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Right before I read this I was thinking to post something like how she needs to get him in a situation where they are both drunk, him drunk to the point of not arguing, ands he probably just needs to start making out with him. That will send him the message. She should just ignore everything he says in between unless what he says is a major red flag. Like he's gay.

yeah well... there are a lot of things that would be better that way. Ain't gonna happen for her though!

Precisely. She passed, he needs to catch. She could just go on like nothing happened and see if he recovers. She'll probably have to endure a few more hours of beating around the bush. She should probably turn up the heat on her allusions to her intentions. Strattle the line between flirting and telling him exactly what you want.

A vacationing doctor tossed his 4- and 8-year-old sons off a 15th-floor balcony of their Miami Beach hotel Saturday morning and then leapt to his own death as his wife looked on. Qinuo Van Dyk was startled by her son's scream about 8:30 a.m. Saturday and looked over to see Edward Van Dyk plunge to a 3rd-floor mezzanine, said Officer Bobby Hernandez, spokesman for the Miami Beach Police Department. She looked over the balcony and saw all three died in the fall. "It's so horrific; it's almost unbelievable," Hernandez said. The Van Dyks were vacationing from their home in Alton, Ill. Edward Van Dyk, a a practicing oncologist, was celebrating his 10th anniversary with his wife, a former doctor who home-schooled their children.Hernandez said the family arrived at the Loews at 1601 Collins Avenue Tuesday. Hernandez said the couple had marital problems in the past six months, "but nothing that would indicate he would commit such a horrible act." Investigators scoured the three bodies for clues that could give them insight into what caused Edward Van Dyk to snap, Hernandez said. He said the medical examiner will determine an exact cause of death for each person. Hernandez said that detectives found no evidence in the room of a struggle or alcohol or drug use. Guests in adjacent rooms said they didn't hear anything coming from the family's room until Qinuo Van Dyk started screaming. Detectives Saturday were attempting to get her permission to search their home for a suicide note or other clues. They also hoped to find relatives who could fly to Miami Beach and help her. Hotel officials gave her another room, while police assigned two victim advocates and a police chaplain to console her. --------------------------------------------- I'm betting lots of debt was a factor here. EDIT: More story Edward Van Dyk, 43, tossed his two sons, ages 4 and 8, to their deaths around 8:20 a.m., Miami Beach Police spokesman Bobby Hernandez said. Authorities did not release the names of the two boys. The mother of the children, Qinuo Van Dyk, 40, told police she and her husband had been having marital problems for the past six months, but hadn't argued right before the incident, Hernandez said. The woman heard one of her children screaming from an adjacent room in the Loews Hotel, where the Alton, Ill., family was staying. When she walked into the room she saw her husband going off the balcony, Hernandez said. She looked over the railing and saw her husband and her two children lying on a mezzanine roof that is about two floors above the ground. Hernandez said that despite the marital problems, the family had been celebrating the couple's 10th wedding anniversary. "It's a terrible tragedy. It's unfortunate that this gentleman was so selfish and in an effort to get back at his wife he took the two most loved people in the world away from her," Hernandez said. Hernandez said the woman did not know why her husband, a radiation oncologist at Alton Memorial Hospital, killed the children and himself. Edward Van Dyk began working at the hospital 18 months ago, when the family moved from New Mexico, hospital spokesman Rob Shelton said. "We are shocked and saddened by this tragedy and we offer our deepest sympathy to Mrs. Van Dyk and her family," Shelton said. People in neighboring rooms said they did not hear any noises, Hernandez said. A Loews Hotel spokeswoman in Miami would not comment.

True is that. Same here in the nerd department. Well, I'm not so much a nerd as I am eccentric and socially self-defeating as a result. I can blend in ok, but once I start interacting, I start walking through the minefield.

How does the guy recover? Or how does the girl recover? The guy - just call her up later, set up a quick evening date. Take her back to the pad and have some fun doing what she wanted the whole time. He just needs to forget the fuck-up and pick up where he left off. The girl - toughy. Seems like depending on the guy, she could be totally fucking direct and ask if she was out of bounds by advancing on him like she did. If he doesn't know what she's talking about, i figure it would play out something like "well, when I mentioned one of us sleeping over, and you asked me what would have gave me that idea, i just thought I may have been to forward for your comfort" Lets just say if he actually is interested in her in a compatible way, he needs to pick the ball up, and take her up on the offer, immediately. If he doesn't take control back, she's going to be left with a mess to try to coach him through, at which point it's kinda pointless. There is clearly a compatability issue. If he isn't interested in her that way, well, game over again.

See I guess that's fine. My biggest concern is looking like a tard figuring it out. Which I figured I'd take care of here rather than in person.

One person is dead and another injured after a shooting Saturday at Crossroads Mall in south Oklahoma City. An Oklahoma County sheriff's deputy on-duty at the mall heard people fighting near JC Penney and saw a male shoot another male with a gun, said Oklahoma City County Sheriff John Whetsel. The deputy fatally shot the gunman, Whetsel said. The person who was initially shot was taken to a city hospital, his condition is not known. ------------------- Note in OKC, the south side is a little more white-trash gangsta (not as bad as you think) and this mall is where the kids who can't drive end up hanging out. Me and my friends would go up there to play at the arcade (we've since grown bored of their game offerings and found other places) but we hardly ever go there any more. Just more reasons not to. Although I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being some stupid kid who I knew from seeing around there constantly when I did spend time there. So this could end up being really weird.

Ah ok. Makes sense now. He's trying to avoid looking desperate. She was in control of this deal, it's caught him off-guard so now he feels like he has be de-man-ified which he fears will end up leaving her less interested in him. He lost the ball (she actually stole it from him) and now he's like... "Uh oh, I didn't expect this"

http://newsok.com/article/1856222/?template=home/main Good news is only one dead is the one that was armed.

It was all in pretend on this side as well. GAH I hate it when it takes this long to amicably conclude what didn't need it in the first place!!!

Well you don't wanna come off as a slut do ya? Honestly, if he was anything like me, only I hope he has more social grace and lady-charm.... well hold that thought... I'd need to know what he's being vague about. OP, What was he being vague/indirect about!?

THAT is a gem right there . Thanks! Made it up, just for this thread too.

And see how effective our interaction was? You picked up that I was an asshole, I picked up you were a bitch, and even initiated our parting of ways! Seriously though, J/K about the bitch thing. I don't know that you are one, and I hope you aren't.

From what I can tell, women overcomplicate the whole process EDIT: men further overcomplicate the complications, so the man lacking an assertive and clear direction in his pursuit will bumble about trying to press all 169 buttons he thinks activates your interest in him, forgetting that each women has different buttons, which require different sequences of activation, to actually result in something positive. For a guy without a gameplan, trying to win your interest is like playing minesweeper without paying attention to the numbers. If you are interested in him and just want him to be more direct, be direct with him. If it's not working, be more direct, or give up. Just sayin.

Is that so? Okay then... Hey asshole!! Where's the picket fence??! Too which I respond with: "My bets are on one of the guys in your list after me. Bye!"

Ok. Bare with me on this because not being able to legally engage in social drinking during which I was able to be a supplier, has left me with out the ole' know-how on how to deliver when you allegedly owe beer. (Yeah yeah, I'm a tard in this department.) Really this all boils down to one simple question. How do you determine what kind of fucking beer ya get? NOTE: I typed a 5 sentence paragraph elaborately adding contextual bullshit which served to overcomplicate the very simple question stated above. I'm way too damn verbose on forums.

Rule # 1 for dealing with men: 1. Ask for what you want. Let us be clear on this one: Subtle hints do not work! Strong hints do not work! Obvious hints do not work! Just say it!

The Port Charlotte fishing captain donated the big fish to the Center for Shark Research at Mote Marine Laboratory in Sarasota, which plans to have it mounted and displayed. full story Weird. Woulda swore when I first saw that story on some other website they said they were going to bury the carcass. Cause I specifically remember thinking "What a fucking waste."

I guess the great Monty Python offers too strong an answer to your problem. Honestly though, I think it's the combination of a couple of things: Lack of foresight Making impulse reactions based on emotions It makes them feel good for the moment, and they often don't stop to think about how what they're doing could hurt them in the long run. The way they feel also helps to cloak that little feeling people get that tells them "wait, this might bite me in the ass later." Just sayin.

In my research into birds of prey, it was brought to my attention that cats, like raptors, do not respond well to negative reinforcement. So any use of force, especially at your hand, will be taken as a reason to fear you and can end up making the situation worse. Part of the reason it doesn't work as well as you would want it to is because it doesn't necessarily associate the punishment with what it is doing that you are punishing it for. That's why cats that hate getting squirted with the water bottle will usually (in my experience) quickly turn and run when they see you holding it. You are teaching them to fear you, specifically when you carry a water bottle. So if your cat is playing with you while you are holding it, and it starts to bite you. You need to stop the interaction immediately and come back after a while. If it likes playing with you, it will associate the behavior with something it likes being taken away. This is the essentially the most positive way to correct behavior in animals that don't respond to negative-reinforcement. Again, you should never physically punish your cat. That only gives them reason to fear you, and more reason to bite.

The good news is, all the christians will be raptured before then.

That's exactly what happened. Of course, I don't find anything out about this until later, and I'll assume by boss didn't realize I was sick, so I rationalize he didn't care to tell the customer that. But I dont think the customer would give a shit anyway. "It's not my fault he's sick" Yeah well it's not my fault your car broke either. It's not like I deny it looking bad, but I just shouldn't have been there in the first place. I fucking love these people though. They just look for reasons to be offended. Maybe I'm way too passive but if I have sub-par service, I'm not very quick to jump down someone's throat about it. Roll up to McDonald's, guy running the drive through says "Uh, we close in 15 minutes." I just say "OK" and drive off. I thought to say "Great that means you're still open." I could have raised a big shit storm about it but I didn't. And that was a pretty extreme situation compared to my day. People need to worry about more important things than ripping other people up when they don't even truly understand why they are upset. I just need to stay away from work everytime I feel shitty.

They just buried the carcass. Got nothing but notoriety from the whole thing.

So yesterday, I had some sweet post-nasal drip going on. Allergies are getting bad this time of year so it's expected. I knew I was going to go home, go to sleep, and wake up feeling sick, and I did. But I knew it was just an allergy thing so I committed myself to going into work and taking some allergy medicine and attempting to power through the day. After about an hour or two of working I was starting to feel some aches in my limbs and some head congestion. At one point, one of the service advisors brings a customer in to pick up her car and pay. After getting all my stuff taken care off (taking payment, getting signatures etc) I laid my head down on my arms. I get back from lunch and my boss calls me in and asks me what the hell I was doing putting my head down with a customer in there. I didn't know what he was talking about at first, but then I told him I only did it due to feeling sick. Gave me this rip about people's perception of what was happening. He told me if I was that sick I should just go home. So here I am trying to put out a little more effort than someone else may have and not get taken down by some allergy problems. I didn't want to leave early cause I figured that would look bad. I didn't want to not come in because that makes it hard on everyone else. I should have just stayed home. Now im going home as soon as my coworker gets back from lunch. No appreciation.