ntrprnr 0 #1 February 19, 2007 Now you'll get something like 4386 channels in your car. Story here: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=2887179_______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2fat2fly 0 #2 February 19, 2007 As long as they keep Simply SinatraI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityJunky 0 #3 February 19, 2007 XM/Sirius to Merge So are Cocheese & LadyFlyer!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSkiesKel 0 #4 February 19, 2007 QuoteNow you'll get something like 4386 channels in your car. Story here: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=2887179 thats awesome, i have xm, love it, cant go wrong with more channels of country music in my car Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #5 February 19, 2007 QuoteSo are Cocheese & LadyFlyer! And Bolas and Bubbles And Turtle and Swedecelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerm 0 #6 February 19, 2007 just how can that get past anti-trust regulations? oh wait i forgot that public officials are for sale.... silly jerm Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ntrprnr 0 #7 February 19, 2007 Quotejust how can that get past anti-trust regulations? oh wait i forgot that public officials are for sale.... silly jerm they're the only ones in the space. they're not forcing the market - there is no other market currently._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goodnplentygirl 0 #8 February 19, 2007 Do you think the price will go up? I dont mind paying the $14 or whatever a month for XM, but I really dont want to pay more for both... my body, my choice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ntrprnr 0 #9 February 19, 2007 QuoteDo you think the price will go up? I dont mind paying the $14 or whatever a month for XM, but I really dont want to pay more for both... nah. will probably wind up going down, to tell the truth_______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnnyD 0 #10 February 19, 2007 This has large suck potential. I have both - love Sirius / hate XM. I hope it turns out good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerm 0 #11 February 19, 2007 so.. the only 2 players in the market merge to leave only 1 player in the market... leaving the remaining entity with complete domination of said market and 0 choice for the consumer.... how is that not anit-trust? Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #12 February 19, 2007 Does this mean my Sirius stock might finally be worth something? "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityJunky 0 #13 February 19, 2007 So are Cocheese & LadyFlyer! And Bolas and Bubbles And Turtle and Swedecelt ------------ and Stitch & Stitches left hand!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #14 February 19, 2007 Quotethey're the only ones in the space. they're not forcing the market - there is no other market currently. I remember something about EchoStar (Dish Network)and Directv trying to Merge a few years ago and I think Anti-trust is what stopped them. How is this going to be different?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityJunky 0 #15 February 19, 2007 Good point watch the monthly fees, break thru the roof!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ntrprnr 0 #16 February 19, 2007 Quoteso.. the only 2 players in the market merge to leave only 1 player in the market... leaving the remaining entity with complete domination of said market and 0 choice for the consumer.... how is that not anit-trust? Different kettle of fish. Consumer never had any options at all in satellite radio - option was $14.95 or $14.95, or regular radio. Consumer isn't gonna get hurt here. The majority of the money XM/Sirius spent they did for advertising/beating back the other player/hiring howard stern. They won't have to do that as much this time._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Thanatos340 1 #17 February 19, 2007 QuoteDifferent kettle of fish. Consumer never had any options at all in satellite radio - option was $14.95 or $14.95, or regular radio. Consumer isn't gonna get hurt here. Same argement that was made for the Sattellite TV merger a few years ago.. In fact in their case they claim the real competition was Cable not even each other. didnt work then. Quoted straight from the article linked.., "The merger would require regulatory approval as well as anti-trust scrutiny. Kevin Martin, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, reportedly said last month that a merger could not be approved under current FCC regulations." Sounds like this one has a ways to go before it really happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityJunky 0 #18 February 19, 2007 Different kettle of fish. Consumer never had any options at all in satellite radio - option was $14.95 or $14.95, or regular radio. Consumer isn't gonna get hurt here. The majority of the money XM/Sirius spent they did for advertising/beating back the other player/hiring howard stern. They won't have to do that as much this time. --------------Not really, for how many years, as the sole long distance provider did AT&T, (decades ago) rape us, charging $0.65 & upwards a minute, for the service, only now with all the competition, provide the same for; @$0.05 or less p/min with the unlimited LD packages, & Still making profits. Can you image what kind of profit they were making on us @ $0.65 & up p/min factoring in the economy of the time 20-30 yrs ago?*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerm 0 #19 February 19, 2007 how does 2 companies offerting competing products equate to no options? same price? sure. same product? .. that i can't answer, but how is it better for the consumer to not even have the guise of competition by there being mroe than 1 player in a market? right now there are double as many options as what they're proposing. please explain. Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BlueSkiesKel 0 #20 February 19, 2007 ya know i dont really care, as long as the price doesnt change, and no more freakin "commercials" sneak in to the damn stations.. does anyone else notice these stupid commercials sneaking in on what is SUPPOSED to be commercial free stations! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityJunky 0 #21 February 19, 2007 does anyone else notice these stupid commercials sneaking in on what is SUPPOSED to be commercial free stations! Yea, but then I'm not sure if you are old enough to recall, that, that was the same, Bullshit line they used 30yrs ago to 'reason' why we would pay large monthly fees for cable TV, to offset the lack of advertisement income netted, due to the supposed claim that the 'greater majority' of the stations, would be Commercial free! Fuckers!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eman 0 #22 February 19, 2007 Whay would ANYONE want a company that overpays Howard Stern $ 500 million? SIRI is at $3.70. Down from $ 8. All since Stern. I hope they go broke !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jerm 0 #23 February 19, 2007 that's just the point, tho... if your provider starts inserting commercials, you can switch. regardless of price, what happens when there is nobody to switch to? if you're relying on the benevolence of your corporate masters to convince them that since they have all the business they don't need to squeeze you any more with addition ad revenue, think again. remember, in the publicly traded world, it's not about how much money you make, it about how much MORE you make. profit $1billion 3 years in a row and your stock will go down because you didn't grow, nevermind you have $3billion extra in your pockets. so sure, they may not raise the price, but they have to keep raising profits somehow. Money says that if they merge they find some way of justifying more commercials for the same price, or offer an upgraded "premium" commercial-free service for $5 more/month Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ntrprnr 0 #24 February 19, 2007 I think this is only the beginning. I think we'll wind up seeing this consolidation move to other things - i.e., got XMS (which would be a cool name for the two) Well then, you also qualify for Verizon phone service and Time Warner Cable... Not saying it's good or bad - just thinking what it'll be._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BlueSkiesKel 0 #25 February 19, 2007 i agree with gravityjunky fuckers, i hate commercials! jerm stop bitching about "no options" start up your own satellite radio company and we'll use yours but in all seriousness i'm sure another company will emerge.. its inevitable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Thanatos340 1 #5 February 19, 2007 QuoteSo are Cocheese & LadyFlyer! And Bolas and Bubbles And Turtle and Swedecelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm 0 #6 February 19, 2007 just how can that get past anti-trust regulations? oh wait i forgot that public officials are for sale.... silly jerm Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #7 February 19, 2007 Quotejust how can that get past anti-trust regulations? oh wait i forgot that public officials are for sale.... silly jerm they're the only ones in the space. they're not forcing the market - there is no other market currently._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goodnplentygirl 0 #8 February 19, 2007 Do you think the price will go up? I dont mind paying the $14 or whatever a month for XM, but I really dont want to pay more for both... my body, my choice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #9 February 19, 2007 QuoteDo you think the price will go up? I dont mind paying the $14 or whatever a month for XM, but I really dont want to pay more for both... nah. will probably wind up going down, to tell the truth_______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #10 February 19, 2007 This has large suck potential. I have both - love Sirius / hate XM. I hope it turns out good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm 0 #11 February 19, 2007 so.. the only 2 players in the market merge to leave only 1 player in the market... leaving the remaining entity with complete domination of said market and 0 choice for the consumer.... how is that not anit-trust? Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #12 February 19, 2007 Does this mean my Sirius stock might finally be worth something? "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityJunky 0 #13 February 19, 2007 So are Cocheese & LadyFlyer! And Bolas and Bubbles And Turtle and Swedecelt ------------ and Stitch & Stitches left hand!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #14 February 19, 2007 Quotethey're the only ones in the space. they're not forcing the market - there is no other market currently. I remember something about EchoStar (Dish Network)and Directv trying to Merge a few years ago and I think Anti-trust is what stopped them. How is this going to be different?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityJunky 0 #15 February 19, 2007 Good point watch the monthly fees, break thru the roof!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #16 February 19, 2007 Quoteso.. the only 2 players in the market merge to leave only 1 player in the market... leaving the remaining entity with complete domination of said market and 0 choice for the consumer.... how is that not anit-trust? Different kettle of fish. Consumer never had any options at all in satellite radio - option was $14.95 or $14.95, or regular radio. Consumer isn't gonna get hurt here. The majority of the money XM/Sirius spent they did for advertising/beating back the other player/hiring howard stern. They won't have to do that as much this time._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #17 February 19, 2007 QuoteDifferent kettle of fish. Consumer never had any options at all in satellite radio - option was $14.95 or $14.95, or regular radio. Consumer isn't gonna get hurt here. Same argement that was made for the Sattellite TV merger a few years ago.. In fact in their case they claim the real competition was Cable not even each other. didnt work then. Quoted straight from the article linked.., "The merger would require regulatory approval as well as anti-trust scrutiny. Kevin Martin, chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, reportedly said last month that a merger could not be approved under current FCC regulations." Sounds like this one has a ways to go before it really happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityJunky 0 #18 February 19, 2007 Different kettle of fish. Consumer never had any options at all in satellite radio - option was $14.95 or $14.95, or regular radio. Consumer isn't gonna get hurt here. The majority of the money XM/Sirius spent they did for advertising/beating back the other player/hiring howard stern. They won't have to do that as much this time. --------------Not really, for how many years, as the sole long distance provider did AT&T, (decades ago) rape us, charging $0.65 & upwards a minute, for the service, only now with all the competition, provide the same for; @$0.05 or less p/min with the unlimited LD packages, & Still making profits. Can you image what kind of profit they were making on us @ $0.65 & up p/min factoring in the economy of the time 20-30 yrs ago?*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm 0 #19 February 19, 2007 how does 2 companies offerting competing products equate to no options? same price? sure. same product? .. that i can't answer, but how is it better for the consumer to not even have the guise of competition by there being mroe than 1 player in a market? right now there are double as many options as what they're proposing. please explain. Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSkiesKel 0 #20 February 19, 2007 ya know i dont really care, as long as the price doesnt change, and no more freakin "commercials" sneak in to the damn stations.. does anyone else notice these stupid commercials sneaking in on what is SUPPOSED to be commercial free stations! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityJunky 0 #21 February 19, 2007 does anyone else notice these stupid commercials sneaking in on what is SUPPOSED to be commercial free stations! Yea, but then I'm not sure if you are old enough to recall, that, that was the same, Bullshit line they used 30yrs ago to 'reason' why we would pay large monthly fees for cable TV, to offset the lack of advertisement income netted, due to the supposed claim that the 'greater majority' of the stations, would be Commercial free! Fuckers!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eman 0 #22 February 19, 2007 Whay would ANYONE want a company that overpays Howard Stern $ 500 million? SIRI is at $3.70. Down from $ 8. All since Stern. I hope they go broke !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm 0 #23 February 19, 2007 that's just the point, tho... if your provider starts inserting commercials, you can switch. regardless of price, what happens when there is nobody to switch to? if you're relying on the benevolence of your corporate masters to convince them that since they have all the business they don't need to squeeze you any more with addition ad revenue, think again. remember, in the publicly traded world, it's not about how much money you make, it about how much MORE you make. profit $1billion 3 years in a row and your stock will go down because you didn't grow, nevermind you have $3billion extra in your pockets. so sure, they may not raise the price, but they have to keep raising profits somehow. Money says that if they merge they find some way of justifying more commercials for the same price, or offer an upgraded "premium" commercial-free service for $5 more/month Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ntrprnr 0 #24 February 19, 2007 I think this is only the beginning. I think we'll wind up seeing this consolidation move to other things - i.e., got XMS (which would be a cool name for the two) Well then, you also qualify for Verizon phone service and Time Warner Cable... Not saying it's good or bad - just thinking what it'll be._______________ "Why'd you track away at 7,000 feet?" "Even in freefall, I have commitment issues." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueSkiesKel 0 #25 February 19, 2007 i agree with gravityjunky fuckers, i hate commercials! jerm stop bitching about "no options" start up your own satellite radio company and we'll use yours but in all seriousness i'm sure another company will emerge.. its inevitable Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
