Media Propaganda at it's Best?

[CanuckInUSA 0]

I have been trying to avoid posting anything about Canada's election campaign going on right now. Trust me there have been some real doozies going on with some hardcore promises of socialist nirvana being dished up by several of the parties. But I don't want to talk about these socialist promises. I want to talk about our tax payer funded state run media and how they just gave us something today that was too much to ignore.

Turns out the CBC (who is in love with the Liberals) has decided to attempt to engineer a scandal on how the Conservative Party did NOT buy any carbon credits for all the national travel they are doing crisscrossing the nation while all the other political parties did buy their carbon credits (by the way Canada currently does NOT have a Cap n' Trade system). Oh and here is a little background on the major parties here so that you can understand their respective carbon foot prints.

1) The Conservatives are a national party and must travel across this big country.

2) The Liberals are a national party and must travel across this big country.

3) The NDP are a national party and must travel across this big country.

4) The Bloc Quebecois are a party advocating Quebec separation (why they are allowed to run in national elections is still a mystery) and the Bloc stays exclusively in Quebec. So their carbon foot print is not nearly as big as the previous three national parties.

5) The Green Party of Canada is supposed to be a national party. In fact they will be running candidates in almost every riding in this election. So they are a national party, except their leader is so obsessed about winning her seat (The Greenies have never elected an MP to Parliament) that she is not campaigning for any other of her candidates she is only driving around the riding she is desperate to win in her Prius automobile.

You can read more about this CBC scandal here:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/04/cv-election-carbon-footprint.html

Now is it just me, or does anyone else notice pollution has not changed. Everyone is going about their business polluting the country as they crisscross the nation trying to win votes. It's just that 4 of 5 parties have decided to give some money to some 3rd party people (money for nothing?) and the publicly funded state run media broadcaster is just having a field day trying to engineer a scandal.

Yeah I am sorry it is obviously just me. Everyone knows that giving someone money to make yourself feel good about polluting stops pollution. How silly of me. I guess I need to check myself into Big Red Tent where I can be properly indoctrinated into their Fabian Socialism.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[pbwing 0]

I just don't see where the CBC is engineering anything...

Sure the article mentions that the Conservatives are opting out, but that's really about it...

No ridiculous quotes from the environmentalists...

In the linked news report, they don't even mention until the end that the Conservatives are opting out. Even then, not really much of a reaction. They are making more of a point of the calculated CO2 emissions so far on the campaign.

Oh, and please, PLEASE don't refer to the fucking morons who post on the CBC Comments section as being anything but simpleton douchebags. These people give 'thumbs down' to comments expressing condolences in a related article about a family being killed in a bus crash. CBC should do away with the comments.

Edited: due to crappy grammar

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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CBC should do away with the comments.

I will agree with this. But I disagree with your assessment that the CBC isn't trying to engineer a scandal. You know presently we don't have a "Carbon Trading" system.

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[pchapman 262]

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Turns out the CBC (who is in love with the Liberals)

I know the CBC has sometimes been seen as a little bit leftie, but how did you find them in the old days when Liberals like Jean Chretien or Paul Martin ran the country? Weren't they really critical of the incumbent then too? I thought so but wasn't paying close attention to what the CBC's overall bias might be. So I'm "just asking".

And at least the article wasn't on the main CBC news page, but in one of the smaller font sections down at the bottom of the Politics page. For what that's worth.
(At least this was true when I checked this evening Apr 4.)

[pbwing 0]

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "carbon trading" system...

At the end of the day, if you calculate up the total CO2 emissions expected for the entire campaign for all the parties, it totals up to less than $100,000.00

If people are getting their panties in a bunch about $100,000.00 being used to offset (or not offset) CO2 emissions, they need to spend their time in a more constructive way.

I'm more pissed that they make all the grand claims about offsetting CO2, then they use the taxpayer money given to the parties to pay for the offsets. Time to do away with federal funding for the political parties.

Harper, Ignatieff, Layton...want to impress me? Pay for these offsets out of your own pay. Or at least commit that it will be funded by the party and not with taxpayer money.

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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And at least the article wasn't on the main CBC news page

You are correct. It was temporarily one of their top stories but has since been relegated to the rest of the side stories (probably because it did not gain the traction they were hoping for). Presently their two top stories on the election page are:

- "Ignatieff slams Harper over ex-aide's convictions"
- "McGuinty demands equal treatment from Ottawa"

McGuilty is whining ... good grief ...

This may be hard for some of you to believe but there is a Liberal I like and I really wish he would step up to the plate and stop some of the nonsense. The Liberal I like is John Manley. I didn't give him much credit when he was in office, but now compared to the current batch of Liberals I see Mr Manley was a class act. But as I said in my first post I didn't want to talk about the Canadian election. They all suck, every last one of them. Some just suck a lot more than the others.

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[CanuckInUSA 0]

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I'm more pissed that they make all the grand claims about offsetting CO2, then they use the taxpayer money given to the parties to pay for the offsets. Time to do away with federal funding for the political parties.

Hey that's a few more things we can agree on. Who would have thunk it.

The Bloc Quebecois would not be the Bloc Quebecois if this federal voter funding was not there and yes impress me by spending your own money, not the tax payers money.

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[pbwing 0]

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. They all suck, every last one of them. Some just suck a lot more than the others.

True. But at least our run-ups don't last 2+ years. Christ, can you imagine these morons babbling on and on for 2 yrs? 5 week election and it's over. Wohoo!!

So what do you think? Another Conservative minority? It will be interesting, but I don't think they can get enough seats for a majority.

Here's what I'd like to see happen. I think it'll be another Conservative minority. If that's the case, I think Iggy and Stewy have to resign. It's obvious that neither party will win a majority with them as leaders.

Maybe Jim Flaherty as Conservative leader? Maybe this guy as Liberal leader?

[aphid 0]

Dryden?

[pbwing 0]

:)

OK, I'm not being serious John...

BUT, what if he was

Lots of seats in Ontario...lots of seats in Quebec....lots of seats in Eastern Canada.

And as plenty of 70s and 80s elections showed us, that's all that's needed for a majority in this country.

I don't think he'd want it. His first leadership run was a bit of a dud. And the 2nd never got off the ground after Iggy was appointed with no opposition. I think he saw the real politics within the party itself and it left a bad taste in his mouth.

Yet, 9 years in the league...6 Stanley Cups...

[CanuckInUSA 0]

Make no mistake this election will be decided by the people of Ontario (905ers possibly even 416ers). Quebec will be mostly Bloc except for Montreal (Liberal) and the Conservatives might hold on to a few QC seats (they are right leaning people). Maritimes will be a mixture of Conservative (rural MPs) and Liberal (urban MPs). Manitobia will be a mixture of Conservative, Liberal and NDP. Saskatchewan should mostly be Conservative (Ralph may hold on to his Regina seat who knows). Alberta will be Conservative (no brainer), even the Edmonton riding should go back to Conservative after what Jack said in Quebec about the Oil Sands. Rural BC should be Conservative (thanks to the gun registry) and the lower mainland will be mostly NDP with some Conservative (I think the NDP will shutout the Liberals). Not sure about Vancouver Island. Probably a mixture of Conservative and Liberal. Will Lizzy May get her seat? Depends on the activist vote.

The betting man says another Conservative minority and more dysfunction in parliament. But a majority is possible if the 905ers and some Maritimers switch sides. The Conservatives don't need Quebec if Quebec is mostly Bloc.

LOL ... conspiracy theory time.

I think Igantieff is purposely setting himself up to fail (he may not even win his own riding). I think the Liberals know they don't have a hope in hell in winning more seats than the Conservatives. I think the Liberals are actually trying to steal votes away from the Greenies and the NDP and take their voter subsidy money. Ignatieff goes back to Boston and the Liberal's messiah Justin Trudeau takes over (after Bob Rae has some time as interim leader). In this conspiracy scenario the NDP is broke, Greenies are broke ... nation eventually gets sick of the Conservatives (they can't rule for ever) and the Liberals have their messiah waiting in the wind. Of course this is one big conspiracy theory of mine.

I liked Ken Dryden the goalie. But Ken is too angry as a politician. Dominik Leblanc might be a John Manley type of guy (not sure) in which case he would be easier to stomach than Trudeau JR. The thing about the Trudeau brand. He may be a God in Montreal and Toronto (possibly the maritimes too), but the Trudeau brand does not go over well in parts of Quebec and Western Canada.

If Ignatieff is not purposely trying to tank his campaign and he actually wins (I can't see it, not with the present polls), he better watch what he does with this promised "Cap 'N Trade" system. There are still patriotic Canadians in the West, but we won't stand for Ignatieff destroying the Oil Sands. Canada needs to Oil Sands to pay for equalization. Ignatieff better not try to cut off the hand that will pay for all of his socialism. Therefore I am hoping the 905ers come in and save the day.

So much for not talking about the election.

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