Martini 0 #1 May 12, 2004 I ran across this at an accuracy meet recently. The container had attachment points (one or two, I can't remember) in the main pack tray at the bottom of the reserve container. The D-bag had corresponding rubber bands that hooked to those points. The concept being that the D-bag is held in the container if the pin comes out but the pc isn't deployed. Seems simple, doesn't add much to packing chores and is the only system I have ever heard of to retain the bag. I can't describe any details because the rig was packed. The container was Canadian made, I don't know the manufacturer. Seems like something that could be added to any rig, the attachment points being the only puzzle.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nutz 0 #2 May 12, 2004 Isn't a pull out an anti horshoe device? It seems simpler to me, if the pin gets pulled the pilot chute comes out. "Don't! Get! Eliminated!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #3 May 13, 2004 QuoteIsn't a pull out an anti horshoe device? It seems simpler to me, if the pin gets pulled the pilot chute comes out. A pullout can help prevent horseshoes but has it's own quirks (floating handle, fussy bridle routing) and isn't always appropriate (wingsuits). It is less popular than a throwout by far, not a single one at our DZ. A pullout can horseshoe anyway (no system is horseshoe-proof) so the bag retainer bands would still help. This system is clearly not without it's own issues such as line entanglement and less likelyhood of a bridle assisted deployment in case of an uncocked pc but it seems to have merit.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JumpCrazy 0 #4 May 13, 2004 I think one of the problems with this is if there was more than one rubber band. With 2 bands, they would need to release at the same instant or they would likely cause linetwists. Obviously this would be a non-issue on the accuracy equipment you speak of.Flying Hellfish #470 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #5 May 13, 2004 You were probably inspecting a Concept harness/container made by Ron Dionne at Sky World Specialties in Campbell River, half way up the East Coast of Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada. This is similar to a modification I heard about for tandem rigs. Do you remember the problems we used to have with broken closing loops until manufacturers insisted on the current 1500 (?) pound Spectra closing loops? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
