Hey Lars!d Having jumped the An-28 at your club's Dz, and successfully taken out a Sat. with some of the people from the 2 way skills camp, I can tell you it's pretty easy. We launched it a number of times without ever having it funnel. 1. ( the easiest way) Build your sat, with your hook inside the plane facing each other left and right of the plane, with your two people taking the side body grips on the ramp, feet on the edge , backs to the twilight zone. Everyone needs to be nice and tight. Launch the sat, by having your the two people with the side body grips stepping off into the twilight zone and the two people in the hook, sort of falling of sideways and opening up immediately as the two people taking the side body grips pressing the people in the hook up into the sat. build. For those of you who don't know, in Norway, they call a two way star a "hook". What happend to you at Ostre? After the Poker Meet you we didn't see you for the rest of the boogie! Anyway thanks for your positive comments about me in the forums here. I had heard about people posting comments on the skills camp and just checked in to read them. There is talk of a boogie for Oslo Fallskjermklubb at Elsinore in March. If it happens, I hope that you will come. Blue ones, Michael (Mj) " Do you want to be Better.....or do you want to be Good?"