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On 7/29/2020 at 3:46 AM, NewGuy2005 said:

There's some truth right there!

Well he’s on his way back to the UK. Pretty much drove me out of my own home. Sunday I get my house back! 
I have spent the last few weeks at a friends house. My son also stayed with friends. I came home tonight to rubbish literally all over the kitchen can’t even use the stove as it’s piled with shit and rubbish strewn all over the kitchen floor. Pots with mould growing out of them. 

20 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Note to all. The blocking options include the ability to block PMs.

Yeah, but we are sliding into a state where there isn’t much substance on the forum. One or two people persist in being total arseholes and all sensible debate and discussion gets lost in the noise.

Take the one liners to PM’s or ignore and don’t engage.

There are 2 pages of comments and it didn’t even make it through one page of substance.I don’t expect the mods to be able to keep up with the amount of childish shit that is happening. 

11 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

So, do you think its fair to say that they want control over the data then?

(They = The Gubmint)

First of all, I’m not in the USA so the whole US national security issue is a non issue to me. Secondly at a personal level I do t trust the US government any more than I do the Chinese (the US has a long history of ignoring privacy concerns and trampling all over European data protection laws)

I know full well that Google, Apple  and Facebook collect and exploit data. I have some confidence though that while they exploit it for commercial reasons it is unlikely to be used by governments for tracking and other negative reasons. 
Tik-Tok to me poses a dual threat. Firstly there are known links to China, but I also don’t trust the US government. Being a non US company and platform I can easily see the US exploiting that and harvesting data in the interests of “national security”. The US has proven it has little respect for international law and privacy, I don’t need shit if I need to go to the US and they decide that sharing anti Trump videos etc makes me a risk...

6 hours ago, mistercwood said:

I honestly haven't kept up with the political side of things, but from a security perspective I lean towards "erase Tiktok from existence ASAP". Every cyber-security opinion I've read on it screams that it's doing data-harvesting on a way bigger scale than anything Facebook or Google are doing, but with barely a fraction of the transparency. Not remotely trustworthy.

I agree. Think there is enough evidence to show it isn’t an app that I want 

On 9/19/2020 at 2:23 AM, JerryBaumchen said:

Hi Coreece,

Re:  'So far all I have is:

- Not the one woman man type

- Lacks a sense of humor'

That shows how little you know of me.  As I would expect; and as it should be.

Re:  'Good thing this isn't a dating profile. . .'

I never came here for that.  Did you?

Jerry Baumchen

At least you know not to invite him to your next orgy

1 hour ago, turtlespeed said:

I was referring to the image that I posted earlier of HRC. Post 28.

In a nutshell, sh claimed it would be dishonoring the constitution if you don't vote in a new SCJ before the election.  Of course - Obama was president then. I'm pretty sure the opinion has now flipped over a flop.

You are probably right about the rest - I went off memory and didn't fact check myself.

Of course Mitch hasn’t flipped at all. I’m surprised you aren’t embarrassed by your hypocrisy 

1 hour ago, jakee said:

Have you ever considered reading an article? You never know, you might enjoy being informed about a subject before you spout off. Stranger things have happened.

That ladies and gentlemen is how Trump manages to do so well with his base. Provided the headline or sound bite is good, he knows that they are too lazy to actually read. 
Provide a good headline, trigger an emotional response and get them to spout off and within 20 seconds the entire content is forgotten and irrelevant.

I’m genuinely surprised at some of the attitudes here. Within my family age gap relationships have been quite common and both ways. My brothers wife was 21 years older than him and they were very happy until she passed away after 20+ years of marriage.

i has an 18 year gap 

2 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

I challenge you to see if Biden could even tell the difference, with out the media prompting him.

I'd be willing to bet he couldn't tell the difference between an AK and an M-14.

I'm sure that when you saw that ad, without the media telling you what to think, your very first thought was, Holy Fuck - "That's a MIG!!!" . . . . Right?  Be honest.

OR - you could admit that you didn't even think about, or see the add before you were told what to think, and until someone gave you fuel to hate Trump even more.

 

 

You’re making some big ass assumptions. I’ve spent a decent portion of my life working around F-16’s and JSF. I’m interested in military aircraft. So no I didn’t need people to tell me what the planes were. I don’t know rifles so wouldn’t know an AK-47 from an M-16

And there you have it, your blind bias. Your hero Trump fucked up badly, and your response is “well Biden would have to”. Pathetic really. 

I actually struggle to see how this was a genuine mistake. I think someone decided to take the piss out of Trump and his teams gross incompetence. Support “our” troops and it just happens to be Russian hardware by mistake? I’d be willing to bet that most stock pictures of cool military jets are of US warplanes

1 minute ago, JoeWeber said:

I'm thinking that some peoples mom's told them that before crossing a road you need to look one way.

What a joke. Honestly that is not a nothing mistake. Whoever did that needs to be fired unless Trump is using the Kremlin PR department for his artwork in which case give them a raise for pulling off a fantastic PR stunt!

1 minute ago, turtlespeed said:

No - I don't.

That isn't to say he wouldn't.

Someone in a hurry grabbed a pic and splashed on the background.

Its a nothing-burger unless you need fuel for your hate.

Then by all means - use it for mental masturbation hating Trump.

Holy shit. Talk about patriots. It’s a nothing burger when your PRESIDENT uses images from another countries military and not even an ally. 

I don’t see how you can have any shred of self respect defending that view. It is frankly such a slap in the face to the US armed forces, intentional or not. 

9 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

What in the world makes you think he sat at his desk and designed that ad himself?

What makes you think he had any involvement in its design?

Count on you to defend Trump. I’ve got news for you. An executive who employs incompetent people is incompetent. This is not a school project where any old stock image is ok. It’s your president, a man you vehemently defend. You’ve got no issue with his incompetent staff using Russian pictures and yet you believe they are capable of making complex decisions? 
What a joke... Goes to show what blind partisanship does to people 

I thought this was a joke, but actually true! Moscow times have also run the story. Our resident Trumpies must be so proud of their Commander in Chief. But no they won’t vote for Biden because...

7 hours ago, JoeWeber said:

Alrighty then, "according to press reports", it's time to threaten Iran with annihilation. Not according to actionable intelligence. Nope, our president only uses the best sources: OANN and Fox and Friends. 

Wait for the Trump apologists to jump in and defend him. Rather surprised Turtle hasn’t already jumped in with a rationalisation

4 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

Its not Trump as much as Anti Biden.

I won't vote for Trump.

I know. Due to bias you will never vote Democrat as you’ll go out of your way to see the issues. Whether you vote for Trump or not you will defend and continue to defend him to the bitter end. I get the feeling your “I’m not voting Trump” is simply leaving a back door open if in the future his behaviour comes back to bite him, Trump who...?

8 hours ago, jakee said:

Hypocrisy is exactly the point. I’ve never heard Biden accuse those who did serve of cowardice. I’ve never heard Biden claim to be the biggest and best supporter of the military or the most knowledgeable  person alive on military matters. Ive never heard Biden say he felt like a great soldier or refer to his personal Vietnam. 
 

I have nothing against anyone who dodged the draft per se, but Trump sure as hell deserves the criticism for it in light of everything else he’s ever publicly said about the military to advance his political career.

I can’t see much hope for the USA when people are so blinded by hatred and fear. 
I would say that as a generalisation most people I know see Americans as being very fearful people. More so than you’re average nation. Trump has tapped into that fear and is exploiting it. 

The one good thing I will say is he has drawn the bigotry out into the open. All those middle aged white men who feel marginalised because they see the world as transactional and that if a woman or minority gets the same rights as them, they have somehow “lost” some of their masculinity and rights.

For the election, I think it’s going to be close. Look at the percentage of posters here that are now clearly in the Trump camp.

9 minutes ago, RonD1120 said:

Matthew 18

New King James Version

Who Is the Greatest?

18 At that time the disciples came to Jesus, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”

2 Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, “Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

We all have that option.

I think many Christians use that as an excuse to suspend all critical thinking and abdicate responsibility for their actions.It’s not like Christians run around in nappies because Jesus told them to be like little children.

There are many facets to being child like.I see children as playful and curious. Curiosity and learning are good childlike qualities, many adults become closed minded and unable to adjust their world view 

https://www.logically.ai/articles/qanon-key-figure-man-from-new-jersey
 

At the risk of stoking the fires of Q belief. This is interesting, who would have thought that an IT geek would be behind a lot of this nonsense. I wish I had the insight and lack of morality to exploit people. Whole thing reminds me of that guy who got paid to take on pets in the event of the rapture. Perfectly legal to exploit people’s beliefs 

2 hours ago, olofscience said:

Call me a pessimist, but trumpists will find this "easy" to defend against.

They'll say: Trump downplayed covid-19 intentionally because people are stupid and panic easily. This fits into their belief system:

1. instead of deception, this can imply Trump is smarter than he outwardly appeared to be (nevermind the fact that he then went on to lose the battle against covid-19)
2. this implies the Trumpist is also smarter than the common, "easily-panicked" person. This makes them feel good about themselves even though there's no evidence for it.

Trump's core supporters won't be swayed by this. The only ones to convince are those near or on the fence.

Agreed. The Trump cult will follow him regardless 

14 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

I agree.

I don't want you to think I'm supporting his possession of a firearm he shouldn't have.

I am very much saying that I support him defending the businesses and property.  That is what the citizenry, supported by the police, should all be doing.

The best way this little boy could have helped is to stay at home and let the police do their jobs. I am genuinely surprised to see how strongly you support the vigilante”s. I know Ron is completely open about his support. It is rare to see you unequivocally standing behind something. And it’s attitudes like yours that justify vigilante actions that make me believe the USA could face serious unrest if Trump loses and he calls if you to arms. 

19 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

What he was doing was morally and socially correct.  EVEREYONE should have been out there on the streets protecting that property and all property.

What tool he used to do that protecting of the business and himself is what was illegal.

He did not hunt anyone down.  An armed man was chasing him. Here is a picture of Grosskreutz moments after he was shot.  He is still holding the gun. 

Why is this guy not a vigilante as he was chasing down Rittenhouse?  Is it because you disagree with Rittenhouse's politics, and agree with Grosskreutz?

The kid was knocked to the ground and was getting beaten.

Rittenhouse was running away.  Why were they chasing him?  What did the guy hitting Rittenhouse with a skateboard, while the guy was holding a rifle expect? 

Honestly - what would YOU expect to happen to you if you start wailing away with a club on a guy with a gun? 

Who were the vigilantes?  Who took the law into their own hands?  Who was chasing who?  Who attacked who?

 

It is the job of the police to enforce law and order. What this guy did was the definition of vigilante. He should have stayed home not gone looking for trouble. 
I honestly can’t believe you are prepared to dig your heels in and continue to defend his actions. The views you are expressing here would be classified as domestic terrorism if you were Islamic and I’m pretty sure you would be pretty vocal about it. Pretty blatant double standards

Just now, billvon said:

He was carrying a gun that it was illegal for him to possess.

He crossed a state line with an illegal weapon in order to participate in a riot.

He then hunted down and killed two people and crippled a third.

Can't get much more illegal than that.

But he’s white so it doesn’t count. He was defending the constitution and Trump

On 8/25/2020 at 9:38 PM, Coreece said:

Poverty is somewhat of a mindset, and living in highly populated, densely packed neighborhoods and housing projects with limited opportunity makes it even harder to break free - especially when violent crime invites shit loads of police, increasing interaction with those police and elevating the odds of being snagged for petty crimes, forcing one to put their life on hold until navigating through the penal system.  It's a vicious cycle and many never find their way out.

I agree with this. From first hand experience. My ex came from a family of drugs and crime who never worked. She left that state to start a new life which is when I met her. She lasted just over 3 years with me and then went back and is herself now immersed in drugs (meth) and crime.

She struggled with me working, she had never experienced the man in the house being away all day. She would beg me to leave work at all times of the day. She started a Uni degree and dropped out. At the end of the day she simply didn’t have the skills, knowledge or willpower to make the change. Her kids now are repeating the cycle of her childhood (foster system etc). As you say it’s a vicious cycle and I don’t know how you change it. She had “everything” with me, stable and safe home. But in the end it was her roots that won

9 minutes ago, billvon said:

In the short term, ignoring it and downplaying it helps both him and his inner circle, because they remain more popular.

Also Trump is/was more concerned about the stock market than people’s lives. 

On 8/27/2020 at 7:45 PM, wmw999 said:

Shameless bump of my very own thread. Play the ball. If the player who pisses you off is playing person-to-person defense, fuck 'em, go play a different game for awhile. Leave them wondering if you saw their last post, or make it clear it just wasn't worth responding to. Nothing will piss some of those folks off more.

Wendy P.

Wow, you’ve been trying for nearly 20 years! Thread bought back memories. Popsjumper and I became very good friends, sadly he passed away before he could vote for Trump (he liked Trump). John rich and Kallend sparring over guns in a never ending circle :)