Bartje 0 #1 January 5, 2005 What are funjumps,.. I was in a discussion and somebody asked me how many jumps I had. I said 1500 funjumps and perhaps 150 workjumps. He had over 6000 jumps with 5000 workjumps (tandem). What value can you give such man when he's start talking about canopy flying? He is less years in he sport then me and never jumped higher than 1.9wl. For shure he can learn me something about tandem canopy flying but what with his other canopy skills. He is jumping a stil.120 and he pull rank on me when I start giving information at somebody. Any idea's somebody? A FreeFly Gypsy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #2 January 5, 2005 QuoteWhat value can you give such man when he's start talking about canopy flying? He is less years in he sport then me and never jumped higher than 1.9wl. Honestly it all depends HOW he flies it. I've seen people with less jumps than I fly spectacularly (this includes pattern, safety, etc) and conversely I've seen people with thousands more fly like a student. Jumps matter, yes, but it's what was done with them that matters more. Basically good/bad advice can come from anyone. I know that doesn't help ya though cause I guess without seeing and listening to the person it's hard to say how much value they have. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bartje 0 #3 January 5, 2005 QuoteHonestly it all depends HOW he flies it. For me he sucks but I have to be carefull because I'm now with a prejudice mind. He's way to conservative and all things what he think is good is the only way. The question is in fact, can you outrank somebody when you have more jumps but less funjumps than the other person? What value is there in workjumps? (on the matter canopy flying). A FreeFly Gypsy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 January 5, 2005 QuoteThe question is in fact, can you outrank somebody when you have more jumps but less funjumps than the other person? What value is there in workjumps? (on the matter canopy flying). I'm sorry but, who the fuck cares. Seriously. I've taken great advice from people with under 100 jumps before and have taken advice from people with over 5,000 jumps. Which opinion means more? Well, which ever one I feel like has the best informed opinion and decision making process. I've met jumpers with a shitload of jumps that are stuck in their old and outdated ways, I've met jumpers that are just starting out with their head planted firmly in their ass as well. This isn't the military, this isn't a cast society, this is skydiving. Take advice from who you believe is giving you the best advice (within reason for you 100 jump wonders asking about high wingloadings and swooping for example). If you're worried about someone giving bad advice to a jumper at your DZ, talk to the jumper getting the advice, give that jumper your opinion and back it up with facts and reasonings. People are generally intelligent and can make decisions. If it truely becomes a safety factor, bring in the S&TA (or your country's equivelent).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bartje 0 #5 January 5, 2005 QuoteI've met jumpers with a shitload of jumps that are stuck in their old and outdated ways Probily he is and I should not give a damn. I think I was to pissed off the moment I wrote the comment. thx anyway, A FreeFly Gypsy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre1Lucke 0 #6 January 5, 2005 Hi Bartje, It doesn't matter what he said. You gave me a lot of good advice a few months ago! I made a lot of progress since you gave me those few hint and tricks. See you this year at Spa! Greetz, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisgr 0 #7 January 5, 2005 Did he tell you to downsize? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre1Lucke 0 #8 January 5, 2005 Not at all! He gave me advice concernig the flightpattern and how to start a swoop. Like it's better to make a big long turn instead to hook it. His advice was much more detailed!! I know I still have much to learn and maybe at the end of this year I will downsize. But the year just started...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisgr 0 #9 January 5, 2005 I am pleasantly surprised to hear that. Some of his previous posts suggest that he is more impressed with the performance benefits of downsizing to a higher w/l than teaching a safe skill progression. Take your time and enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
