aa1b 0 #1 September 19, 2001 Lets not get our hopes to high but this was just released and it looks good!From AOPA... The map reveals most sports venues and airspace around military bases remains a no go - but overall it looks as though VFR flying is about to resume :) FAA to issue notam permitting some VFR operations today 9/19/01 1:30:03 PM, ET — AOPA has learned that FAA will issue a notam today between 4 and 6 p.m. ET that will permit the resumption of some VFR operations. AOPA President Phil Boyer has talked at length with FAA Administrator Jane Garvey and the head of FAA's Air Traffic Services. They had just come from a meeting with Department of Defense and national security officials. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #2 September 19, 2001 The USPA is hard at work too (and you always thought they didn't do anything...)---------Airspace Update (9/19/01)A new FAA Notam is expected between 4 PM and 6 PM EDT today, after the FAA coordinates the details with their Flight Service Stations. USPA will post the new information as soon as we receive it. We are now informed that some restrictions will be lifted today, with others following as the threat is reassessed on an hour by hour basis at the White House. We will post changes on this site as they occur.USPA continues to stay fully engaged with the FAA, National Security Council, and Department of Defense in an effort to restore general aviation VFR flight, in general, and skydiving operations in particular. Our message to the national leadership has been that skydiving operations, unlike most other VFR operations, are under close supervision and in continual communication with air traffic control. Furthermore, skydiving aircraft remain in the immediate vicinity of the airport from which they operate, thereby posing little threat to major urban areas from which they are restricted.Meanwhile, USPA has started gathering economic impact data to present at upcoming Congressional hearings on how the restrictions have harmed the aviation industry. We are also investigating how skydiving businesses may benefit from the bailout bill being considered by Congress for aviation businesses.Then, I saw these two guys swoopin across the pond, and I was like 'weeeeeee!!!!' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #3 September 19, 2001 AOPA has a more recent update. Should be interesting to see what SOME VFR being restored means. Also find it interesting that flight training is somehow threatening to the government.The Dutchboyhttp://www.geocities.com/ppolstra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 #4 September 19, 2001 This was taken from an aviation news group, as the poster stated take it with a grain of salt....QuoteJust got off the phone with AOPA. Of course, all this is unofficial thus far,take it with a grain of salt, but here's what I was told:Sometime between 1 pm and 4 pm (Eastern time) today, a NOTAM will go out liftingthe ban on VFR COMPLETELY, with only a few restrictions:1. No flight instruction2. No VFR into Class B3. There will be some modification to the definition of Class B: it will nolonger be an "inverted wedding cake", instead it will be a straight cylinder,with the upper ring going all the way down to the surface. The details of thiswere sketchy, sodon't quote me on the detailsHe implied the restrictions would be temporaryI was told it would be effective immediately upon issuing the NOTAM.As I said, this is unoffical, so don't fire up the engines and taxi out justyet, but this is the most positive thing I've heard for a while. I sure hope itturns out to be true. I'm crossing my fingers and toes. Stay tuned for moredetails.-D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freaksister 0 #5 September 19, 2001 OK - So what is a class B? Wedding cake? Cylinder? HEY its Wednesday that means happy hour...which means we can bitch in real time about all this! woohoo!But seriously, would somebody please explain the previous post to me...? ThanksSisI lust for the ultimate rush... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outthere 0 #6 September 19, 2001 Class B airspace = airspace over maior airports such as LAX, SFO Washington DC Chicago etc. This is the most restrictive and controlled airspace accessible to civilian aviation.The airspace is set up like an upside down wedding cake in that the higher up you go the larger air space it covers.Quote3. There will be some modification to the definition of Class B: it will nolonger be an "inverted wedding cake", instead it will be a straight cylinder,with the upper ring going all the way down to the surface. The details of thiswere sketchy, sodon't quote me on the detailsIf this is true it will be interesting to see how they handle things in places like here in the Bay Area and other major metro areas where class B airspace sits over top of many other airports with their own Class C or D airspace.e Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #7 September 19, 2001 QuoteHEY its Wednesday that means happy hour...which means we can bitch in real time about all this! woohoo!We've been doing that in Slappie's chat room for about the last 6 hours. JustinMy Homepage Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outthere 0 #8 September 19, 2001 OK so my copmuter was behaving badly and I couldn't quite get the explanation out as well as I wanted to on that last post. Currently - or at least before last week class B and class C airspace looked something like this with the bottom line representing the ground:----------------| |---------------| |----------| |-----The new restrictions would make it look like:------------| || || |-------------hope that helpse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
