MrBester

Very nice, thanks for the photo! I think the Dorniers are very pretty, especially from the inside with the ground vanishing rapidly below.

Another vote for the G92, for all the reasons you mention. For those who don't know it, seating is typically on two benches running the length of the cabin and jumpers straddle the benches so that they are facing fully aft. The only time it's not comfortable in there is if you're at the rear end of one of those benches, and the people who got in before you have left you virtually nothing to perch on - then it's hell. On the other hand, it gives your calves and thighs a pretty good workout! For me it's a shame that Caravans have become so prevalent in the UK, although I understand it all comes down to running and maintenance costs. In my experience, when they're full of jumpers and fuel, most are noticeably slower than other turbines. They're also cramped and the C of G rules prohibit bigger launches. I have never come across a G92 with benches. Most of my G92 jumps have been out of the HA-ACY and HA-ACZ. I know there's one stationed in the UK. HA-ACO, if I'm not mistaken - is that the one you're talking about? Would very much like to try one with benches.

My favourite: Dornier DO28 G92 - seats 15 very comfortably, really fast, big door.

There's a reason for that: Look at this Italian training video!

Agreed. But let's be honest here: England sucked ass today. They really have to take their heads out of their butts and start playing the way we know they can if they want to stand a chance against Portugal - with or without Deco/Costinha.

Man, that was definitely the ugliest match I have seen in a long time. The Netherlands were the better team for 80% of the match, they just failed to score. I'm totally not impressed with Portugal's performance and I sure hope that England kicks them out of the tournament, which I doubt though. You can't really blame the referee for all the yellow and red cards, in fact there should have been more (Figo should have been sent off for his attack on van Bommel for example...). Let's hope that Figo tries something equally dumb against Rio Ferdinand or Sol Campbell...

Never heard of international shipping?

What's up? I heard someone got their own gear? Soooo, where's my f%$§in beer?

Something like that?

I got mine 2 weeks ago and am still waiting to jump it... Bloody winter.