alexey 6 #1 March 20, 2003 Sorry for bad English.... We have here (in Russia) manufacturer, which make a popular local rig. Previous version have had reserve container, pretty like Vector - 2 kicker flaps, PC... In his new model he make onky one kicker flap - only bottom. Have you any consideration about that??? Thanks...Lexa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 561 #2 March 20, 2003 There are several TSOed American-made rigs similar to the Russian rig that you just described: Infinity, later Mirages, etc. They all work well. One internal kicker flap is easier to build and pack than two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexey 6 #3 March 20, 2003 I know about one kicker. It's not a problem. But, all rigs, which I ever seen with 1 kicker - have top kicker flap. In that variant, there is only bottom. On my opinion, its smart thing - easier to pack, and the main thing - much easier extraction of dbag, no risk of jamming reserve bridle, ets... But, if it's so good - why other manufacturers dont do the some?Lexa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markbaur 0 #4 March 21, 2003 Quotewhy other manufacturers don't do the same [use just a bottom kicker flap]?How about no kicker flaps at all, like a Talon 2?Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexey 6 #5 March 24, 2003 I'm not sure about no kicker at all. On my opinion, it's posible to have some problem in that variant - weak launch of PC, jamming of the bottom of PC in D-bag, ets... Have somebody any idea about that?Lexa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 561 #6 March 24, 2003 If there is no kicker flap, designers have to be far more careful with reserve deployment bag design. For example. PISA's NARO has no kicker flaps, but it has a stiffener sewn into the d-bag. Flexon, Talon, Voodoo have an even more sophisticated d-bag, and they also have a small diameter spring. Talon springs bottom out with only a thin layer of d-bag fabric separating them from the pack tray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alexey 6 #7 March 24, 2003 Yes, I know. As we can see many rigs without kicker, and TSoed, its working... But, I'm thinking about stupid-protected gear, which is max protected from bad workmanship, or speeddy rigging - and variant with bottom kicker flap is the best, on my opinion (it can be wrong easely...)Lexa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
