kamalasound 0 #1 March 13, 2007 I have no idea if anyone of you will be in Italy on the 14 - 15 April, but we are organizing the first meet of the Italian Swoop Tour that will be held on the beaches of Anzio (exactly where the U.S. troups landed to save italians from nazism). The competition will be distance and speed and wil be held according to the FAI rules. Gates will be 1,5 metres and security issues have all been delt with. We are not understanding though if there is a prefixed distance between the 2 speed gates in order to have an appropriate measurment comparing to other competitions. I mean, we can set the gates at any distance and set the computer to have a correct speed reading but the closer they are the higher will be the speed because it measures the medium speed between the 2 gates therefore I wanted to know what is the international prefixed distance between the two gates. For more info's you can PM or send e-mail to: [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breadhead 0 #2 March 14, 2007 organizing a national swoop tour according to FAI rules, but without reading those FAI rules first ... priceless RTFM @ http://www.fai.org/parachuting/system/files?file=cpiloting_2007.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morris 0 #3 March 14, 2007 Set`em close! I`m interested in high top speeds :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamalasound 0 #4 March 14, 2007 Hey Belgium genius, if you were to read english you would notice that there is no specification of the distance between the two set of cells that will decide the correct speed. They could be at 10 20 or 30 metres distance one from the other and this would make a huge difference in average speed. We are now setting them at aprox. 15 metres and speeds are high in the 90's km/h, but if we set them further apart they will be lower obviously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamalasound 0 #5 March 14, 2007 Morris, what distance do you set them during the PST? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #6 March 14, 2007 HUH? Again, RTFM. Specifically, Addendum B. edit: BTW it's BelgiAn genius ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamalasound 0 #7 March 14, 2007 You still do not understand that the difference between the course and the distance between the cells is not clear in the rules. Just damn tell me if they have to be at 70 metres or if this is not the case. BTW there are going to be 3 FAI CP judges therefore they will set up the course. I am just wanting to know now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #8 March 14, 2007 Sjeesh. Ok I looked it up for you. It's in 5.3. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,257 #9 March 14, 2007 QuoteYou still do not understand that the difference between the course and the distance between the cells is not clear in the rules. Just damn tell me if they have to be at 70 metres or if this is not the case. "ADDENDUM B - SPEED COURSE 1. The Speed course must have an angle of 75* and be 70 metres long measured along the centreline of the course (see addendum F). The carving course must have a radius of 53.48 meters." Addendum F is a very helpful annotated diagram of a speed course. In future you might want to read the documents people give you before insulting them for trying to help. In my experience insulting people makes them much less likely to help you the next time you ask them.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamalasound 0 #10 March 14, 2007 5.3 was the point. I missunderstood the point twice while reading it. Thanks I was not insulting, I was just sure that addendum B did not give me the correct answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #11 March 14, 2007 Well good luck with the comp anyway, nice to see some more countries here getting their swoop on ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m0ng00se007 0 #12 March 14, 2007 View these two documents...maybe this will help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chayes12 0 #13 March 14, 2007 Here is another drawing for you with specific measurements to help you set up the course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kamalasound 0 #14 March 14, 2007 Thanks JT thanks Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raymod2 1 #15 March 15, 2007 See my post (the 3rd one down) at the following URL. It describes a very simple method for setting up a speed carve course. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=2355417;page=3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites