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I'm a little late here, but wow, what a party last weekend! We need to do more of that. From the dirty dancing in the hangar, vodka snow cones, the biggest bottle of Grey Goose I've ever seen, ass pyramids, Russian karaoke, playing airplane, head and handstands, and PLFs off the picnic table at 5am...a good time was had by all.

Nothing at all, I tell you. Plus, you look damn good in my RW suit!

Thanks. That was taken on my way back from Nationals. I was flying alone but made friends with the drunk next to me so we got drunk together! I am so happy to see that the atmosphere at CSS has really become awesome. The party habit is back! I guess these things go in cycles but much of it is owed to all the kick-ass new jumpers out there.

Hey kids! I had no idea there was so much CSS action here. Warms my heart. Is everyone jumping this weekend? Don't forget about the big shin dig for Jeff & Nicol Sat. night too. BRING BEER

An awful, awful movie.

Oh come on, not the plant argument! I guess I need to spell out I am talking about living things with CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEMS. so your importance to the 'life cycle' and your place in it is determined by your ability to experience pain? a bit unenlightened dont you think? life is life. somethings are nessesary. Unenlightened? I don't even know how to respond to that. All I am saying is that, no, watching a plant be dismembered does not hurt my feelings. Watching a person or animal be dismembered? Yes that hurts my feelings. Why? The former does not feel pain and suffering, the latter does. It's pretty simple. so your basing a scientific observation (killing animals is bad, but killing plants is ok) on an emotional response? enlightenment is recognizing that ALL life has value and that it is taken to benifit other lives as part of a continuing cycle. Respect for the sacrifice (unwilling in all cases) of another life (any life) is far more important than "feeling' good because carrots dont bleed... Talk about forcing one's beliefs on others. Sheesh! I am not buddhist. My goal is not to become enlightened according to your definition.

Yes, the studies control for sex. Put more simply, female vegetarians live longer than female non-vegetarians. Male vegetarians live longer than male non-vegetarians.

Oh come on, not the plant argument! I guess I need to spell out I am talking about living things with CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEMS. so your importance to the 'life cycle' and your place in it is determined by your ability to experience pain? a bit unenlightened dont you think? life is life. somethings are nessesary. Unenlightened? I don't even know how to respond to that. All I am saying is that, no, watching a plant be dismembered does not hurt my feelings. Watching a person or animal be dismembered? Yes that hurts my feelings. Why? The former does not feel pain and suffering, the latter does. It's pretty simple.

They are still supporting the event by participating in it.

Oh come on, not the plant argument! I guess I need to spell out I am talking about living things with CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEMS.

Based on current research (not the outdated research that you may be thinking of), vegetarians do not lack muscle building ability at all. They are just as strong and are healthier than meat eaters. They live YEARS longer (that says a lot!). l am vegetarian and believe me, I am very strong. I even compete in triathlons. Also, since becoming a vegetarian 5 1/2 yrs ago, I have not been sick once (knock on wood), not even a cold. Go figure....

And who said humans are HIGHLY evolved?, we are still animals who depend on nature to survive. I don't know who said that, do you? It certainly wasn't me. Anyway, yes, we do depend on nature to survive - no argument there. But while I can't speak for you, I like to think that I am "evolved" and intelligent enough to chose not to "torture or kill" lesser creatures. Isn't that the very thing that separtes us from the animals - compassion?

This is a nice thought but it is simply untrue. The meat industry is a business. And their business is producing the most amount of meat in the shortest amount of time, in the least expensive way possible. This is just not conducive to humane treatment, trust me.

And what's WORSE than the slaughter is how they live up until then. People are so deluded - they think that the cows and pigs and chickens they eat roam and graze freely up until that unfortunate time when it's off to the slaughterhouse - the truth is not even close. They live in close confined quarters, in filth, alot of them never seeing the light of day, ever. Why do you think they have to cut baby chicken's beaks off? B/c they are stuffed so tight into chicken coops all their lives that they "go nuts" and will peck each other to death. And that's just one example.

However, killing animals for food, whether it is right or wrong, is still different than torturing them - be it a bull or a fish - for entertainment. ... Keely, I hate to tell you this but the animals you eat for food ARE tortured. In fact their entire lives are torture, not just the last part of their lives in a slaughterhouse. Read about the conditions under which factory farmed animals (which is where your meat comes from) live. You may be more inspired to give vegetarianism another try. And by the way, vegetarians are MORE healthy than meat eaters. They live longer too. Just educate yourself first as to what you need to eat to get everything you need.