mollusc 0 #1 July 22, 2003 I was just wondering. How do you know if a safire is american or european made? If I have understood correctly they differ in size hence the wingload and will affect my decision when buying used. When I am still here, do anyone know the main differences between the safire 1 and 2 besides the size issue? Have also noticed this line mod available for the safire 1. Will this make it more like the 2? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DYEVOUT 0 #2 July 22, 2003 look here. http://www.icaruscanopies.com/canopies/Safire/index.htm ----------------=8^)---------------------- "I think that was the wrong tennis court." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TALONSKY 0 #3 July 22, 2003 On the warning label located on the middle of the top skin of the tail. The warning label will have the size max weight and in a white box on the lower left hand corner of the label there will be a stamp. That stamp is where it was made if it is a parachute symbol similar to the USPA symbol it was made in Spain, I have also seen an I believe a EUR for Europe. If it was made in the USA, I believe it will state USA or maybe PA for Precision Aerodynamics. Kirk I e-mailed Icarus and explained that this had been talked about here and if they could give me a reply that I could post so here is Icarus's reply The Safire-1 and the Omega are measured differently to PD canopies. As a rough guide a Safire-1 or Omega is about the same size as the next size down - eg A Safire 149 is about a 135. A Safire 119 is about a 109. Use an equation of 8%. The Safire-2 and Omni (Omni supercedes Omega) are measured the same as PD. All other Icarus Canopies are measured the same as PD. The reason for the difference is due to Precision measuring their canopies differently. Icarus have always measured the same as PD however when we originally commenced in the USA, Precision were building parachutes for us under license and were doing it using their size equations and not Icarus/PD's. We have therefore had to wait to supercede these models to change the size equation. Only the Safire and Omega were affected. Blue skies Simon Icarus Canopies USA: 1S671 Bender Lane, West Chicago, IL 60185, USA Ph. (630) 562-2735, Fax (630) 231-4430 Europe: P.I. El Ramassar, c/ Vallés, s/n O8520, Les Franqueses, Barcelona, SPAIN. Ph. (34) 938 496 432, Fax (34) 938 497 971 www.icaruscanopies.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrigger1 2 #4 July 22, 2003 Please contact the Icarus Service Center in SC or the Sales office in Chicago for any info that you may need. http://www.icaruscanopies.com/contact.htm or [email protected] BS, MELSkyworks Parachute Service, LLC www.Skyworksparachuteservice.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
