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  1. BruceSmith

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    "...This may sound obvious, but I don't think a SOG guy would come to the Cooper party dressed in a suit and loafers..."


    Bottom line, Bobby. Do you think a SOG trooper could make it to the ground wearing loafers and a business suit?

    If you say yes, then why wouldn't such an operative wear the best disguise possible to get himself on a 727 undected in PDX at Thanksgiving.



    One could see it as a brilliant disguise. With layers underneath, even in those days they new that method.

    The stairs operation incident would rule out any one who flew on those planes for a living and had operated them before. It could also rule out any one directly involved in any super secret agent guy testing, wouldn't you say?

    Now a well trained SOG guy who heard of the testing, bingo.
    Or a some what researched skydiver, who had a little survival knowledge, oh another bingo! Of course those two types can be placed in training and parachutes.

    One could even say, an old has been, who just speculated as he sat on the ramp one day that the stairs could be lowered. Then he hatched an idea, and drew on his old military training for parachute choices. After watching a Stewardess lower the stairs on a previous flight, figures he has it all worked out.

    The hard part, putting a name on the criminal who was acting as a terrorist.

    So far, that has not happened, not even in this thread.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  2. So far the method used is speculation, yes? Since we really don't have a good eye witness account and description, we kind of make assumptions based on the limited testimony.

    Just like the "he died-he survived" discussions.

    Both sides, of both arguments, are possible. Heck he could have survived and lost the money, or kept the money and died, etc.

    Honestly, Vickie's uncle seems a better suspect at the moment, since we have no body, and with that, no answers. It all fits. (And I do not mean that in a facetious way)

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  3. quade

    ***But, to suggest someone murdered another human being, just for a story, crazy.



    If that was what she did that would be one thing. Don't blow it out of proportion though because that's NOT what she did. She said;
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    I would not put it past him to have...



    Which is something different from an actual accusation of murder.

    As for Bruce, simmer down.

    As for Jo, likewise.

    Honestly, a number of you are serial offenders and are pretty damn close to getting booted. Talk about the subject, disagree with the theories, but for goodness sake cut it with the attacks on each other. It's so old it's silly.

    As she wrote it, sure I see your point. As to her context of the post, I see mine, as do many others. It does fit her history of attack posts, personal in nature.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  4. skyjack71


    LAST NIGHT DID ME IN - I HAD A VERY IMPORTANT APPT TODAY AND I GOT VIRTUALLY NO SLEEP AFTER HIS SLANDEROUS POST![/BLUE]

    [BLUE]I WAS SO EXHAUSTED TRYING TO DO THAT LAST POST - REGARDING THE LATTER THINGS HE SAID AND THE CREEP ONLY APOLOGIZED FOR ONE THING. [/BLUE]

    Bruce is into weird THINGS! I would not put it past him to have killed COSSEY for a story! NOW, how does BRUCE feel about the table being turned. He was johnnie on the spot hounding the detectives!
    Bruce is only interested in weird things - he does not care about the TRUTH regarding Cooper.

    THIS is evident by what he writes and how he treats people. NOTE how he words his question!



    You've crossed the line there. You should be suspended from here for a while over that.

    Stick to the truth, if it doesn't support your theories, and so far it doesn't, then move one.

    But, to suggest someone murdered another human being, just for a story, crazy.:S

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  5. skyjack71

    Put these men in chutes and you might put Weber in a chute




    This doesn't put Duane Weber, common criminal, in a chute.
    But, it does answer a question you keep avoiding, the answer is "No, you can not put Duane in a chute." ( You can't even put him in the state during the time of the crime.)

    Your earlier diatribes? Terrible. you are every thing you accuse others of, and more.

    The case is still, OPEN.
    Duane, is NOT a suspect (nor KC)
    And the FBI owes you nothing in regards to this case.

    It is time to move on. You're the only sane one left thinking Duane was Cooper, the only one ignoring the facts - there is no evidence even linking him to the crime.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  6. diablopilot

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    However, when I train a tandem I always show them all of the components of the rig, I show them how it works and why. I go over airplane emergencies, I inform them how we spot, I give them an altimeter and train them to pull. I inform them on freefall skills, how to steer, control and flare the canopy.



    Which is probably one reason why you have 3000 jumps in 11 years.

    If you did 1000 jumps a year I can guarantee you would not do all that.

    You save that for the second jump.




    Funny thing about that.... I've got that 900-1000 jump per year average, 8500+ tandems, and 13,000 total, and I DO show them all of that. It's required by federal law in the US.

    As it should be. +1
    Anything less is substandard.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  7. In the end, Robert, has become, Jo.[:/]

    Same technique, same style, same method, same end -not the suspect, not even a starter.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  8. Ah yes, the Burden of Proof, it is on Robert to prove his case, thus far, it has not left the inspectors desk yet, no reason for a ADA to even take the phone call.

    Same with the other oft touted, and more often debunked, suspect.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  9. cryptocoin

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    However, when I train a tandem I always show them all of the components of the rig, I show them how it works and why. I go over airplane emergencies, I inform them how we spot, I give them an altimeter and train them to pull. I inform them on freefall skills, how to steer, control and flare the canopy.



    Which is probably one reason why you have 3000 jumps in 11 years.

    If you did 1000 jumps a year I can guarantee you would not do all that.

    You save that for the second jump.



    Why stop doing it right? For what, more $$? More jump #'s?
    [:/]

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  10. RobertMBlevins

    ***Robert, you're being obtuse.
    Your web page has many factual mistakes, like the book, and like the book, most are discussed here, you're well aware of them.
    You're a professional, act as such, fix the actual, factual mistakes, it is that simple.
    Once you do that, we all will be able to move on, including you, as you'll finally be objective enough to see KC isn't a viable suspect.

    You're starting to act like a few other childish posters here.
    (maybe grand-child-ish is a better analogy, given their age)

    Matt



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    "I have heard you..."

    Jimmy Carter, from the film Used Cars.



    Here's the problem: Everyone got an opinion, as the saying goes. We may have differing opinions on what constitutes 'factual mistakes'. That's why instead of everyone wasting their time saying that there ARE mistakes, and stamping their feet about them...shutter should just post a concise list and I will see what I can do. I want to see a final list. Until that happens, I'm not doing a thing beyond what I already did, which was to change 'bought house for cash' to 'purchased home under suspicious circumstances'. just reworded the same mistake, imo.

    This is a lot of work to modify the public PDF and the webpage. And I don't feel like doing it six or seven or a dozen times. Submit list. I will consider making changes. Then after I do, I won't have to read any more of this stuff, because I will go right down the list and show you that the changes were made. One time, one chance. Submit your requests for changes below, be specific, keep your explanations short if you can. This is a one-shot deal, so make sure you submit a proper list because I'm not doing this work a second time, nor will I being doing it for everyone who posts here, so you guys might want to put your heads together offline and agree on something final. I will look. I will do the work necessary. Otherwise, please stop whining. I hate to use that word, but I have been more than fair here and this is starting to sound like whining from a (possible) Cooperland Peanut Gallery. ;)

    You're off here. The responsibility to be factual is on you. You know your story isn't factual, it is mostly innuendo.

    Look how long it took us to get an honest and factual answer about KC and his military training?

    Like Jo's story, and they both are stories, the more even the newest of Cooper sleuths looks at your suspect, he becomes an none suspect.

    The tenacity in which you try and feign that you're not 100% behind KC as the Hijacker is very Knossish.

    The case has not been solved, and the two suspects most commonly touted here, are eliminated by their own supporters and "facts".

    Time to put those efforts on finding actual facts, evidence, and actual suspects.

    He could still be alive, sitting at a beach front bar in Mexico using his G4s as a hot spot scrolling through this thread on his Mac Book, laughing as he orders another bourbon. (Just a theory, no actual evidence to support this)

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  11. Robert, you're being obtuse.
    Your web page has many factual mistakes, like the book, and like the book, most are discussed here, you're well aware of them.
    You're a professional, act as such, fix the actual, factual mistakes, it is that simple.
    Once you do that, we all will be able to move on, including you, as you'll finally be objective enough to see KC isn't a viable suspect.

    You're starting to act like a few other childish posters here.
    (maybe grand-child-ish is a better analogy, given their age)

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  12. Robert99

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    I can put him [Duane] in a Chute...



    Jo,

    We are waiting for you to retract this. It is not the truth.

    377



    Jo, When you retract the above claim, how about also admitting that your recent claims about Duane being involved in some heroic incidents are also false. And, further, the information on the incidents you described was based on things you saw on the CIA's web page and cable TV.

    Robert99

    She actually hasn't put Weber in WA at the time of the hijacking either.

    So:
    Not in a Chute
    Not trained
    Not in the WA area at the time
    Not known for being successful as a crook
    No other actual evidence to make him a suspect. All the circumstance, gets explained away pretty easy with a common sense approach and basic deductive reasoning. Most of the story is just a "need", not about actually solving the crime.

    KC same issue with actual evidence, and like Weber, all the circumstance, gets explained away pretty easy with a common sense approach and basic deductive reasoning.

    All this thread space and band width and we still harp on two NONE suspects. :S

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  13. 377

    ******
    wasn't Cooper's demand that they stay under 10,000?

    added notes: In the transcripts Cooper doesn't say 10,000 (see photo)



    In a 21 Jan 97 Arizona Daily Star article about a presentation by Scott:

    "Once Cooper got his sack of money, he ordered Scott to fly as low and slowly as possible and drop the back steps."

    When you think about it that would be a very risky command. The crew would have been happy to drop him over the Pacific Ocean. "As low as possible" taken literally could have them flying at low AGL altitude that would have put Cooper at risk. Much safer to command a specific altitude that you know will give you enough AGL altitude to exit then perhaps freefall and then deploy.

    377

    Eh, he was a bad ass top secret super spy black ops assassin combat veteran microwave emitting radio carrying super criminal MK Ultra tripping Don Juan smoke-jumping wilderness survival expert, he just needed to tie the bag, hold his nose, pull the ripcord (on the last step) splash in, and swim in to history! All the way to Florida.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  14. MarkBennett

    ***************Well, damn!

    So much for getting on Paul's "Cowards List" now. I really wanted to make it on to that list.



    He had not come right out and said it ... but I was just this { } close... a skosh more an I would have made it.:ph34r:

    The list is short. But those on it are of a rare breed! :P

    Matt


    Am I on it, Matt? I forget. I know you're on it, but I don't know why.

    I thought you were the most courageous person at Ariel because you walked over to the DB Cooper Memorabilia corner with GC ALL BY YOURSELF. Vicki was watching your back, I think, and made an intervention after awhile. But you took the first few steps by yourself, and bought his book.

    Cajones, I say.

    I'm on the list, yes.

    But I have no idea what the second paragraph you wrote is about, I wasn't there. That must be someone else.

    Matt

    That was me who went over and talked to GreyCop in Ariel. We're both "M"'s, so easy to confuse. I couldn't make sense of his story. Vicki came over after several minutes and told him they had copies of "Ha Ha Ha" for sale and he scampered right away.

    As near as I can tell, the way to get on GreyCop's cowards list is to refuse to call him and talk about the case. I bought a copy of his book to give him a fair chance.

    But, it seems like me, Bruce and Matt are the permanent three members of that list.

    Then, I am honored!

    Yeah, I would rather discuss facts, and not get into myths.
    I truly do not believe the highjacking suspect has been named in this, or the other, thread. There has been no actual evidence or facts to make me believe otherwise.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  15. mrshutter45

    "GUYS HOW MANY YRS HAVE WE HEARD THIS ABOUT STUFF BEING DONE OFF LINE."

    Jo, sometimes it's just better to communicate off the thread while discussing things. no arguments, ego's etc. all left at the door. this is not the only place to go for Cooper discussions, plus it always ends up in arguments about candidates vs evidence on here. I wish the levels of discussion "offline" could happen on here.




    +1

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  16. BruceSmith

    *********Well, damn!

    So much for getting on Paul's "Cowards List" now. I really wanted to make it on to that list.



    He had not come right out and said it ... but I was just this { } close... a skosh more an I would have made it.:ph34r:

    The list is short. But those on it are of a rare breed! :P

    Matt


    Am I on it, Matt? I forget. I know you're on it, but I don't know why.

    I thought you were the most courageous person at Ariel because you walked over to the DB Cooper Memorabilia corner with GC ALL BY YOURSELF. Vicki was watching your back, I think, and made an intervention after awhile. But you took the first few steps by yourself, and bought his book.

    Cajones, I say.

    I'm on the list, yes.

    But I have no idea what the second paragraph you wrote is about, I wasn't there. That must be someone else.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  17. grimmie

    So what poor bastards will be freezing their asses off into the Super Bowl demo??? Anyone???:PB|:D



    I dunno, but I will envy them! Cold or not, that jump will be awesome!

    There is very few times where you can match the feeling you get when you enter the top of the stadium and hear 75,000+ people cheer your arrival! (But, that same crowd can crush your ego when you plant a "5" :P )


    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  18. Amazon

    ***Well, damn!

    So much for getting on Paul's "Cowards List" now. I really wanted to make it on to that list.



    He had not come right out and said it ... but I was just this { } close... a skosh more an I would have made it.:ph34r:

    The list is short. But those on it are of a rare breed! :P

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  19. Boogers

    *** please put on your leathers when you ride.



    I'm not touching that line.

    At least not till she gives you permission to do so!

    Sweet R6 Nat! Keep the rubber side down!

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  20. airtwardo

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    I think he has a responsibility to society and all taxpayers to communicate on a case that he is intimately familiar with. After all, we paid him - and continue to pay him in a pension - to deliver a measure of justice. I don't think he is keeping his end of the bargain.



    Really Bruce?

    I was trying to give ya the benefit of doubt regarding the issue of your ethics in journalism...but I think you're way off base if that's how you really feel.

    A civil servant has just as much right to privacy as any 'normal' citizen...a RETIRED one so much the more.

    Brings to mind the discussions about Neal Armstrong - Journalists always pined that 'we taxpayers' spent a pretty shiny dime sending him to the moon, he OWES us and the American people interviews, access, autographs...on & on.

    Well...NO he did NOT. He was simply a man hired o do a job, nowhere in the job description did it say anything about 'owing reporters' access to his life ~ ESPECIALLY during retirement.


    Your thinking on this is rather convoluted, and what's REALLY scary is you don't seem to know it.

    The pen is a pretty mighty tool. Thing is, like any tool it can be used to build or tear down.

    When you attempt to use it for retribution against someone merely wishing to exercise their constitutionally guaranteed rights...that's crossing a line of both ethics & decency.

    Your comment surprises me, and not in a good way. I urge you to reconsider that line of thinking.


    :)
    I wish to echo this.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  21. skyjack71


    Geprger stated:

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    Maybe Jo 'perceived a weak spot in the DB Cooper case and
    then took advantage to deliver a cheap shot, to advertise her
    newly formed HOMES4UBYJO Realty business.? This lady who
    says she has no internet saavy, then goes public, on the
    internet! selling houses?! And a Cooper story about Duane ?
    Launched together. Like peas in a pod. Instant stardom.



    Georger that is a cheap SHOT!
    Perhaps your memory needs a little tweeking:

    1. I retired from real estate in 2004.

    2. I kept the my home4ubyjo@aol.com because I hold an inactive license and will activate it to sell my own home. Due to my abilities to sell - I cannot NOT pay someone a 7% commission to sell my house.
    NO realtor is worth 7% & I have
    willing independent brokers who
    would allow me to do this. I keep my continueing education credits current just for this purpose. In exchange I will offer any listing I might obtain to a co-worker.

    3. Because my email address was a first of its kind and byjo is an
    ex-pression - I chose to keep it
    until the day I no longer own a home or have a need to sell my home.

    4. Therefore I am not quilty of what you are saying. Strickly an email address and not a promotion of any kind.

    5. I worked for the chains and do
    NOT hold a brokers license.

    ME THINKS you need to make postings about things you know something about - it is evident you know nothing about me or about real estate laws.

    NOW - Georger repeat after me
    "I Georger will stay on topic and not speak of things I have no knowledge of ". :ph34r:



    That last line, good idea all around.

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  22. skyjack71

    ***I have to disagree Jo. you have said numerous times if he wasn't Cooper, he was the guy on the ground. doesn't sound like an idea that popped up....



    Nothing POPPED! I was what he said himself when he realized what he had just said to me. "That's were Cooper walked out of the Woods" I said "How would you know that" He said "Maybe I was the man on the Ground".

    That is where that story came from and it is NOT made up but given to the FBI in my first interview and stated multiple time to Mr. H.

    You've contradicted yourself Jo.[:/]
    Duane wasn't "Cooper", he was a petty thief and con man, his final con is still playing out.:S

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!

  23. Yep, 1950's was the "A" model, they ran all the way up to "D" model and now the T-11 is being fielded.

    So, can we all stop talking about a cargo chute found in Amboy?

    Matt
    An Instructors first concern is student safety.
    So, start being safe, first!!!