GOP: Shutdown shouldn't apply to us

[rushmc 18]

quade

******http://www.pollingreport.com/budget.htm

As a whole, the Republicans are going to wind up the losers in this. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. But almost certainly the next House election.

You can hope
but the majority of the data out there does not support this view

Uhm, did you read the polls? Cause like, yeah, it does.

Ah, I am going through the one you just posted

To be honest, I am a bit surprised you posted it
and then say it supports what you just posted?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 2,463]

>Uhm, did you read the polls? Cause like, yeah, it does.

Don't get all fact-y on him.

[rushmc 18]

billvon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/10/07/National-Politics/Polling/release_269.xml

http://www.people-press.org/2013/10/07/partisans-dug-in-on-budget-health-care-impasse/

What might the result of all this be? See below:

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MEMORANDUM
Jim Williams, Public Policy Polling
RE: 24 new polls show GOP in grave danger of losing House in wake of government shutdown

If the 2014 elections were held today, Republicans would be in grave danger of losing control of the House of Representatives, according to a series of 24 surveys conducted by Public Policy Polling in Republican-held House districts over the past few days. The surveys challenge the conventional wisdom that gerrymandering has put the House out of reach for Democrats. The surveys, commissioned and paid for by MoveOn.org Political Action, show Republican incumbents behind among registered voters in head-to-head contests with generic Democratic challengers in 17 districts. In four other districts, the incumbent Republican falls behind a generic Democratic candidate after respondents are told that the Republican incumbent supported the government shutdown. In only three districts do Republican incumbents best generic Democratic challengers after voters are told the incumbent supported the government shutdown.Democrats must pick up 17 seats to win control of the House. These poll results make clear that if the election were held today, such a pickup would be well within reach.The districts where a generic Democratic challenger leads prior to any information being provided about the shutdown are:CA-31, CO-06, FL-02, FL-10, FL-13, IA-03, IA-04, IL-13, KY-06, MI-01, MI-07,MI-11, NY-19, OH-14, PA-07, PA-08, WI-07
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I like this sight better. since we know a bit more about who did the polls. 24 of them to be exact

http://front.moveon.org/24-moveon-polls-show-gop-could-lose-house-in-wake-of-shutdown/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 635]

You actually meant site.

[rushmc 18]

normiss

You actually meant site.

Ok

On another note
It is fun to read the actual polls

It looks like they got the results they were after

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[normiss 635]

IMO, that's generally how polls and statistics work.
Generally they can be massaged enough to support the desired outcome.
That's before we start discussing the truthfulness and accuracy of any poll.
Some people actually never answer them honestly.

I find it much more fun to dick up their polls.

Much like personal info areas of any document.
I still fill out the random ones as a 98 year old black lesbian.

[rushmc 18]

normiss

IMO, that's generally how polls and statistics work.
Generally they can be massaged enough to support the desired outcome.
That's before we start discussing the truthfulness and accuracy of any poll.
Some people actually never answer them honestly.

I find it much more fun to dick up their polls.

Much like personal info areas of any document.
I still fill out the random ones as a 98 year old black lesbian.

I agree
Most polls today are commsioned to create a news narrative
not report data

And that goes on all sides of anything

But I did read a the moveon.org polls

Classic!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 1,672]

SkyDekker

I am starting to wonder if rushmc is really Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf.

More like Tommy Flanagan.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[rushmc 18]

kallend

***I am starting to wonder if rushmc is really Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf.

More like Tommy Flanagan.


And this from a denying gun banner

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln