers to drop the canopy on.

When the top guy gets good at this it is a simple swing out swing in. Remember you must show seperation between points.

Hope this helps
Plastic

[aykay 0]

Thanks for that.

When you say you have to show seperation. Does there have to be clear sky between the two jumpers?

[plastic 0]

That was what was needed to be shown to be sure of not risking a bust.

plastic

[TVPB 0]

Put yourself in the judges shoes. If you are looking at a 2 way sequential video, and you are unsure of a clear break or not, would you consider busting the point?

Your best bet is to make it obvious, and talk to the judges. Lindy R from Oz will be able to help. She was meet director for the last World Cup and has done lots of world meet judging.

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The above could be crap, thought provoking, useful, or . . But not personal. You decide.

[plastic 0]

Exactly, if you show clear blue sky on seperation then you will not get busted, if not you are at the mercy of the judges.

plastic

[aykay 0]

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Exactly, if you show clear blue sky on seperation then you will not get busted, if not you are at the mercy of the judges.

plastic

Sounds like a lot of time would be wasted even when the judges could tell there is some sort of seperation.

What about going from point a --> c if you slide along the nose of the canopy to get there. Or... if you go for a wing dock, grab a line in and then walk across the lines to get there? Would these situations cause a bust?

[plastic 0]

Akay,

I think that grabbing canopies and walking grips would be even slower. When you get this technique right you should be looking at a 5s transition from stack to stack which should be as quick as any other transition.

plastic

[aykay 0]

Your right.

[plastic 0]

The problem of showing seperation between points is only really relevant if you are droppnig a grip and taking the same grip again on the same canopy eg wing to wing or centre to centre, you just need to show the judges that you have actually released the grip.

I am not an expert on 2-way, it is not my event but i did a lot of 4-way seq, but the speed will come from the ability to do legs takes, picking up a grip without releasing the toggles. Think about it how long do you take to drop a toggle grab a canopy put your foot in pick up your toggle again and regain control of your canopy before you can release for the next point.

Learning leg takes will take a little longer but when you can do it you will really notice how much you can speed up the transitions, the main thing is that in order to do a good leg take the dock must be good, be it the lower guy doing a normal dock or the top guy doing a top dock.

Hope all this has helped, and good luck.

plastic