Ion01 1 #1 October 6, 2009 QuoteConfirmed: White House Passed Out White Coats To Docs October, 6, 2009 — nicedeb astroturf to the end NOLA.com Commenters at Big Government, yesterday were skeptical about the sea of white lab coats seen in the audience of the White House lawn for the President’s public option photo op, yesterday.: •Physicians do NOT wear their labcoats outside of the hospital or office. This is a GOTCHA. I also do NOT know of any of my physician associates who support Obamas health plan. •I was married to a doctor and spent countless hours around them, and when I saw that picture I just thought “HOLY SH!T I’m living in the new soviet union.” While I have no doubt that Obama had no trouble finding a flock of single payer doctors to show up for his photo op, I do think it’s funny that the White House was desperate enough to pass out white lab coats to make the photo op perfectly-perfect. A sea of 150 white-coated doctors, all enthusiastically supportive of the president and representing all 50 states, looked as if they were at a costume party as they posed in the Rose Garden before hearing Obama’s pitch for the Democratic overhaul bills moving through Congress. The physicians, all invited guests, were told to bring their white lab coats to make sure that TV cameras captured the image. But some docs apparently forgot, failing to meet the White House dress code by showing up in business suits or dresses. So the White House rustled up white coats for them and handed them to the suited physicians who had taken seats in the sun-splashed lawn area. ‘You look very spiffy in your coats.’ Obama told the group of doctors after his aides had handed out a great many of them. Getting little media attention, last month, hundreds of anti-Obamacare doctors also demonstrated in DC… You may have heard of doctors who greedily amputate legs, and tear out tonsils when it’s not necessary…that would be these guys: More on the September 10th Doctors Against Obamacare March at El Marco’s. http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/confirmed-white-house-passed-out-white-coats-to-docs/ The government is obviously so trustworthy and honest as also demonstrated by the story of Otto Raddatz so caringly told by obama. QuoteCheck out the strange case of Otto Raddatz. According to Mr. Pants On Fire: "One man from Illinois lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy because his insurer found that he hadn’t reported gallstones that he didn’t even know about. They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it.” Except that Raddatz's coverage never lapsed. It all got worked out, without a lapse in coverage. And his life was extended by three-and-a-half years. Repeat: his insurance coverage never lapsed while they were working out the details. NEVER LAPSED. Treatment went on. No delay. He did not die because of delayed treatment due to this incident. That's according to a sworn statement from his sister. I think its obvious we can trust the government to run healthcare. Obviously, the government officials put on the panels to determine care will obviously be concerned about what is best. Take Ezekiel Emanuel views: Quote Under Dr. Emanuel’s way of thinking they have to give up their health care so it will be more affordable to provide care for the younger more worthy members of society. Dr Emanuel’s views have been widely published and leave little doubt as to what he would like to see instituted as health-care reform in America. Dr. Emmanuel has said in his writings "Savings will require changing how doctors think about their patients. Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath too seriously and use it as an imperative to do everything for the patient regardless of the cost or effects on others" (Journal of the American Medical Association, June 18, 2008).He believes that a doctor should look beyond the needs of their patients and consider social justice, such as whether the money could be better spent on somebody else. Or David Blumental: QuoteBlumenthal is a long time advocate of government health-spending controls, though he concedes they’re "associated with longer waits" and "reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices" (New England Journal of Medicine, March 8, 2001). But he states that it is "debatable" whether the timely care Americans get is worth the cost. If you have cancer at a stage 2 would you want to wait untill it is at stage four before you could obtain treatment? Think about it. Thats right.....we need social justice and the more worthy need healthcare first! This is whats best! More for Emanuel: Quoteservices provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia. A less obvious example Is is guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason. How about our Sceince Czar John Holdren: QuoteIn a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that: • Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not; • The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food; • Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise; • People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized. • A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force. Sounds great doesn't it! Quote"The development of a long-term sterilizing capsule that could be implanted under the skin and removed when pregnancy is desired opens the additional possibilities for coercive fertility control." "The capsule could be implanted at puberty and might be removable, with official permission, for a limited number of births." Or how about the founder of planned parenthood:Quote“In the United States socialist writer Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood and the mother of the abortion movement, called for a radical eugenics approach as early as the first years of the 20th century. She wrote of the need for “a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring. It is a vicious cycle; ignorance breeds poverty and poverty breeds ignorance. There is only one cure for both, and that is to stop breeding these things.” Ever hear of the great idea called Eugenics and how it started here in america? If not you are missing a lot! QuoteThe U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the 1927 Buck v. Bell case that the state of Virginia could sterilize those it thought unfit. The most significant era of eugenic sterilization was between 1907 and 1963, when over 64,000 individuals were forcibly sterilized under eugenic legislation in the United States.[63] A favorable report on the results of sterilization in California, the state with the most sterilizations by far, was published in book form by the biologist Paul Popenoe and was widely cited by the Nazi government as evidence that wide-reaching sterilization programs were feasible and humane. When Nazi administrators went on trial for war crimes in Nuremberg after World War II, they justified the mass sterilizations (over 450,000 in less than a decade) by citing the United States as their inspiration.[59] American eugenicists inspired and supported Hitler's racial purification laws, and failed to understand the connection between those policies and the eventual genocide of the Holocaust.[64] WIKI QuoteHitler: “There is today one state, Hitler wrote, in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of immigration] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States." What else does Holdren want outside of healthcare? Well, he has some more great ideas! Quote"Perhaps those agencies, combined with UNEP and the United Nations population agencies, might eventually be developed into a Planetary Regime--sort of an international superagency for population, resources, and environment. Such a comprehensive Planetary Regime could control the development, administration, conservation, and distribution of all natural resources, renewable or nonrenewable, at least insofar as international implications exist. Thus the Regime could have the power to control pollution not only in the atmosphere and oceans, but also in such freshwater bodies as rivers and lakes that cross international boundaries or that discharge into the oceans. The Regime might also be a logical central agency for regulating all international trade, perhaps including assistance from DCs to LDCs, and including all food on the international market." "The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries' shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits." But this could never happen here (even though it has)......its the united states...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #2 October 6, 2009 Do you know how much ass those guys guy for wearing their doctors coats outside that day? I mean there is hating.....and then there is hating. I wish engineers got to wear cool lab coats like that! I mean hell what's our pick up line? Hi can i do a free body diagram of your boobies? I mean really!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 1 #3 October 6, 2009 Dude! I wear my lab coat all the time! Check Me out: http://d3xt3r.net/images/dexter1.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #4 October 6, 2009 Shirt and tie here.....but I think I'll have to go to the old lab cote. If nothing I can go commando and impress the non existent hot engineering chicks!Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #5 October 6, 2009 I have a lab coat. (And no, you cannot have or borrow it.) Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 1 #6 October 6, 2009 Those engineering chicks may not be hot but they are desprate! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #7 October 6, 2009 So what was the astroturf reference about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shah269 0 #8 October 6, 2009 Quote Those engineering chicks may not be hot but they are desprate! I don't know man, sure they are desperate but man I just can't push rope. But I'll give it the old collage try! As for the lab coat, yeah I've never worked in a lab but i need one.Life through good thoughts, good words, and good deeds is necessary to ensure happiness and to keep chaos at bay. The only thing that falls from the sky is birdshit and fools! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #9 October 6, 2009 QuoteI wish engineers got to wear cool lab coats like that! I have a white conductive filament smock that resembles a lab coat, does that count? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #10 October 6, 2009 QuoteSo what was the astroturf reference about? I took it to mean the look was faked. 'Here's your perfectly trimmed, evergreen grass to play on.' 'Here's your stereotypical image of a doctor that we all recognize volunteering to back my opinions.' -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #11 October 7, 2009 Yeah, AstroTurf sucks, at least the old varieties. Like playing on cement covered by a thin layer of super cheap indoor-outdoor carpeting. That's all you'll get from me because that post is way too long. How about shortening them up a bit?" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
