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Quote>I have a problem with the church being made to pay for it
The church doesn't pay for it.
>if the individual wants this coverage they should have to pay for it themselves with a
>rider attached to the policy.
That's basically what happens. (They don't have to pay extra, but there is a rider attached so that their policy is separate from the standard church policy.)
If I heard correctly is that Obama said that the insurance company would prvide it to the employee for free but that cost would be passed on to the church through the premium. I would only agree if a seperate policy is attached and the employee paid out thier own pocket 100% of the addition. -
Quote>Forcing the church to provide a service that goes against the tenets of the faith is
>'maintaining separation', how?
They don't. No church needs tp provide any birth control services to their employees.
However, the employees can request that through their insurance company if they choose. Do you have a problem with that?
I have a problem with the church being made to pay for it, if the individual wants this coverage they should have to pay for it themselves with a rider attached to the policy. -
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I believe premarital childbirth is covered under any policy that covers postmarital childbirth now. The uproar over a policy that asked one's marital status for certain procedures would be interesting.QuoteIn your scenario they still pay for contraceptives but now you've tacked on abortions (and of course premarital childbirth).
Wendy P.
Pregnancy is on all group policies and cannot not be removed here in Illinois. Since my shop has a group policy my wifes insurance has pregnancy covered with a higher premium eventhough my wife cannot get pregnant nor can I get her pregnant. these are some of the things in insurance that really piss me off because the pregnancy coverage is espensive but I don't want to pay for it. I am made to pay about $100 a month for something I don't want and cannot use. All this stuff in the health care bill adds to the list of things you pay for but don't use or want. -
Quote>FOXNEWS O'REILLY 3,292,000
>FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,117,000
>FOXNEWS BRET BAIER 1,908,000
Primetime Broadcast Adults 18-49 Viewers for the week ending February 12, 2012:
American Idol 7,828,000
Modern Family 7,029,000 . . .
2 Broke Girls 5,534,000
GREY'S ANATOMY 5,108,000
How I Met Your Mother 5,097,000
Smash 4,885,000
New Girl 4,463,000
MIKE & Molly 4,339,000
Person Of Interest 4,264,000
Glee 4,224,000
ROB 4,205,000
Criminal Minds 4,156,000
NCIS: LOS ANGELES 4,022,000
Once Upon A Time 3,879,000
Mentalist, THE 3,856,000
MOBBED 3,783,000
Happy Endings 3,722,000
60 Minutes 3,533,000
Hawaii Five-0 3,442,000
hey I noticed 2&1/2 men is not in there, maybe they should bring Charlie back -
Quote>Yes, you do
Nice try! But I fear your attempts to tell other people what they really believe will work about as well as . . . all your other attempts to do the same thing.
Now get back to supporting pollution and HIV, you troublemaker.
Yes you do, the church has to provide insurance or be fined since they employ over 50 people. so the money they are fined will go to pay for insurance for people that have contrception in the policy. therefore they either provide insurance with contrception, or pay a higher premium because it is still mandated to be given by the insurance company, or pay a fine that goes towards paying for insurance that has contrception in it. there is no way out of not paying for or providing contraception for the church. so by supporting the bill in any way makes the church supply or pay for something that goes against the religion and that is illegal acording to the constitution. -
QuoteQuoteOne more word on this. The long term health of our own economy (USA) is largely dependent on human rights advances in developing countries. As their freedoms and standard of living are allowed to rise, the playing field levels.
So if you're looking for a cause, basic human rights is a great place to start.
Yes I agree...but are you willing to pay $10 / lb of coffee and $1k for an Ipod in the name of human rights?
are you willing to live with a flat 401k that never grows?
We want cheap products and a retirement fund that will allow us to live well.
And thus we need cheap labor....which then takes away our jobs.....
No matter how you cut it...not good!
funny thing how spoiled you are and how much you whine about things, I was watching a show about Munbai India the other day and a fact that I thought was startleing was that 40% of the people in the 2nd largest city in India don't even have running water. You complain about how the rich owe you and the bankers are thiefs and how corrupt capitalism is, but you can't seem to understand that the rich and capitalism has provided the very things that millions don't have in one city.
I think it is time for you to start to appreciate the simple things you do receive thank to the rich people that pay millions every year to provide the basic life altering services that almost a billion people don't even have. -
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteits hard to become an alcoholic if you never start drinking. . . .
Of course. Now try telling that to a 15 yr old kid.
Not all 15 year old drink.
Believe it or not, some actually exhibit strength and maturity because their parents are involved with what's going on in their kids lives and steer them down the right path.
simplistic sound bytes may sound warm and fuzzy, but they do very little to advance this discussion. this discussion is not about parenting skills. Its about marketing alcohol to naive, impressionable young people on indian reservations plagued by grinding poverty, staggering rates of existing alcoholism, terrible education and ignorance. any discussion that fails to take that into consideration is simply bankrupt.
from what you said here it looks like the adults are the issue not the beer companies. -
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIf he had tossed the laptop out a window or run over it with his car, would you view him as more rational?
Donating it to charity would have made more sense to me, but it wouldn't have made a very good YouTube video.
But I'm sort of skeptical about the authenticity here anyway... smells a bit like balloon boy.
I personally wouldn't donate my computers to anyone. With all the personal info that is hidden on it, I wouldn't want anyone to dig up, say, my bank acxount info.
The reason why the dad had the daughter's computed is because she wanted him to fix it. That is how he found the comments. If he wanted to donate it, he would have had to pay to fix it and then wipe it. If it's an older computer, it would be cheaper just to buy a computer to donate.
I heard on the news earlier that grounding and other typical parenting techniques were not getting through. A dramatic gesture was what finally got through to the kid.
For all the arm chair quarterbacks, when was the last time you have had to deal with a teenager? MTV and their friends at high school have created some unique parenting challenges.
The guy sounded pretty tech savvy, or at least, savvy enough to do his own wipe. There are free programs out there that will scrub your HD clean of anything and everything by writing/rewriting pseudo random data over and over and over and over again. I use one such program at work to scrub off patient info. Works really well and is pretty quick.
And yeah, if you go back and listen again, he makes mention a few times that normal techniques / punishments weren't working and so this was just the next step in a long line of things. Apparently, this wasn't her first offense.
he found her post by accident on their dogs facebook page. She blocked family from seeing her post but did not have the dogs face book under family. A lesson many kids seem to not understand is that when you put something on the internet it is there for ALL to see. -
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the big problem with nuclear is the disposal of the waste and that has still not been figured out how to be done.
Haven't the French figured this out?
So did the US. The all but completed waste disposal facility in Nevada is being held hostage by Sen. Light Foot Harry Reid.
that would mean it has not been figured out. -
QuoteQuotehe big problem with nuclear is the disposal of the waste and that has still not been figured out how to be done.
We know how to do it. It's just a matter of where to do it. The technology exists. The politics prevent it.
The problem with radioactive waste isn't that it can't be stored, the problem is that it has to be stored in a way that is sealed forever, and that can not be guaranteed for ever. -
Quote>And yes, I understand that there were failings in backup systems that weren't entirely
>related to the tsunami at Fukushima.
Ironically the plants in Japan actually withstood the tsunami, but failed when the control systems lost power due to losing their diesel fuel tanks (and lines to other facilities.) The AP1000 does not need power or control to shut down; it's passively safe.
the cracks in the reactor buildings that leaked out the radioactive water was most likely from the earthquake. the big problem with nuclear is the disposal of the waste and that has still not been figured out how to be done. -
QuoteIt's not personal it's just business!
I have skin in the game....aka mortgage.
The old fuck bags have paid off their condos...and don't want any new young folks coming in and being you know...alive!
So they have a choice to make when me and a few of the younger folks who do have skin in the game take over the board....
DIE!
Or
GTFO!
Why? Simple...the longer these condos stay on the market and unoccupied the lower my property value will go.
And as for 3% vs 20%...I live in NJ. The price of the discount condo right now that has been on the market for a solid 12 months is $200k. Who the fuck has $40k cash to throw into anything? Now $6k...yeah we be talking!
So sorry old ladies and old dudes....it's not that I hate you...though I do detest you...but since you are killing my property value I have no choice but to kill you off......
Who knew legal discrimination would turn violent?
ps
I didn't know any better I took out an 80/20 loan, I barrowed 20% very dumb did not know any better I was young and in love....thus dumb!
The association does limit many things with the bylaws they pass. I couldn't sell my townhome in 2008 so I decided to rent it, the board decided toi have a vote to not allow renters. I started doing some studying and found out alot of things I didn't know about in reguards to renting and buying property. the FHA loan is the easiest way for a young person to get a loan butmany bylaws in associations prevent FHA loans causing a huge drop in property values from not being able to sell units. to many younger people do not read the bylaws before buying, don't go to meetings and don't get involved on the board. become a board memeber and work to change the bylaws to alow FHA loans and you will see property values increase. Remember old people don't work and have alot of time to be board members to control their standard of living and are not concerned with property values as a result. -
Quotehttp://www.cnn.com/2012/01/31/tech/gaming-gadgets/apple-boycott-commentary/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
Let's start with why people keep snapping up Apple's iPhones and iPads by the millions each week in the first place.
Just never going to win this one....how sad and yet how true.....I feel bad for kids today.
hey I paid just under 15% on gains on my investments last year, I guess it isn't just the rich that get the breaks. mybe you should try investing instead of bitching and you too could be a buffet. -
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteONE man contributes 3 mil into the pot and it's not enough for you people. Is he using 3 mil worth of resources?
Oh? Is that the standard you want; a complete "user pays" society rather than shared responsibility?
Are you sure?
I think what is meant here is that Romney paid 3 mil and the people that are mostly complaining gave nothing or next to nothing. they need to pay for some also.
Oh, I agree, GE ought to pay more taxes. Last year they not only paid zero, but actually got subsidy money.
no argument here, EVERYBODY needs to pay something. -
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteONE man contributes 3 mil into the pot and it's not enough for you people. Is he using 3 mil worth of resources?
Oh? Is that the standard you want; a complete "user pays" society rather than shared responsibility?
Are you sure?
I think what is meant here is that Romney paid 3 mil and the people that are mostly complaining gave nothing or next to nothing. they need to pay for some also.
Oh, I agree, GE ought to pay more taxes. Last year they not only paid zero, but actually got subsidy money.
no argument here, EVERYBODY needs to pay something. -
QuoteQuoteONE man contributes 3 mil into the pot and it's not enough for you people. Is he using 3 mil worth of resources?
Oh? Is that the standard you want; a complete "user pays" society rather than shared responsibility?
Are you sure?
I think what is meant here is that Romney paid 3 mil and the people that are mostly complaining gave nothing or next to nothing. they need to pay for some also. -
QuoteQuoteBetter be carefull billvon, your are starting to sound like a republican.
Bull - he sounds like a person that understand 'legal' vs 'spin'.
Neither a Dem or Rep advocate falls into that category in this topic.
I understand what you are saying but what was meant by my comment was that republicans feal you should be able to keep more of what you earn and spend how you want and dem's want to distribute what you earn as they want. Bill was defending Romney's income and tax % allowing him to keep what he earned. -
QuotePresident Obama’s State of the Union Speech will be tonight. And if a listener were to sip a beer every time the word “fair” (or one of its variants, i.e., “fairness”) is stated, I can make a reasonable bet that the person will be tanked a half hour into it.
The word “fair” is a frequent statement. But what is fairness? Isn’t “fair” just a word being used that is meant to apply to everyone? I also must think that Shakespeare had it right. “Fair is foul and foul is fair.” Because what is fair for the wolf is death to the sheep.
Those involved in law or sales are familiar with the term “puffery.” A simple definition is that puffery/puffing means making statements about something that cannot be objectively proven or disproven. An example is “this is the best car on the lot.” Issue – what is “best?” By what metric is “best” measured? The “best” car for me will have a five star safety rating. For someone else, the “best” car may be body styling. Another may want mileage. Or raw power and torque.
This is an example of my problem with the free use of the term “fair.” How does one define “fair?” How do you define “fair?” What do you look for to determine “fairness?”
Fair to me means everyone contributes or is excluded. It also means all are allowed to contribute. -
Quote>why not make EVERYONE pay the same percentage of all income
Because then you'd clobber the economy and cause a recession that makes the last one look like a picnic.
>what is their fair share?
About 4% federal taxes, about 2% state/local taxes. (average tax paid for the lowest 20% of earners in the US.)
last I heard was that most of the bottom earners paid little or no fed tax, they my have some taken out of the paycheck but it all comes back in april, for those that don't pay what is their fair share? -
QuoteI say a snipet on thit topic today and looked this up
Comments?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/08/26/its-time-for-china-to-pay-its-debts-to-united-states/QuoteOver the last sixty years, China has refused to pay to these bondholders either the principal or interest on these full faith and credit sovereign bonds. (To say nothing of the hundreds of billions also owed to U.S. artists from unpaid royalties on the more recent sale of pirated CD’s and videos, but that's another story).
In 1987, threatened with being kept out of the British financial markets, China acknowledged the debt in owed from the sale of these exact same bonds to British investors. As part of the Great Britain-PRC agreement on Hong Kong, the PRC agreed to pay its debt to British citizens who owned these same bonds. By paying the British bondholders, but no other bond owners worldwide, including U.S. bondholders, China “selectively defaulted” on these bonds.
So maybe we should not pay them?
you forget that america is evil and china is not, that is why we have to pay and they don't. Don't you remember Obama apologizing for the US. -
QuoteQuoteThe growing jealousy over successful people seriously disgusts me.
I strive to succeed on my own merits.
I don't hate others for tremendous success.
I tend to admire a large portion of them.
Income is what working people make.
Investments are what successful make.
These two are not the same and therefore are generally taxed quite different.
Complain about IRS rules if you will, not those that play by the rules.
This. I don't begrudge Romney at all. He makes big bucks and pays what he has to. My problem is with a tax code that says I should pay double his tax rate when I make 0.5% of his income. The upper reaches of our economic ladder should pay at least the same rate as us working middle class fools, and honestly they could afford to dig a bit deeper than those of us who have to actually save/budget for things like transportation, home repairs, medical bills, etc.
Blues,
Dave
the issue should be on the bottom 10% that pay nothing in federal taxes, what is their fair share? since we are talking fair, why not make EVERYONE pay the same percentage of all income, that is about as fair as it can get. These leaches calling for fair share from the top 1% have no idea what fair means. what is their fair share? -
Quote>Look I'm sorry boys and girls of the GOP but really this is your boy wonder?
>A guy who has no connection to the average middle class fuck?
I don't really want a guy who is like a middle class fuck as president.
>But someone who uses his influence and finances to cheat....that one we may have
>a small issue with!
How did he cheat?
>A guy who has enough cash and influence to twists the rules of the land to not
>only benefit him but to give him a huge windfall!
What rules did he twist?
Better be carefull billvon, your are starting to sound like a republican. -
Quotehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16696347
Yeah The Rich Have It All....NO really they actually have it all and they have taxes lower than those making minimum wage!
I'm not envious of his success I'm envious he get's taxed so low and if I were to walk away from my condo and have no deductibles my state and federal taxes would shoot up to 35%
But I have a choice, I can sit here and get pissed and give myself an ulcer but what would that accomplish? Not like the world is ever going to change?
So enjoy boys and girls! Enjoy! And good luck defending this one! It's kind of like occupying wallstreet so that they could be less regulated and make more money off of your 401k or protesting for war....all things the GOP actually has done!
at least he paid his taxes, unlike many in Obama's administration that did not pay taxes. -
QuoteClass warfare at it's finest. The poor are the enemy. Kill them all.
maybe they should buy a ticket and ride in the car instead. Just like the responsible ones do.
If little boys could get pregnant..
in Speakers Corner
I hink there is