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it's the end of the world as we know it, I feel fine._________________________________________
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Post: >it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes and aeroplanes.
I wish there were someone who wasn't afraid of that. Right? Right <<<<<<<<<<<
Bill, it's song lyrics._________________________________________
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I'm not going to debate you on AAD's or RSL's for that matter. I think, but have no proof, that it might misread or malfunction possably due to a weak battery and misfire._________________________________________
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It's cajun.
'What- far dem jump from planes".
Atleast thats what I have always known about the term Whuffo._________________________________________
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Incidents
A forum to report, discuss and learn from actual incidents, fatal and non-fatal. Let's learn from our own mistakes honor those people who've passed on by not making the same mistakes. <<<<<<<<<
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educaaaaaaaaaaaaaation!
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Bullshit. The only thing you're educated on in the Incidents Forum is who was the first to post and who got injured or killed followed by an emotional discussion.
The quality of information collection and metrics for the beginning stages of education would be greatly enhanced by an Incidents Forum Form; first to post would be required to fill out the form<<<<<<<<
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I understand what you mean brother! But if we want to learn from the mistakes of others some one has to be the first to post it.
What I have learned from the hook turns was
1. Use front risers, not toggles. It keeps the cells pressurized so a pilot can dig out of a low turn.
2. Learn how to do braked approaches, and fly in breaks. Learn how to flat turns.
3. Realize I do not have the experience to do hook turns and should not do them. I could seriously injure myself.
4. There are canopy control courses.
All of these I learned from the incident forum, by reading the mistakes of others. I had to learn to filter through the emotional posts._________________________________________
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I wouldn't start a thread in incidents unless I had all the facts, and was a wittness having first hand information.
Who (out of respect may remain nameless)
What
When
Where
How
Why
Often these are not included in the first post. Sometimes posters are asking about an incident they heard about, and think others may have the answers. Sometimes threads never reach a conclusion as the facts are never known._________________________________________
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yeah, I was a little drunk last night, and I did get the year wrong. It is too late for me to edit my typo in the other post. Can I appoligise for being a dumb ass?_________________________________________
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ditto_________________________________________
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oh shit! another one!
In the 1980's a whole load of skydiverrs was landing in a farmers field somewhere in north west louisiana.
The farmer replyed "What far them jump out of planes?' or Whof-for hence whuffo_________________________________________
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educaaaaaaaaaaaaaation!_________________________________________
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Did you scope out the landing strips they showed?
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No, but I could not believe the short take off and load capacity. I think this might be the BOMB for jumping. Unfortunately it will be 15 years before there is one old enough on the market I could afford._________________________________________
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http://www.questaircraft.com/specifications.htm
didn't have a price or availability listed,_________________________________________
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Topics of this type are what somtimes lead other fourm reader, and poster to call Troll! I am not accusing this poster of being a troll, I just want to use this as an example.
For a skydiver who needs to follow the user manual and manufacture guidlines in the use of skydiving equipment, to knowingly break the rules and post it here on a worldwide fourm could be mistaken by others as trolling._________________________________________
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IF you are going to jump, leave it off. Just cause, not that an expired cypress will cause a premature activation. BUT realize you are breaking a few rules if you were to jump that here in the USA. I do not know what the Canadian rules are. I am also not condoning your actions, please be smart._________________________________________
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What's a "flower" exit?<<<<<<<<<<<<
Head down where the participans have a one handed grip in the center. They may be more, I don't know._________________________________________
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I PM'ed all the moderator's to lock it cause YOU are makeing the skydiving community look like a bunch of insunificant little bitches. If you want to argue about insurance, or driving start your own thread, but hijacking this one for your own pleasure makes you a troll._________________________________________
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Agree! Everyone get insurance! There is nothing further to be learned..............................................
If this thread gets one person to get insurance...It is worth more than the time spent on it. <<<<<<<
I nominate this thread to be locked! There is nothing further to be learned, 12 pages and no response.
Shayna will be talked about in depth like D.B. Copper
Unless you all reaslize, we have turned her in to a superstar.
LOCK IT!_________________________________________
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Stop it! all of you!_________________________________________
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Shayna started this thread, ......go start your own, about a topic you choose. I mean no disespect, to you, or anyone else, but just shew........go on shew.............you and the like are not on topic. I know, I know... some one flamed you. You feel the need to defend yourself. Please direct your comments to Shayna._________________________________________
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Yeah, I had the same shit. It is not so much the tuck tab, as if you will notice the blurp or the hump your reservce causes at just below shoulders. Your rigger is not placing the canopy in the D-bag properly thus leading to the D-bag not being placed in the tray properly.I discussed this at length with Ankie and Collin. Basically what we came up with is ( Tell your rigger to stop packing Wings like a Javilen), and read to the wings manual" I brought my shit strait to Collin in Z-hills, I swear I have never had an issue with it since! Strait up! I always tell the rigger to look how tight my shit looks, and to take note.
I think it is worth mentioning I had a cut away and reserve deployment in this configuration before, it worked fine!_________________________________________
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Kewl! I was on the ground in about 2002 when a military JM was landing his personal gear. I noted that his slider was kinda up to the rest of the group of jumpers watching. The JM later stated that "no shit, I thought I was coming in hot". We Later realized while packing that a silicon bumper was inavertently brought up with the slider from the last pack job. I mean the silicon bumper was trappen in the slider grommet. IT was inadvertantly brought up the lines from the last pack job. It caused the slider to hang up about 1/2 way down. The JM landed unevently._________________________________________
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I think I know what your asking, but define a "hung" slider. I don't think any amount of pumping would clear that. The only thing that would clear that would be to reach up and grab it, and we both know that isn't possable_________________________________________
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Out of curiosity, how old are your little girl and her boy?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
15_________________________________________
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I have found that flaring all the way, holding, and then stroking the bottom end of the flare to be more effective at clearing a slider up mal._________________________________________
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COST of COACH COURSE??
in Safety and Training
I offered the staff at Spaceland where I was employed at the time $50 bucks plus slots to "hook up" friends, the only requirment was to have up to date books.(within 2 years) NO ONE applied for a course! Fuck, I then learned to stop trying to give myself away, no one in this sport will appricate you for it. If I were to teach a course today it would be $200 plus slots, no exceptions. You can hate me for it, or not care about it, but skydivers dont appricate kindness. Period!
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