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ha ha, So I cannot claim to believe it is impossible to determine something is impossible, while also having a personal opinion that the thing I think is actually possible is likely? You are not making sense, you are not addressing the issue, you are nitpicking. You know about operation Northwoods? Never underestimate the abilities and the audacity of the power hungry. I agree, Quade and Billvon are foolish in their opinions. Great, we agree on something after all. What were we talking about again? LOL

And you are privy to all information known to man, how? You going for your third dan? How about you use some data rather than pretending you are some higher form of life. How about geo-engineering Mr.? I suppose that is just a tin foil hat conspiracy theory as well?

Do I need to? I have shown that is is more than likely that this is the case, the mission was considered successful. Do you want me to go back in time, set up some WX stations and compare the data from subsequent years? There is probably a very good reason they do not have verifiable results data.

It is called Operation Popeye, look it up. The reason I showed that particular presentation, is because it pointed out the fault in Quade's argument. Quite a hypocritical statement when the accused actually has more knowledge than him on the subject. The proceeding conversation from there was no more than a bunch cognitive bias in the form of childish name calling. It was clear to me from that point that no one in the conversation had a clue of what they were actually talking about. There are plenty of sources for this information if you re willing to look for it. Do you ever research anything or just keep yourself busy replying to as many threads as possible? Are you also going for your green belt in bullshit artist?

Semantics much? You provide a weak argument for the impossibility of weather weapons. That is your stance isn't it? Or are you simply all about picking someones delivery of an idea apart? Is it me, or is it the point you are arguing against?

I have called some names, but with an argument. Silly comparisons of irrelevant subjects do not equal a valid argument in my books, they are a typical straw man tactic. The subject itself should be discussed if concrete conclusions are to be made. My argument is simply that it is impossible to determine that weather warfare is; 1, Impossible 2, Not being done already The Geo-Engineering thing also is encompassed in all this, but everyone seems reluctant to acknowledge its presence or discuss it even though I have mentioned it. My guess is that most of you will probably have to Google the term to understand what it means, before replying...

Well some people actually decided to provide valid arguments, rather than silly old name calling...

What science? Are you saying it is absolutely certain that weather cannot be manipulated? if cloud seeding is happening and has been happening for 50 years. how can you say that and where is the line drawn as to what is possible and what s not. People have some foolish ideas that life is as clear cut as we a lead to believe. Christians, Muslims and atheists for a prime example. All fools in their on right, agnosticism relates to everything, science included. No but when these do happen we have all the information on these things. A storm that may not have formed a tornado could be intensified.... I actually track storms for a week before they happen, the forecasts change obviously and no forecast is exactly precise but I book my time off days in advance using forecast as and they are most often correct within a few days. How perfect do you want them to be? Nature has all the energy needed to create anything and everything... This is akin to creating earthquakes with fracking etc... the energy is already there. If your forecasts are no good, try this website, works well for me for precipitation anyway. www.yr.no

I see you did not paste the part where I said that. They used it against Vietnamese citizens though, and most probably US citizens as well. Do you know about geo-engineering? Do you think that is being done or is that just tin foil hat stuff too? touche, but that statement does not say anything is fact, just that it does not seem like much of a progressive step. I don't imagine them conjuring a tornado at will when they want, I see them making an already present low pressure system more intense with outside influence. If the possibility of that seems ludicrous to you, then I guess you and I think quite differently. and These are still the same position. Are you stupid?

When you use the assumption that they are impossible to base your judgement, it most certainly is. I said there was not too much of a progressive step from making devastating rain storms in the dry season in the tropics, to intensifying (not creating) an already naturally occurring tornado storm in a tornado prone region. You are spinning the story. Once again I never said this was fact, just that I think it is likely this technology has been advanced, like all technology, over the past 50 years.

Weather weapons do exist and have been used, the tornado thing I am not so sure about. I came into the thread arguing that Quade was incorrect in claiming it is moronic to believe this could be possible. Even Alex Jones did not say that the tornadoes were man made, just that they could be or that they would likely be if there were aircraft buzzing the thing during formation. The only concrete standpoint in this debate is from the douche bags that somehow claim it is is impossible. It is not ass covering bullshit, I have had the same stance from the beginning. It has just been mis-interpreted buy short sighted dickheads. Please quote where you suggest I said the tornadoes were man made. Or explain how you have the expertise or information to suggest weather warefare of this nature is certainly impossible. If you cannot do either of these things, you have no argument.

So, you don't get it, but you want to say you do. I have no claim to ultimate knowledge. There is nothing more respectful than that. Your attempt to spin has failed. Not one person has explained how it is impossible. One thing I know that is impossible, is ultimate knowledge.

Weak.

You are incorrect, My position is that it is not necessarily impossible. And stating that it is impossible is moronic and naive. It may be impossible but that is undetermined. Do you understand Agnosticism? it does not necessarily relate to religion. If you understand agnosticism you will understand my argument. I don't believe one person that has replied so far has shown they actually understand what they are arguing against. That is the problem here. Weather warfare may be impossible having ultimate knowledge. Unfortunately nobody has that. Neither do they know everything that is happening in this world. I am happy knowing that it may or may not be possible, the ones that claim it is impossible are the ones that have the burden of explanation. This is the hard part of the argument for those that somehow conclude it is in fact impossible.

Would you care to explain. All I heave heard is hearsay and assumption. Just a cut and pasted will do. I don't think any of you actually understand my point after me explaining i several times.

Really after explaining 3 times you still do not understand that I have never once suggested that I necessarily believe it. Are you people really that stupid? Or are you simply not willing to accept any opinion other than your own. If you would actually address my points you might have a debate but until then you idiots (plural no personal attack) are simply trolls. No wonder our world is fucked, it is full of idiots like you lot. hypocrites. Good bye.

Your lack of comprehension astounds me. That goes for pretty much everyone that has replied. I have not said once that 'I know' it is possible to create a tornado. I have simply said is naive to suggest it is impossible. This my own agnostic standpoint and it is something I am comfortable with. Nothing any of you have said suggests otherwise. You foolishly suggest it is only possible to create isolated drizzle for example, when it is clear this is not the case. You move your position without explanation. Nobody is sure that creating a Tornado is impossible. Therefore nobody is sure it cannot be done or is not already being done. Many weapons that are banned are still being used. Why would there necessarily be public evidence of them. None of your rationales make sense. To be so sure, one would have to know everything and this is impossible even though I am sure many of you would argue against that. LOL. There is so much ignorance in this thread I am not going to participate any more. It is not worth the energy. Know it all's will never admit defeat.

Show me one that concludes weather weapons do not exist! And credible. I have shown you the guy that basically invented it.

Only a fool will conclude something they have no idea of, I am not willing to be such a fool. I guess there I am outnumbered by intellectuals that have information us minions are not privy to.

In your opinion or who's? Do you believe the default position is necessarily the correct one?

Grasping at straws is what I was referring to. I thought you might have picked that up, white knuckles and all. What a sad bunch in here. All talk no substance.

(how did my reply end up above your post?) My Bad, I guess these people just make up tin foil had Ideas and conjure up such limitations just in case it does happens one day. How stupid and paranoid can people be. LOL Do you suggest the mission in Vietnam was a hoax?

Your knuckles are going white with that bunch of straw you got there.

https://www.google.com/search?q=wetaher+warfare&oq=wetaher+warfare&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3.6117j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Can you speak English in common sense? If so, start doing so.

There would not be convention opposed to the use of such technology if it did not exist, go back to your dreamland and conjure up some more rubbish.