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Show me where I said atheist have made me do anything.

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So you've chosen to also ignore Ferguson's history.

The "history" I wonder about is the ratio of black officers, other than that or some 50 year old sin of the evil ol white folks....I'm not sure of what your suggesting.

BTW I'M pretty sure I owe you and your wife a beer at Fitz!

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What are atheists making you do that you don't want to do, or stopping you from doing that you want to do?

Read the thread John before you troll.

As for the rest......why is it that Muslims must be treated with respect as such a small % are actually terrorist, yet in your limited capacity all Christians are completely and totally 100% women controllers?

The answer is simple.

You know they aren't, your just baiting.

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I've never lived in an area where the local authorities passed laws preventing land ownership based on my skin color.
Or taken away the jobs once the feds changed that law.
Or changed laws and school districts to keep blacks from contributing to the education system for all colors.
Unemployment for blacks is STILL close to 50%, just like whitey likes.
...and whitey on the moon.

Huh?

Are we talking history or something or do you have the day off and your hammered a little early :P

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Tell us what aspects of behavior atheists are trying to force on you.

Read the thread John before you troll.

As for the rest......why is it that Muslims must be treated with respect as such a small % are actually terrorist, yet in your limited capacity all Christians are completely and totally 100% women controllers?

The answer is simple.

You know they aren't, your just baiting.

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Mark, I really am trying to be clear - and have made statements totally to the effect - but let me state as directly as I can.

I support your right to absolutely have nothing to do with religion. I will vote to keep separation of church and state just that - separate. I support most of the points you made earlier BUT possibly a difference between you and I is that I don't get very worked up about the atheist position, other than when it is that we (they) should end all religion.

I acknowledge that as a none believer you are bombarded. I'm sorry your subjected to that - but that isn't a reason to end all religion. It is a reason for people of religion to be sensitive to your rights.

These are my true beliefs, as it is for many religious people but unfortunately not all.

Oh...and hell yeah that no beer on Sunday sucks....fucking Christians

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Yes, it may very well be messy. Democracy always is. Let the chips fall where they may. any other alternative is a worse one.

I generally fall in this position.

To my way of thinking a police shooting should be investigated by people outside of the officer's on department. The problem with that is cost and the fact that when the race card is played there seems to be no answer that suits "the people" other than a preconceived answer.

I haven taken from this event that if a police office carries a weapon he/she should have body video - it would fix everything but it would cut down a lot. Of course there is a cost.....

It doesn't matter which side of the fence you fall on, or what "logic" you (or I) believe, it's the right to believe and follow your on path. I dont give a shit which side your on, stay or your side I'll stay on mine - try to force your views on me we've got a problem.

If you can't follow that simple "logic", it's not my issue.

Thanks. Just so I am clear - it is the norm for gag orders to be lifted? Or are you saying that in this case because you feel something isn't cool that the gag order should be lifted.

If the norm is for it to be lifted, than I fully agree. If the norm in Ferguson is that the gag order stays in place than I can't see the rationalization to change it for this case.

Thanks again

Andy, your a lawyer - right?

Are grand juries in that state normally gaged? If so why change the normal procedure for this case.

Serious question, I don't know.

Andy, basically are you saying that the facts don't speak well enough for the outcome or do you think that somehow the grand jury got fooled and if ______ had happen the D.W. would have gone to trail and would have been found guilty?

Are you basically of the mind set that no matter what this should have gone to trail?

To me....it appears that this was a very justifiable shooting sad as it might be.

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Christians (religion in general) are the ones that are far more intolerant that any atheist out there.

Horse shit. TK come on how many snarky comments do I make about atheist, as opposed to the "invisible man in the sky" shit comments from many atheist. Most atheist I know have a personal goal of pointing out just how "dumb" religion is. My point is the radical on BOTH sides suck.

Normiss has many good points, I absolutely believe in separation of church and state, think gays sb able to get married....ect.......

But as you say HOWEVER when you start to want to eradicate religion rather than eradicate religious intolerance ....well that's no better than my saying we should force you to go to church.

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Religion is evil and the sooner we eradicate it from the earth, the better of we are.

See this is what I don't get. I really don't care if you DON'T believe....it has no bearing on me and my beliefs but the intolerance of atheist to any forms of religion is just FUCKED UP.

Basically people are bad at times, getting rid of religion isn't going to change that. Religion just as political beliefs can by used to kill people.

The simplistic and childish view that if we all just believed like TK the world would be a better place is BS just like the nut cases that try to convince TK that he must have religion.

Like Normiss said why can't we just leave each other alone? I want to go to church than FUCK you and you anti-religious BS it's none of your fucking business.

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If you DON'T want to go to church than FUCK off with knocking on my door trying to convince me to go.

Jeez

1. I was wrong. I stated several times that the police officer would be convicted by the press. In fact he was - but in the end he wasn't.

2. While many people think the D.A. handled this wrong, it appears that there was a real effort to get the facts out.

3. The governor blew it big time.

4. It appears that M.B. was a real sure enough thug.

5. Science (like the posters here that always use "I fucking love science) seems to have proven that the office was attacked, and that he shot in defense.

6. Ferguson was damaged by a LOT of people that didn't care about M.B. and the national press didn't cover that aspect well.

So what say you? Did the system work, or did the D.W. just get off because he is white and M.B. was black?

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Of course. Even if you don't jump a Vector. I'm getting soft in my old age.

But I USED the three ring B-E-F-O-R-E the patent ran out, that's got to count for something.

Hey Bill...you didn't answer the important question. Will the movie(s) and festivity's be open to the public?

Hey Bill, can others come to watch the jump and the movie? I got NOOOOOOO desire to jump that stuff but I'd love to see the movies.....

Congrads on 50 years

Oh come on - Quade knows that congress voted to go to war BUT they were fooled buy that evil Bush.

He can't close Gitmo because congress is ..... well somehow controlled by Bush.

Oooooh the famous French proud.... Very nice. I just wriote what you wrote - relax big guy.

Perhaps they did not achieve, to your standards good customer service, several here have reported vey good customer service.

Now keep buying from someone else and TELL everyone that there service sucks but don't get all pantie twisted when someone else calls you out with a different view - especially when you act all snarky.

Sorry you had a bad experience. Mine has always been great, repairs and purchase. I'll never buy from anyone else. Maybe a French company is just more to your favor?

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And that decision is absolutely not the sniper's.

Wendy P.

So well put it's insane!!
Basically the argument that has gone on about this movie is a debating the Iraq war - again. The movie wasn't about should we be there.....A smart director would produce a movie about THAT question and all the people that hated the war could go and maybe it would be a even BIGGER hit....and we could argue about that.

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There is a big difference between a Hollywood movie and the actual man. Not liking the movie says nothing about the man. They are just completely seperate issues.

Yep, I agree. Do you want me to go through this thread and pick out the negative comments about the man?

What I find fascinating, is the inability of these who were against the war to separate the actions of a man who fought in the war. Certainly I support your distain for the war and how we got there - but why work so hard to marginalize the man? It seems almost pathological for some to point out the his failings.

War is ugly. The point generally is to kill the enemy. He apparently was very good at it.

Chris Kyle didn't always tell the truth, Dr. King was not always the straightest married man apparently, but BOTH were tremendous men in their on right. (King of course had a much larger impact)

The idea that we much beat down "hero's" of the right or left is sad.