ripcord4 0 #1 July 10, 2005 I have been following the wing loading discussion here and in another forum for the past day or two. I think we can all agree that a high, aggressive wing loading has the potential to ruin your day by turning you into a grease spot on the ground. All the posts are concerned with wing loadings in excess of 1:1 - let me go the other way - what about wing loadings LESS than 1:1? For example, I have a canopy that I have calculated the WL at .63:1 . I am 175#, the rig (MC-4, 370 sq. ft.) is 50# and I've allowed 10# for all the other stuff. What are the advantages and disadvantages of this low of a WL? Basically, I'm looking for the cost - benefit ratio, so to speak. What should I be concerned about? Any hints, tips or advice (other than not jumping the military rig, please) would be appreciated. Please disregard my jump numbers and license - I am just getting back into the sport after a 20 year layoff - I consider myself a definite "newbie" and need all the help I can get! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookncrater 0 #2 July 10, 2005 Well, I'm not an instructor but I have jumped canopies loaded 0.73 and here is my take on them: 1. More susceptible to a bad spot since they have less drive into the wind. 2. Very high toggle and riser pressure, i.e. I wouldn't want to do a x-country jump at that loading since your arms would probably be too tired to flare when you made it back.________________________________________________________________________________ when in doubt... hook it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #3 July 10, 2005 There are a few problems with light loadings: 1. At _very_ light loadings (i.e. <.5 to 1) you may see deployment problems 2. You won't have much penetration power in winds 3. You may be more susceptible to turbulence; on the plus side any turbulence-related problems will happen more slowly and you will be in a better position to recover from them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caspar 0 #4 July 11, 2005 care to expand on "deployment problems??" im trying to think through the physics of all of it and i dont see how there would be a big difference..."When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #5 July 11, 2005 >care to expand on "deployment problems??" Closed end cells mainly. A larger load on the same parachute will generally cause a harder opening, and this can help inflate end cells. We had a lot of closed end cell problems when we underloaded our larger (11 cell) tandem mains. Nothing bad, just annoying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #6 July 11, 2005 FYI I jump a PD 9-cell loaded at ~.8:1 and I never get end cell closures, so it stops being a problem somewhere below that loading. Wind penetration is poor, but I don't have a collapsible PC, which would help. I'd describe the toggle pressure at my loading as "moderate". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #7 July 11, 2005 >I jump a PD 9-cell loaded at ~.8:1 and I never get end cell >closures, so it stops being a problem somewhere below that loading. Yeah, I'm thinking loadings in the .5-.6 area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyyhi 0 #8 July 11, 2005 QuoteFYI I jump a PD 9-cell loaded at ~.8:1 and I never get end cell closures, so it stops being a problem somewhere below that loading. Wind penetration is poor, but I don't have a collapsible PC, which would help. I'd describe the toggle pressure at my loading as "moderate". I was getting end cell closure on my Sabre 210 (wl of .73:1) nearly every jump. . .and very long snivels. . .I now jump much closer to 1:1 and never have this problem.________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites