mjosparky 3 #26 October 24, 2008 Quote wow way to run an cry to the FAA/USPA. Seems really low to me, especially considering the demo seemed to be successful, no one or nothing was hurt (except your ego). Remind me to stay away from your DZ lol don't want to get arrested by the USPA police. Don't be a hater skycop You need to wake up and take a large dose of reality. Just because you get away with doing something stupid does not change the fact it is stupid. Graveyards are full of people that thought just like you do. Sparky http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/mjosparky/STUPID.jpgMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #27 October 26, 2008 Quote Kevin, you get one demerit. Well you know why North Texas is windy? Oklahoma sucks! I know, I went thru the May 3rd 1999 F5! And that's also for your inability to press one button on your phone! 2 demerits my friend. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #28 October 27, 2008 30 MPH gusty winds is certainly not compatible with a demo jump in a stadium even with fast parachute. Not only jumping in those conditions is against BSRs but a high wind passing over and around obstacles makes "rollers" or vortex which are completely unseen. If the air passing over obstacles has to go up at some places, at other places the same air goes down. That can create a negative angle of attack followed by a sudden depressurization of the parachute cells and a stall. There is always a pressure on the jumpers doing a demo jump since money is involved and they also want to perform for future contract in mind. But when an accident happens, the unaware public will hear nothing about bad conditions and will consider the jumpers as not professional giving to the face of the world a very bad impression about skydiving. We really don't need that kind of bad publicity.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #29 October 27, 2008 There is always a pressure on the jumpers doing a demo jump since money is involved and they also want to perform for future contract in mind. But when an accident happens, the unaware public will hear nothing about bad conditions and will consider the jumpers as not professional giving to the face of the world a very bad impression about skydiving. We really don't need that kind of bad publicity. Quote How true~ On the other hand, if performance parameters are thoroughly explained to the promoter prior to the jump...with an emphasis on the safety aspect, I've never had a negative reaction regarding a decision to stand down. In fact, at one airshow the decision to stand down because of questionable conditions was sited as the reason for a continued contract with that organizer...he definitely recognized the safety first mentality as a necessary & positive part of our program. Stadiums are especially difficult not only for the reasons you cited, but also because once committed and on approach, there are no outs. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydived19006 4 #30 October 30, 2008 QuoteNot only jumping in those conditions is against BSRs ... No BSR regarding wind speed for licensed skydivers, even for a demo. You may be thinking of the suggestions in section 7 of the SIM? Everything outside of section 2 (BSRs) are suggestions (BSRs are really suggestions too, but the USPA will pull ratings if so deemed appropriate), and therefore no enforcement. Also, no FARs regarding wind speed for skydiving.Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
skydived19006 4 #30 October 30, 2008 QuoteNot only jumping in those conditions is against BSRs ... No BSR regarding wind speed for licensed skydivers, even for a demo. You may be thinking of the suggestions in section 7 of the SIM? Everything outside of section 2 (BSRs) are suggestions (BSRs are really suggestions too, but the USPA will pull ratings if so deemed appropriate), and therefore no enforcement. Also, no FARs regarding wind speed for skydiving.Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
