CReWpilot

actually, it has more to due with angle of attack. When you make a toggle turn, you force the side of the canopy you pulled the toggle on to have a less agressive angle of attack. That is why a canopy turns (Brian G., i know you can give a much better explanation on this). So when you do a toggle turn, one side of the canopy is already pitched up. What happens if you need to bail out of the turn? Bad things. You basically only have one side of the canopy with all of its flare left. The side you turned with is already pitched up. A riser turn, on the other hand, does the opposite. Say you do a right toggle turn, it is accomplished by putting the right side of the canopy in a less aggressive angle of attack. On the other hand, a right riser turn, you put the right side of the canopy in a more aggressive angle of attack. Say you need to bail out, with a riser turn, you still have ALL of your flare left to try and save your ass. Anyway, i hope i haven't confused anyone, if i have, someone else please explain it better.

I don't lurk around here that much and rarely ever do I post, so the majority of you do not know me. From what I have seen, there is alot of advice being given out by people who, honestly, don't have the experience to give it. I am not trying to step on anybodies toes, but there are alot of people here, (can't make a real judgement since I only know the few of you that jump at my DZ) who seem to be way in over there heads. Now those few of you that do know me will probably say the same thing about me. And yes, I do alot of things that most jumpers think to be a little "too much." Maybe they are right, maybe they aren't. But on the same note, I do it with advice and guidance from people who have been there, have seen what can happen, know wheter or not I am ready and aren't afraid to tell me if I am not. And I listen to them. One thing that I hear over and over here is the phrase "you don't know my skill level." This is usually coming from someone with less jumps than me. This bothers me. More times than not, especcially with just a few hundred jumps, the person that is most ignorant of your skill level is yourself. You get that D-License complex. All of a sudden you know everything. New jumpers start to come up and ask you questions and some of you have probably started doing coach jumps. It is very easy to to get a litlle cocky. I have done alot of new things ( and bought alot of beer) in the past year. And the most noticable thing I have learned, is that the guys a I jump with have a much better knowledge of my skill level than I do. There has been times when I thought I was ready to do something, and I wasn't. There has also been times when I thought I wasn't, and I was ready. The guys I jump with were always able to tell me if I was ready or not, and 99% of the time, they were right. With 400 hundred jumps it is hard to really know what you are fully capable of. Knowing this rarely ever will I give somone advice on how to do any of the things I do other than basic safety advice. Advice on subjects that we all should know. I would never go and give someone advice on how to do a hook turn or how to pack a BASE rig. I ONLY have 400 jumps. When someone comes to me and asks me a question like this I always will refer them to someone else. WIth 400 hundred jumps, I don't know my ass from a hole in the ground. I have a little bit of knowledge about CReW and a little bit about canopies and packing techniques. THAT"S ALL. But this knowledge mostly comes from the expereince of the people I jump with. So i really can't claim it as my own. I haven't been there yet. With only two years in the sport, and am still VERY green. So to make my point a little clearer, before I piss anyone else off, just know who you get your advice from. I have read alot of articles here, that were completely wrong. Now I am not saying that everyone here is wrong, because most of them aren't. Alot of times it is very knowledgable people posting good things here. Chuck, Hooknswoop, RiggerRob, and many others I am leaving out because i can't remember names for shit, all take time to post answers to questions and correct mistakes from others. But to my fellow 400 jump womders, quit spitting out advice on stuff you really know nothing about and SLOW DOWN!! There is no hurry. We are not in a race to the 1st place podium at the Para-Performance Games. Take your time, you will get there. Just don't rush it. In the long run, trying to do to much, to fast is only going to slow you down. You can't swoop the ditch in a wheelchair. I am not saying not to push your limits. You will never get better if you don't, but do it slowly and with advice of QUALIFIED people who have been there. You will get alot further and alot faster than if you try to do it on your own. Anyway, apologies to those I angered, but I hope I got my point across. Getting of my soapbox now. See ya in freefall.

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Sorry, Wing loading and drag have nothing to do with each other in a downplane. Yes, a 200 lb guy under 120 will go faster than 200 lb. guy on a 220. But in a downplane, wing loading DOES NOT affect the speed. A 200 lb. guy on a 120 will have the same speed in downplane as a 100 lb. guy on 120. The smaller the canopy, the faster it goes. Regardless of wing loading. I have a 1.1:1 loading on my canopy. If i do a downplane with anyone with a smaller canopy, Their canopy out flies my in the downplane. Doesn't matter if their wing loading is more or less than mine. Only that they have a smaller canopy.

p.s. wing loading has no affect on the vertical speed of a downplane. It is all drag.

The speed in a d/p is around 75 mph. The lift generated at that speed causes the canopy to plane out with minimal loss of altitude. I have done downplanes with two fury's before and they can go alot lower than a sabre so if you broke and landed immediatly you were ALOT lower than 300 ft. and yes, Brits D/P was broke at about 70 ft. give or take a foot.