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  1. Here's Kimmie's latest two emails from her propaganda dept! ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************** IN THE NEWS *********************************************************** City of Longmont, Colorado : News List (Link) http://www.longmontcolorado.gov/Home/Components/News/News/1013/ City of Longmont, Colorado : News List The City of Longmont and Mile Hi Skydiving are working to extend an interim settlement agreement that was approved March 20 and expired June 30 whereby Mile-Hi has agreed to pay rent for its current use of property at Vance Brand Airport. View on www.longmontcolorado.gov Preview by Yahoo Longmont and Mile Hi Seek Long-Term Agreement Post Date:08/14/2015 9:13 am The City of Longmont and Mile Hi Skydiving are working to extend an interim settlement agreement that was approved March 20 and expired June 30 whereby Mile-Hi has agreed to pay rent for its current use of property at Vance Brand Airport. Under the interim settlement agreement, Mile Hi made rent payments and both parties agreed to engage in discussions to resolve outstanding issues relating to Mile Hi’s operations at the Airport, including possible noise mitigation measures for its operations and payments for past rent under a 2007 ground lease to Mile Hi at Vance Brand Airport. As outlined in the initial interim agreement, Mile Hi has made payments of $36,634 through June 30 and has paid an additional $4,070 in anticipation of execution of the extension to the interim settlement agreement. If the amendment is executed, the interim settlement would be extended through October 30. On August 14, 2015, the City of Longmont provided Mile Hi with the draft interim agreement extension for signatures by Mile Hi representatives. Background The interim settlement agreement was prompted by a dispute between the City and Mile Hi regarding a 4.15 acre parcel on the south side of the airport which the City leased for 20 years to Mile Hi beginning in 2007. At that time, Mile Hi was finalizing plans for a proposed skydiving facility that would allow the company to consolidate its facilities from the north side of the airport to the south side. The lease called for Mile Hi to begin lease payments to the City “30 days following issuance of a grading permit.” Due to worsening economic conditions following the execution of the lease, Mile Hi never built its planned facility—and therefore never applied for a grading permit. However, Mile Hi has used the property as a landing zone and to house parachutes and related equipment in a quonset hut that was later constructed on the leased land. The City believes that it cannot permit the continued exclusive use of airport property without compensation based on certain grant requirements placed on the airport by the Federal Aviation Administration. Vance Brand has received a number of grants from the FAA, and therefore must comply with all grant requirements in order to avoid reimbursing the federal government for funds received in the past. Mile Hi has disagreed with the City’s position. According to the original interim settlement agreement and the extension of the interim settlement agreement, if the City and Mile Hi do not agree to terms regarding lease payments and other issues or both agree to again extend the agreement, each party has reserved its rights with respect to legal arguments regarding the 2007 lease in question. The interim settlement agreement was entered into under the City Attorney’s authority—with the concurrence of the City Manager—to settle threatened or pending litigation on terms in the best interest of the City pursuant to Longmont Municipal Code 2.20.061. No specific noise mitigation actions are outlined in the agreement, and the City has made no commitments to Mile Hi other than to temporarily halt efforts to collect past lease payments that Mile Hi may owe for 2007 through a portion of 2014. Regarding the purpose of the agreement, City Manager Harold Dominguez stated, “Extending interim agreement provides a negotiating window through the end of October to continue productive discussions on a global settlement of the Mile-Hi issues including the lease dispute, future development of the leased airport property in question, and implementation of noise mitigation measures.” Mile Hi owner Frank Casares agreed, “I am pleased with the collaborative nature of the negotiations to date, and am committed to seeking a long term resolution of these issues in partnership with the City.” In addition to the payments received to date, according to the agreement extension, Mile Hi will make an additional three payments of $4,070 each through the end of October. *********************************************************** MY RESPONSE *********************************************************** The South Parcel lease was signed in 2007 (see attached) and the initial annual amount was $41,566.29. But Mile-Hi never paid a dime, even though they have enjoyed exclusive use of this area since 2007. The lease was considered “inactive” because Mile-Hi did not obtain a grading permit to begin development on their expanded facility. The article states, incorrectly, that the 4.15 acre parcel, known as the South Parcel, is used for a “landing zone” and to house parachutes and related equipment. This parcel is definitely not the designated “landing zone”, aka parachute landing area. As the attached photo shows, there is a parking lot, a staging area where dozens of skydivers wait for their flight, and a quonset hut, which is used as a parachute packing tent. The parachutist in the photo does appear to be landing in this area, but it is not the intended purpose, especially within close proximity of buildings. The landing zone, aka drop zone, is a separate parcel that covers roughly 40 adjacent acres, as shown in the attached airport photo. Mile-Hi made no payments on the drop zone land from June 1999 until late 2014. According to the clerk’s office, in 2014 they paid the required annual fee of $7,500 for use of the drop zone. I wrote about this lease and the drop zone in an editorial back in November 2014, which prompted the review of Mile-Hi’s lease and their required payment for the drop zone. Kimberly Gibbs: Firms using longmont airport should pay a fee (Link) http://www.timescall.com/columnists/opinion-local/ci_27019973/kimberly-gibbs-firms-using-longmont-airport-should-pay Kimberly Gibbs: Firms using Longmont airport should pay ... The Colorado Division of Aeronautics is taking some well-deserved heat for grossly overestimating next year's tax revenue from aviation fuel sales. View on www.timescall.com Preview by Yahoo Finally, the article states that the airport has received FAA grants and therefore must “comply with grant requirements” or they will be forced to reimburse the federal government for past funding. This is a scare tactic and it’s completely inaccurate. The FAA can certainly suspend FUTURE grants if they disagree with an airport’s decision, but in this case they would not pursue reimbursement for past grants. The South County Airport in Santa Clara, CA is a perfect example. Four years ago they refused to designate an on-site drop zone because of safety concerns. The FAA suspended their future grants. You can read about it here: Federal funding grounded at airport (Link) http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news/san_martin/update-federal-funding-grounded-at-airport/article_9a786db0-9244-11e2-94b8-001a4bcf6878.html These negotiations should be of concern to all Longmont citizens and federal taxpayers who are subsizing the airport so that airport users can have a free ride. I hope you will contact the Longmont City Council to express your views. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________ And the most recent; ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************** EDITORIALS *********************************************************** Many thanks to all who have taken the time to write letters to the newspaper and call the TC-Line! Please take a moment to Like the editorials and add a supporting comment. Keep the letters flowing! 8/15 GUEST OPINIONS http://www.timescall.com/columnists/opinion-local/ci_28644071/kelly-mahoney-longmont-missing-out-mile-hi-skydiving Mile-Hi’s preferential treatment (Link) http://www.timescall.com/columnists/opinion-local/ci_28644071/kelly-mahoney-longmont-missing-out-mile-hi-skydiving BY KELLY MAHONEY The following is presented to clear up public misunderstanding surrounding the details of Mile-Hi Skydiving’s most controversial lease and drop zone permit at our airport. It is also intended to shine the light on the preferential treatment Mile-Hi has received and how this has deprived the airport of arguably over $350,000. These funds could have been used for the improvements the airport so desperately needs. On Oct. 2, 2007, Mile-Hi entered into Vance Brand Municipal Airport South Parcel 11SD Lease agreement for exclusive use of 4.15 acres. Mile-Hi uses this land as the staging area for its skydiving operations. This lease does not cover land used for its drop zone. The city agreed that payments for the 11SD lease were to begin within 30 days following the issuance of a grading permit for the construction of the project. However, Mile-Hi never obtained a grading permit and was never required to pay for the usage of 4.15 acres under this lease. Assuming no cumulative inflation, the city has missed out on $41,566.29 per year since 2007, for a total through October 2014 of $290,964.03. Additionally in mid-2012, the city approved Mile-Hi to build a parachute packing tent on this property. In the application for the site plan waiver of the tent, Mile-Hi states that the days/ hours of operation would be 7:30 a.m. to 8 p.m. Thursday through Monday and the maximum number of people would be 15. Currently, Mile-Hi still has exclusive use over this parcel of land and has not yet paid on the Oct. 2, 2007, lease. Since the arrival of new airport management, the city has realized the 11SD lease is inactive and on March 20 entered into a short-term agreement with Mile-Hi. Listed below are the amounts and due dates of those payments as listed in this short term agreement: • $8000 by March 20; • $12,281.79 by April 10; • $12,281. 79 by May 10; • $4070.45 by June 1. The total amount in the short-term agreement is $36,634.03. Using the date of the receipts from the city clerk, the city received the following: • Mile-Hi paid $8,000 on April 2— late payment for March 20 due date. • Mile-Hi paid $12,281.79 on April 15 — payment for April 10 due date. • Mile-Hi paid nothing in May. • Mile-Hi paid May’s and June’s payment total of $16,352.24 on June 2. The city accepted all late payments; Mile-Hi satisfied the short-term agreement. This short-term agreement expired June 30, and Mile-Hi is once again operating under the “inactive” original 11SD lease. The city is working toward another short-term agreement. Mile-Hi apparently believes it should have free access to airport property. Separately, Mile-Hi originally had a Parachute Jumper Parcel lease signed Nov 1, 1996, that could be renewed every three years. In June 1999, the drop zone was relocated by airport management to 40 acres on the south side of the airport, which is the current location of the drop zone. Mile-Hi made the last payment in June 1999, and the lease was never renewed. Between June 1999 and 2007, no lease or city code covered the usage of the drop zone and thus, Mile-Hi never was required to pay for exclusive usage of the drop zone during this time period. In 2007, the city code was updated (Ord. No. O-2007-89) and usage of the 40 acres for a drop zone required a permit and applicable fees per City Code 4.64.040 – Public use areas permits and fees. However, Mile-Hi still was never required to pay for the exclusive use of the drop zone from 2007 through 2014. Mile-Hi finally made its first payment ever on the 40-acre drop zone in January 2015 for the full amount of $7,500. Will the city collect all the missed payments starting in 2007 through 2014? The city is definitely missing out on at least eight years (2007-2014) of payments of $7,500 per year for a total of $60,000. In summary, between the 11SD lease and drop zone, Mile-Hi should be responsible for all back payments equating to more than $350,000 for its exclusive use of public airport property. I encourage you to reach out to city council and the airport management to address the preferential treatment and back payments in the on-going negotiations with Mile-Hi. Kelly Mahoney is a Longmont resident. ******************************************************** More and more will ask for less noise How could a fair-minded judge decide that it was right to punish the Citizens For Quiet Skies for trying to stop the droning of the Mile-Hi Skydiving planes over the north Boulder and southwest Longmont valley? How could a judge, appointed by the people, feel it is a just decision to allow Mile-Hi to continue to bombard these same citizens with constant noise day in and day out? If you live anywhere near this area, you live with the incessant buzzing of drop planes, sometimes three planes in the air at the same time. The buzz goes on for up to 12 hours a day, especially on the weekends… a time when families are out in their backyards, seeking a little quiet rejuvenation after a long work week. But, instead, starting at around 8 a.m., it sounds like your neighbor is mowing his lawn. All. Day. Long. I feel so sorry for the courageous Kimberly Gibbs, leader of Citizens For Quiet Skies, and her neighbors, who are now enduring a constant barrage of flyovers. Sounds like a bullying tactic to me. I would like to ask Frank Casares, owner of Mile-Hi Skydiving, why he thinks it’s OK to punish those who speak out against this invasive noise. Why not work with the community to come up with some viable solutions? Unfortunately, it seems that disturbing thousands of people every day isn’t something that disturbs Mr. Casares in the least. Mile-Hi should realize that the longer this droning continues, more and more people will join together to try to stop the violation of their right to the “quiet enjoyment” of their own property. H.E. Owen Niwot ******************************************************** TC 8/12 Teresa Foster: Judge doesn’t hear the needs of the many Judge LaBuda’s decision seems entirely unfair. Swayed judgment describes her punitive ruling against Citizens for Quiet Skies. Why make Citizens for Quiet Skies pay for legal fees, etc.? Did Judge LaBuda not really “hear” the testimony? Did she come out to listen to the noise when Mile-Hi wasn’t aware? Silly of her to have a scheduled visit so that Mile-Hi Skydiving could be on their best behavior! As someone who lived at ground zero (Airport and Nelson) from 2006 to 2013, I can vouch for the “off-thecharts” noise levels from the Twin Otter. Sitting outside to enjoy our backyards with friends and family was not possible on weekends and weekday afternoons. Many ask, “Why did you buy in the airport zone?” The noise wasn’t bad when I moved there, but then Mile-Hi brought in the dreaded Twin Otter, and later, a second Twin Otter. We, at ground zero, and thousands of others within Longmont and outside of the city in Boulder County have been “droned out” from dawn till dusk on weekends and on weekdays ever since the Twin Otters arrived. The noise constantly blasts us every day. This is complete and utter abuse. Mile-Hi is a perpetrator abusing a large population! Why can’t Judge LaBuda see the truth? The question we need to ask is: Why does the City of Longmont allow the needs of the few over the needs of the many? Why do we (those affected) continue to let corporate interests intrude on our lives? I implore you to watch damning evidence on a video recorded September 2011 in my front yard: youtube.com/ watch?v=GA5FXE1lKCI. This video was pulled from the trial. Wonder why. Teresa Foster Longmont *********************************************************** TC-LINE *********************************************************** 8/15 Quiet Skies whining • Now the Quiet Skies group were asking city council members to lobby the U.S. Representative to Colorado Jared Polis to address noise concerns from communities across the country. Now this has turned into a country airport? ... All you got is more whiners who want to keep jumping on the bandwagon. I’d say airplane but of course they’ve never been on an airplane in their life. • You know what this town needs? A group calling itself Citizens for Quiet Citizens. Enough is enough. Stop with the noise pollution. The airport and TABOR I’ve noticed no one protesting skydiving per se here, but I have learned that the city receives quite a bit of money by virtue of having this airport. Well, how to reconcile this ... couple of noisy airplanes. Obviously, the city does not wish to do away with any of the activities at the airport. So it seems to be up to the city to find other sources of revenue or we should work to eliminate TABOR. Yet another reason. 8/14 Citizens for Quiet Skies inspiring I’ve been inspired by the Citizens for Quiet Skies and their efforts. So, I’m going to form the Citizens for Quiet Backyards. So, that we don’t have any barking dogs at al and have them outlawed in Longmont. And also citizens for Quiet Streets. Any hot rods, any motorcycles are banned from our streets. Why just stop at the skies? 8/10 Flood victims wouldn’t whine about noise Over the last couple of years, I’ve heard a lot more “woe is me” from these Quiet Skies people than from all of those whose homes were damaged or destroyed by the floods. I’m sure they’d gladly trade places with you and wouldn’t raise a peep about noise. Oh, and I sure hope the Quiet Skies whiners don’t have a single piece of powered yard equipment, because that would be pretty hypocritical, wouldn’t it? *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION *********************************************************** Write a letter to the editor. Send your thoughtful letter, 300 words or less (be sure to include your address and phone number), to: Times Call: [email protected] Daily Camera: [email protected] Pressed for time? Call the TC-Line and leave a comment: 720-494-5485 ***************************************** ONLINE RESOURCES ***************************************** TRACK FLIGHTS WITH WEBTRAK http://webtrak5.bksv.com/den3 QUIET SKIES Web Site: CitizensForQuietSkies.org LIKE US ON FACEbook We’re on Twitter too To register a noise complaint: http://citizensforquietskies.org/help/complaint/ Kelly Mahoney: Longmont missing out on Mile-Hi Skydivi... The following is presented to clear up public misunderstanding surrounding the details of Mile-Hi Skydiving's most controversial lease and drop zone permit at our a... View on www.timescall.com Preview by Yahoo Kelly Mahoney: Longmont missing out on Mile-Hi Skydivi... The following is presented to clear up public misunderstanding surrounding the details of Mile-Hi Skydiving's most controversial lease and drop zone permit at our a... View on www.timescall.com (link) http://www.timescall.com/columnists/opinion-local/ci_28644071/kelly-mahoney-longmont-missing-out-mile-hi-skydiving
  2. Looks like the only negative in that might be if the parachute landing area is located elsewhere and not at the airport,,,but who knows, it just may be even closer to Kimmie's house, where she could enjoy the joyful sounds of tandem passengers over-amped during their canopy ride to the LZ! Just a thought!
  3. At the current rate America is going, it just may be covered!!!
  4. It's so we can make fun of and ridicule the weird kid in the back of the classroom. Maybe she'll blow a fuse someday and everybody within CQS will back off and stop helping her. Ridiculing is fun. Where's the "Like" button??
  5. Here's the email I just received a little while ago! The question I have now is, if that guy lived in the departure patterns at Laguardia, what the hell does he want? I think he just wants everyone to be as miserable as they are! ** Note I'm adding the links beside the titles, in the email, those links were inline text clicky links. ___________________________________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************** EDITORIALS - Sunday, Aug. 9 *********************************************************** Many thanks to all who have taken the time to write letters to the newspaper and call the TC-Line! Please take a moment to Like the editorials and add a supporting comment. Keep the letters flowing! 1. Keep going, Quiet Skies (link for that story; http://www.timescall.com/opinion/letterstotheeditor/ci_28607867/stephen-henninger-keep-going-quiet-skies ) Fight on, Quiet Skies. Our world is making a racket in the modern age. The beauty of silence and quiet is widely ignored— even embraced by the inconsiderate. The Twin Otter jump plane is one noisy machine in its climbs with heavy loads. It is involved in a sport, not a particularly essential or noble undertaking. It is a machine that could be modernized with better propellers and engines, but cranks along on older technology. Living as I did beneath the departure patterns near LaGuardia Airport, I know the racket of older aircraft, the mess they made of dinner conversation and the shaking of china on the shelves. But at least those flights had destinations and purpose for travelers and commerce. Skydiving operations are simply for fun, which is fine, but it ruins the peace across the land— over and over again all day. All for sport. Even the Grand Canyon is respected more than Longmont and Niwot with its quieter tourist overflights. For those that say noise is no big deal, that there are more important issues in our world, they just don’t seem to get it, or more likely simply don’t want to. So keep going Quiet Skies. You have been abused by an arrogant judgment against you, and you are the recipient of scorn by an uncaring element of the public and judicial abuses alike. America kinder and gentler? Far from it these days. Stephen Henninger Firestone ********************************************************** 2. Aviation Impact Reform: UPDATE: Citizens for Quiet Skies Legal Action in Longmont, CO (Link; http://aireform.com/update-citizens-for-quiet-skies-legal-action-in-longmont-co/ ) *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION *********************************************************** Write a letter to the editor. Send your thoughtful letter, 300 words or less (be sure to include your address and phone number), to: Times Call: [email protected] Daily Camera: [email protected] Pressed for time? Call the TC-Line and leave a comment: 720-494-5485 w.linkedin.com/in/kimberlygibbs UPDATE: Citizens for Quiet Skies Legal Action in Longm... In her decision on May 21st, U.S. District Court Judge LaBuda sided with Mile-Hi Skydiving. At the root of Judge LaBuda’s decision was a total deference to FAA, the... View on aireform.com (Link; http://aireform.com/update-citizens-for-quiet-skies-legal-action-in-longmont-co/ ) Preview by Yahoo
  6. If they get their way with the Mile High Lawsuit, I guarantee you the racetrack (among other things) is next. These people think they're entitled! They want it their way, and will not stop here. I guess my point was, being there's a race track that's as close, and they inherently make a lot more noise, why is she targeting the DZ which makes less noise, and what little bit of noise that they do make only lasts for a couple of mins in here area, provided they even go near her place? It looks like that would make her whole so called "Case" more frivolous!
  7. Here's an interesting morsel of info that you guys at Mile High may find useful if you haven't already! Seems that kimmy has a loud ass Nascar race track as close, and perhaps a little closer than the Airport! http://coloradospeedway.com/
  8. Ok kids, here's copies of two emails she sent out today! Enjoy and may we all get a good laugh!! ____________________________________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************** EDITORIALS *********************************************************** Many thanks to all who have taken the time to write letters to the newspaper and call the TC-Line! Please take a moment to Like the editorials and add a supporting comment. Keep the letters flowing! Kim Schafer: Plane noise problem is real I am the owner of a condo in north Boulder, but I am frequently at my boyfriend's home at Cardinal Lane, which is located in Longmont/Niwot. I can attest to the very distracting loud and frequent plane noise in the area when we are outside in the yard; you can also hear it in the house when the windows are open. This is ridiculous that the noise is being dismissed, and the judge appears to be so heavily in favor of one party. It's making a further mockery of our judicial system and tearing the social fabric of neighborhoods. It is already a challenge in the area to deal with the many bikers and road closures due to races. Now when homeowners are at home, they are bombarded with airplane noise. Again, this is not supportive of an overall plan to care for and represent ALL citizens, and these homeowners also pay taxes. Why aren't they being responded to more fairly? Kim Schafer Boulder Diane Wood: Where’s data that proves airport’s economic boost? In the editorial by Shawn Lewis recently published in the Times-Call, he stated that CDOT reported that Vance Brand Airport brings in over $2 million each month to the city of Longmont. Also, according to the CDT assessment, 22,000 visitors arrive in Colorado via Vance Brand every year, making it one of the business general aviation airports in the state. Let’s estimate that during the calendar year of 365 days, Colorado would have 220 fair weather days allowing flights in and out of Vance Brand Airport. This would mean that out of these fair weather days, 100 visitors would fly into Vance Brand. Really? If people are pouring into Colorado, they are doing so by flying into DIA. You have to wonder how CDOT knows this. In an interview with Tim Barth, the previous airport manager, the device used to count aircraft operations was removed in the late 1990s. No count of operations has been available since. There is no control tower and no one who monitors flight operations. There is no head count of people entering and leaving the facility. No real provision for security that might allow us a look into what goes on each day. There simply is no credible data available. Without data on trends in things like flight operations there is no way to measure the economic output of Vance Brand. How can CDOT confirm the factual basis for their numbers? CDOT is biased in favor of general aviation airports. The CDOT aeronautics director responsible for this flawed report recently visited the Longmont Airport assuring their help. CDOT’s report gave a glowing report, but, CDOT, where is the data to support this? Diane Wood Longmont Raymond Cooper: Home ownership is the bigger economic engine I hope that the airport’s economic engine in Shawn Lewis and David Slayter’s recent opinion is not a plane that floods Longmont and Boulder County neighborhoods with noise throughout the day and particularly heavy and constant on weekends. I think the price homeowners pay for economic development of this type is too high. There is another business in Longmont that surpasses the airport for bringing in jobs, visitors and tourists into the area: home building. A study by the Home Builder’s Association in 2013 indicates that the one year local impact in the Denver area is over $3.25 billion. Boulder County, which includes Longmont, is in this study. The economic impact of housing is greatest in the “occupancy phase.” This is where secondary, tertiary and quaternary ripple effects occur as money from new homeowners and renters moves into the local economy creating significant and sustained revenue for the city. It is this local homeowner economy that the city of Longmont elected officials need to carefully support and grow. House costs are rising quickly, availability is low and more affordable housing is needed to meet the demand. The question that needs to be asked is if land available for development is best served in support of an airport engine with small businesses that cater to hobbyists. Or is it economically a better decision for land use to be for home building where there are significantly higher local economic benefits and a much broader segment of the people are served? When issues such as airplane nuisance noise interferes with the enjoyment of homeowner life, it is the larger economy generated by homeowners in Longmont that is impacted. And while this homeowner economic engine might not be as loud as airplane noise, it is gaining strength and determined to cause change. Raymond Cooper Longmont Michelle Sullivan: Let's find middle ground on plane noise I have lived in Longmont for over 13 years. The noise from the skydiving planes has been a growing issue, especially since they added the newer plane. At times when my husband and I are outside, enjoying our otherwise beautiful back yard, we have to halt our conversation when the plane is climbing because we literally cannot hear each other talk. It is time for this to stop. If you are a citizen affected in the area, please do something to help this fight. It appears to me that the judge was extremely bias and the Citizens for Quiet Skies were not treated fairly. I found this especially true the day the judge did a site visit to hear the plane. I was outside the entire day, and I assure you that was the quietest I have ever heard the plane climb. If the judge wanted to be totally fair and hear an accurate flight she should not have announced when she was listening. I believe the judge's efforts to punish the group further by the outrageous award for attorney fee's is unfair. Furthermore, it was disrespectful to call the lawsuit frivolous. During the summer especially, it is miserable to be outside listening to a 12-hour stint of unreasonable noise, not to mention we can clearly hear it in our house all day long. Surely there is a middle ground here. Michelle Sullivan Longmont Kimberly Gibbs: No Ceiling for Noise *********************************************************** TC-LINE COMMENTS *********************************************************** Saturday 8/8: Support the airport As a citizen and resident of Longmont, I think this is completely ridiculous. We need to support the airport. We need to support the businesses at the airport. And this lady with her frivolous lawsuit, she just needs to stop it and go away. Monday 8/3: When will it end? Here I thought the airplane noise lawsuit was finally over and then at the very end of your article Kimberly Gibbs and Citizens for Quiet Skies are going to appeal, again. When (does) this end for this woman? T-C Line ground rules Sound off, but please remember: • Don’t reference locally written opinions. • Don’t reference criminal or civil court cases. • Don’t attack private citizens. • Don’t reference candidates for office. • Keep it brief. • Calls may be shortened. • We don’t publish all calls. *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION *********************************************************** Write a letter to the editor. Send your thoughtful letter, 300 words or less (be sure to include your address and phone number), to: Times Call: [email protected] Daily Camera: [email protected] Pressed for time? Call the TC-Line and leave a comment: 720-494-5485 __________________________________________________________________________________________________ And the second email! __________________________________________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************** FUNDRAISING FOR THE APPEAL *********************************************************** 1. Please let me know right away if you mailed a check and did not receive a thank you note from me. The Longmont rural postal delivery has been unreliable for nearly a month and I have reported concerns to the post office. If I didn’t send you a note, that means I didn’t receive your check. 2. If you would like to help us out please send a check to the address below. We appreciate both small and large donations for the legal fund. Please make your check payable to Citizens For Quiet Skies: 7468 Mt. Sherman Road Longmont, CO 80503 3. We delivered the first payment to the legal team – many thanks to all of you who have contributed to our legal expenses (see attached photos.) The final payment is due in early 2016. After this email we will take a break from fundraising. ***************************************** UPCOMING EVENTS ***************************************** 1. TOWN HALL MEETING WITH CONGRESSMAN JARED POLIS WHEN: Mon, August 10th from 1:30 to 4:00 pm WHERE: 1644 Walnut Street, Boulder, CO We will attend and advocate for provisions in the FAA Reauthorization. If you plan to attend, please RSVP to reserve time to speak with Congressman Polis. Big Block of Cheese Day Boulder - U.S. Representative Jared Polis image Big Block of Cheese Day Boulder - U.S. Representative Ja... RSVP to our Big Block of Cheese Day in Boulder! In 1837 President Andrew Jackson had an idea: let the people eat cheese…at the White House. View on polis.house.gov Preview by Yahoo 2. NIWOT COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION MONTHLY BOARD MEETING I will give a brief presentation at the NCA meeting next week. Please join us if you are a member, or are considering becoming a member. WHEN: Wed., August 12 at 7:00 pm WHERE: Mountain View Fire Protection District Firehouse #4 8500 Niwot Road, Niwot, CO NCA Web site: http://niwot.org/ ***************************************** ONLINE RESOURCES ***************************************** TRACK FLIGHTS WITH WEBTRAK: http://webtrak5.bksv.com/den3 QUIET SKIES Web Site: CitizensForQuietSkies.org LIKE US ON FACEBOOK We’re on Twitter too To register a noise complaint: http://citizensforquietskies.org/help/complaint/
  9. Just when I thought these people couldn't get any more ridiculous. Yeah, and just how far away was it that she lives from the Airport??
  10. Here's the two latest emails from KG! It's kinda long, so I'm copy and pasting rather than doing screenshots. *********************************************************** IN THE NEWS *********************************************************** TIMES CALL - 8/4/2015 OPEN FORUM Citizens for Quiet Skies was not treated fairly I have lived in Longmont for more than 13 years. The noise from the skydiving planes has been a growing issue, especially since they added the newer plane. At times when my husband and I are outside, enjoying our otherwise beautiful back yard, we have to halt our conversation when the plane is climbing because we literally cannot hear each other talk. It is time for this to stop. If you are a citizen affected in the area, please do something to help this fight. It appears to me that the judge was extremely biased and Citizens for Quiet Skies was not treated fairly. I found this especially true the day the judge did a site visit to hear the plane. I was outside the entire day and I assure that was the quietest I have ever heard the plane climb. If the judge wanted to be totally fair and hear an accurate flight she should not have announced when she was listening. I believe the judge’s efforts to punish the group further by the outrageous award for attorney fees is unfair. Furthermore, it was disrespectful to call the lawsuit frivolous. During the summer especially, it is miserable to be outside listening to a 12-hour stint of unreasonable noise, not to mention we can clearly hear it in our house all day long. Surely there is a middle ground here. Michelle Sullivan Longmont *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION *********************************************************** Write a letter to the editor To be considered for printing, letters must be timely and relevant. In the recent editorial by Slater/Lewis, they claimed that future development near the airport will encourage "commercial" over "residential" development. How would that plan provide relief to current Longmont residents? "...In addition to ensuring that Vance Brand remains an economic engine for the community, the city of Longmont will continue working to address noise concerns. To that end, we will encourage commercial development over residential development near the airport as called for in the Longmont Area Comprehensive Plan. ..." How does that fit with the proposed 276-unit Renaissance Village apartment complex, which by any reasonable standard would be "near the airport?" The city council will discuss this proposal tonight. Send your thoughtful letter, 300 words or less (be sure to include your address and phone number), to: Times Call: [email protected] Daily Camera: [email protected] Pressed for time? Call the TC-Line and leave a comment: 720-494-5485 _______________________________________________________________________________________ Here's the Letter from Yesterday; _______________________________________________________________________________________ ********************************************************** TC-LINE COMMENTS - T-C LINE 720-494-5485 *********************************************************** No local control As a conservative, I am shocked that a business can abuse the local citizenry ... act with impunity, (be) shielded by federal regulation and be subject to no local control. Think about this the next time you enter the polling booth. Noisemaker One can wonder about the city fathers here in Longmont who support the business that’s a noisemaker out ... west of town. In fact, that airplane reminds me of a dentist’s drill. And yet what do they do with a guy who’s trying to earn an honest living repairing windshields? I’d much rather have a windshield repairman ... than a whole lot of airplane noise. Not allowed space Apparently the skydivers are the only ones who continuously get their comments printed in the T-C Line. Those of us who have to endure the plane noise 24/7 aren’t allowed the same newspaper space. Before Mile-Hi We’re getting sick and tired of people telling us we should not have bought a property by the airport. We purchased our home in Lakeshore in 1977. The airport was a small airport for mostly local residents— flying ranchers, for example. ... The people who say we should not have bought a house 2 miles from the airport in 1977 don’t know any difference between what my dog leaves in the backyard and apple butter. *********************************************************** LETTERS TO THE EDITOR *********************************************************** Enough is enough with Quiet Skies When I first moved to Colorado, there appeared on the front page of the “Daily Camera” a photo showing the mayor of Nederland displaying an obscene gesture to an airliner flying overhead. Apparently, she didn’t like flight patterns into the then-new DIA. I thought this was the most moronic expression of selfish behavior I’d ever seen, and certainly not worthy of front page coverage in any reputable newspaper. I was wrong, newspaper coverage can indeed get worse. I had thought the fervor caused by Citizen (sic) for Quiet Skies was over when the judge threw out their frivolous lawsuit over aircraft noise related to skydiver flights. But no, they are still at it. Aided and abetted by “Times-Call” editorial space, they now want us to end significant federal funding for the airport. It’s becoming obvious that their objective is to shut down aircraft flying anywhere near where they happen to be. Those of us who love flying, enjoy the economic benefits of a vibrant local airport or rely on aircraft for transportation needs are off their radar screen. They should either move elsewhere, or buy a louder lawn mower. Enough is enough already, end publicity for Quiet Skies. Gerry Cole Longmont *********************************************************** TAKE ACTION *********************************************************** Write a letter to the editor Send your thoughtful letter, 300 words or less (be sure to include your address and phone number), to: Times Call: [email protected] Daily Camera: [email protected] Pressed for time? Call the TC-Line and leave a comment:: 720-494-5485
  11. Here's the next email I got from her! It's too long to do a screenshot, so here's a copy of it; _____________________________________________________________________________ Dear Friends, As you can imagine, the past couple of days have been very difficult for the plaintiffs. Following the award for "attorney fees", we are now faced with devastating financial assessments of more than $100,000. It is sickening, and feels like a surreal nightmare – the new rock bottom. The judge’s efforts to punish us even further with the outrageous award for attorney fees and her claim that our lawsuit was “frivolous” is utterly shocking. No doubt it has taken the wind out of our sails. This weekend, as you listen to the constant droning of the jump planes, ask yourself, is this a frivolous and petty issue? When things are going poorly there is a natural tendency to want to blame someone - to make sense out of an unbelievable situation. I’m sure that some people blame me. After all, I got us into this mess. Others may blame our legal team for letting this happen to us, even though they are just as flabbergasted at the judge’s award as we are. I hope you will take a step back and consider where the blame really lies for this travesty, and share my hope that this will - must - right itself on the appeal. We have every reason to stand tall and proud – and continue moving forward. For many years, we have patiently worked toward reasonable and fair-minded regulations to address the outrageous and inescapable noise from the jump planes. It's a problem that should have been solved long ago with little effort. We have conducted ourselves with integrity and high ethical standards, even when faced with a tsunami of vicious and mean-spirited personal attacks. While I’m very grateful for the excellent letter below in today’s Camera, I do not need pity, and I have no intention of being a martyr. We need your help and we need every one of our supporters to take a stand and DO SOMETHING now. This is no time to become paralyzed and throw in the towel. We are still fundraising for the appeal. Please make a contribution TODAY at whatever level you can afford – we will make the first payment to the legal team next week. All donations made by our supporters go directly to the appeal expenses. We also need your letters to the editor – long or short, please take the time to write. If you can’t write a letter then call the T-C Line. Citizens For Quiet Skies is a CITIZEN GROUP that relies on participation from our supporters - and that means YOU. Now, let’s go get it, and have a great weekend everyone! -Kim
  12. I guess she hasn't successfully blocked me from her email list, the attachments are screenshots of the emails I received from KG! And YES! I did crop the email address so she won't know which one to block!
  13. Ooh! I just had a flash of inspiration: We convince Gibbs that Skyride is the biggest proponent of skydiving in the nation. Then we sit back with a big bowl of popcorn. Now which side do I cheer? Such a dilemma... Damn!! That's one of the best ideas I've heard yet! LMAO! But I think I would cheer for KG because Cary Q has done much more in the grand scheme of things to hurt skydiving than she could ever fathom!
  14. OMG!!! DAMN! You posted EXACTLY what I was going to say!!!!!
  15. And it appears that she even has a pre-written letter of sorts to send to the elected officials, so it looks to me like, if the recipients start receiving the same letter over and over, wouldn't they be more inclined to ignore/dismiss the whole subject and write it off to her being the nutcase that she is?
  16. http://www.timescall.com/opinion/letterstotheeditor/ci_28489763/audrey-dunn-sick-hearing-whining-about-noise
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  21. YES!! They never stopped, just shut down the 1 800 Skyride name, rebranded and started some new names, ie; Spot Reservations and the newest known name, Rushcube! Refuse to Lose!!! Failure is NOT an option! 1800skyrideripoff.com Nashvilleskydiving.org
  22. Hmmm? If Miss Kimmy had a hobby like that, this whole mess would never have started. I remember at my old DZ, there was a skydiver chick who would openly tell you that was her hobby! And she was serious! I was married at the time, and didn't give any consideration to seizing the opportunity to partake, but I know of some that did!
  23. A wind turbine in front of her mouth should work. Would that qualify as a "Blow Job"?