spedbus 0 #1 April 28, 2004 has anyone here jumped in Russia? i'm considering a trip to Moscow next year and by then i'll be licensed with my own rig so i'd like to hear about anyone's experiences out there.You'll lose speed, but keep altitude. It will look like you have a choice, speed or height, but either way you're still gonna nose-dive into the ground. -Chuck Palahniuk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justdumi 0 #2 April 28, 2004 i havent but i have met some guys who have jumped there and they reckon its quality! and heading to Kolomna in July for some summer slam jumping.... yeah baby! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raistlin 0 #3 April 29, 2004 I have. Of course, it's about the only country I've jumped in so far, anyway! :) So what specifically interests you? There are three major dropzones in Moscow whereabouts, each about a couple hours' worth of driving, and a good few of smaller ones that you aren't probably interested in. Enough people speak at least a bit of English that you can get by. Prices are expected to go up, but currently linger at about $10 for a ride to 14k. AADs are obligatory on all DZs here. I'm attaching a few pics of my home DZ taken when I missed the first load :p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 137 #4 April 29, 2004 Hi Dan, is it an An28 on the pictures ??scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spedbus 0 #5 April 29, 2004 i am actually a russian language student here in the US so i'm confindent that my skill with the language by next summer should be significant enough to get by at a smaller DZ. i'm thinking mostly cost, customs and distance as well as aircraft available. looks like you answered all of them with the inclusion of your photos. thanks.You'll lose speed, but keep altitude. It will look like you have a choice, speed or height, but either way you're still gonna nose-dive into the ground. -Chuck Palahniuk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #6 April 29, 2004 Why go smaller DZ? Visit Aerograd Kolomna. Some winter photos are available here http://dimm.wdcb.ru/public/KLMN_14_02/ Spring photos of Aerograd: http://www.taki.sitecity.ru/album_1904152747.phtml Price: $9 for jump ticket. Aircrafts: An-28 (yes, that was An-28 on the picture), Mi-8 helicopter (I LOVE it!). Up to 64 loads per day. You are welcome here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #7 April 29, 2004 i jumped an-28 while i was in sweden for competion. very nice plane, noisy like hell, but climbs very fast. it was design for short take offs and landings, has a lot of wing. due to the same reason that it can climb fast, it can not dive fast :) so turn around time is pretty much the same as otter. but it's fun to jump. funny, i'm russian myself, but i never jumped in russia :) stan -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raistlin 0 #8 April 29, 2004 Aerograd Kolomna is overrated :P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
altichick 1 #9 April 29, 2004 Not yet but I'm going to Kolomna in July so I'll let you know what it's like - I looked into a few DZ near Mosocow and picked that one as it had the most helpful website (I can't speak/read Russian!) And they have helicopters - that's going to be something of a novelty! Don't sweat the petty things... and don't pet the sweaty things! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #10 April 29, 2004 Yea, An-28 is a bit noisy It can dive and it can land really fast. That depends on the pilot. Most pilots fly safe, they do not want to hit some bird-man or crazy canopy flyer, so they have to do long landing patterns. But does it matter? I land, grab my chute, go to the packing room and see An-28 landing. I'm not THAT fast to pack before it is gone for another load Mi8 helicopter is a dream of any skydiver. Except for exits, it is not very comfortable. Small side door, tail gate is usually closed. Quotefunny, i'm russian myself, but i never jumped in russia :) You should do that, you'll like it, I promise Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #11 April 29, 2004 Quote But does it matter? I land, grab my chute, go to the packing room and see An-28 landing. I'm not THAT fast to pack before it is gone for another load yes, it does :) it matter for skydiviver since they get to altitude faster. and it matters for DZ since because they want to have faster turn around time. and for an-28 is pretty much the same as for otter. Quote You should do that, you'll like it, I promise i know i would :) i'm going back home for the whole september but i don't feel like brining my rig across half of the globe :) stan -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #12 April 29, 2004 I'm sure, you gonna like it! Kolomna is a good place for skydivers who can't speak/read Russian. Loads are announced in English, and there are always a lot of people speaking English. At least, you may always ask me and I'll translate anything for you. QuoteUSA - Canada - Alaska - Russia - Sweden - Czech - Slovakia - Kenya Whoa! Fantastic plan, I wish I ever have possibility to have such boogie tour ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skeptik 0 #13 April 29, 2004 Quotehas anyone here jumped in Russia? i'm considering a trip to Moscow next year and by then i'll be licensed with my own rig so i'd like to hear about anyone's experiences out there. Hey, listen to me... Aerograd Kolomna it is cool DZ, but Stupino - is the best. I was talking with Deland Majik last july on the Malevsky cup and guys said that they was amazing the level of Stupino. It is really the best place to jump near Moscow. Mi-8 Helicopter, An-28 and L-410. Ticket to 14k for 9$. Bar & small restauraunt. Stupino is the place, where you can feel yourself a white man! About language... Many peoples at any big DZ(especially near Moscow, S-Petersburg etc.) speak English not so bad. Don't worry about it especially if you know some phrases on Russian.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaaska 0 #14 April 30, 2004 http://dimm.wdcb.ru/public/KLMN_14_02/112_1227.html Is that thing for pointing the wind direction??? I'll be damned if somebody can't see it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justdumi 0 #15 April 30, 2004 Quote Stupino is the place, where you can feel yourself a white man! now now ...care to explain what that means? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 137 #16 April 30, 2004 or maybe landing direction....scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skeptik 0 #17 April 30, 2004 QuoteQuote Stupino is the place, where you can feel yourself a white man! now now ...care to explain what that means? Eeee... Khm... I did not think that my joke can offence somebody... Sorry... My dad hear this joke at first time in India two or three years ago. Inheritance from the time of English colonialism... In India this phrase means that all will be allright and you'll be completely satisfy. One more time: I did not want to offence somebody.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skeptik 0 #18 April 30, 2004 Quoteor maybe landing direction.... Yes, this thing indicates landing direction. Not wind.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Raistlin 0 #19 April 30, 2004 I guess I'll represent a third opinion here and reiterate that no DZ is better than Borki, and nowhere else are you likely to receive a warmer welcome :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skeptik 0 #20 April 30, 2004 There is one one russian proverb: "Every kulick praise their swamp" (kulick - is the small bird living in a swamp) But really it is all depend on your preferences. If you want to do 10-15 jump in the day - then Stupino or Kolomna will be right choice. If you want to talk with interest peoples, eat barbecue etc. and do some jumps next morning - then go to Borki. There is some big advantage in Borki DZ: hotel is placer right at the DZ. And many good peoples jumping there.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Raistlin 0 #21 April 30, 2004 I really don't see what prohibits you from being in every single load there is (and we get about 20 of those on a busy day), granted you are a packing god, or pay the packers to do the job quickly >:) *stare* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zheka 0 #22 May 1, 2004 I really hate to post offtopic here It's great to find out that there are many russian spekaing skydivers in North America. Myself being one as well. I am fairly new to the sport of skydiving but I am learning and loving it!!! . A crazy idea ran through my mind that perhaps we should meet up and organize a samll "russian" boogie one day. Blue Skies to everyone!!!! :) offtopic ends here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DancingFlame 0 #23 May 3, 2004 Correct. It is the landing direction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DancingFlame 0 #24 May 5, 2004 Aerograd Kolomna made 45 (or 47?) loads this Sunday. How many loads were made in Borki ? And one more interesting thing: WIND TUNNEL at Aerograd !!! Yes, it is almost ready, at least I saw video from the tunnel. Small working area (only for 2-way, well, may be 3-way), and for bellyfliers only, but it WORKS! I saw 2-way training session. From what I heard, price will be ~$250 for 1 hour. One thing missing in Aerograd, is warm shower. It will be built in summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites spedbus 0 #25 May 5, 2004 I'm excited about all the feedback i'm getting on this post. thanks for your info. i believe that while i'm in Russia i'm now going to have to jump at least 2 DZs if not more. not that there is any problem with that.You'll lose speed, but keep altitude. It will look like you have a choice, speed or height, but either way you're still gonna nose-dive into the ground. -Chuck Palahniuk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
justdumi 0 #15 April 30, 2004 Quote Stupino is the place, where you can feel yourself a white man! now now ...care to explain what that means? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 137 #16 April 30, 2004 or maybe landing direction....scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skeptik 0 #17 April 30, 2004 QuoteQuote Stupino is the place, where you can feel yourself a white man! now now ...care to explain what that means? Eeee... Khm... I did not think that my joke can offence somebody... Sorry... My dad hear this joke at first time in India two or three years ago. Inheritance from the time of English colonialism... In India this phrase means that all will be allright and you'll be completely satisfy. One more time: I did not want to offence somebody.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skeptik 0 #18 April 30, 2004 Quoteor maybe landing direction.... Yes, this thing indicates landing direction. Not wind.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Raistlin 0 #19 April 30, 2004 I guess I'll represent a third opinion here and reiterate that no DZ is better than Borki, and nowhere else are you likely to receive a warmer welcome :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skeptik 0 #20 April 30, 2004 There is one one russian proverb: "Every kulick praise their swamp" (kulick - is the small bird living in a swamp) But really it is all depend on your preferences. If you want to do 10-15 jump in the day - then Stupino or Kolomna will be right choice. If you want to talk with interest peoples, eat barbecue etc. and do some jumps next morning - then go to Borki. There is some big advantage in Borki DZ: hotel is placer right at the DZ. And many good peoples jumping there.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Raistlin 0 #21 April 30, 2004 I really don't see what prohibits you from being in every single load there is (and we get about 20 of those on a busy day), granted you are a packing god, or pay the packers to do the job quickly >:) *stare* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zheka 0 #22 May 1, 2004 I really hate to post offtopic here It's great to find out that there are many russian spekaing skydivers in North America. Myself being one as well. I am fairly new to the sport of skydiving but I am learning and loving it!!! . A crazy idea ran through my mind that perhaps we should meet up and organize a samll "russian" boogie one day. Blue Skies to everyone!!!! :) offtopic ends here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DancingFlame 0 #23 May 3, 2004 Correct. It is the landing direction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DancingFlame 0 #24 May 5, 2004 Aerograd Kolomna made 45 (or 47?) loads this Sunday. How many loads were made in Borki ? And one more interesting thing: WIND TUNNEL at Aerograd !!! Yes, it is almost ready, at least I saw video from the tunnel. Small working area (only for 2-way, well, may be 3-way), and for bellyfliers only, but it WORKS! I saw 2-way training session. From what I heard, price will be ~$250 for 1 hour. One thing missing in Aerograd, is warm shower. It will be built in summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites spedbus 0 #25 May 5, 2004 I'm excited about all the feedback i'm getting on this post. thanks for your info. i believe that while i'm in Russia i'm now going to have to jump at least 2 DZs if not more. not that there is any problem with that.You'll lose speed, but keep altitude. It will look like you have a choice, speed or height, but either way you're still gonna nose-dive into the ground. -Chuck Palahniuk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
piisfish 137 #16 April 30, 2004 or maybe landing direction....scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skeptik 0 #17 April 30, 2004 QuoteQuote Stupino is the place, where you can feel yourself a white man! now now ...care to explain what that means? Eeee... Khm... I did not think that my joke can offence somebody... Sorry... My dad hear this joke at first time in India two or three years ago. Inheritance from the time of English colonialism... In India this phrase means that all will be allright and you'll be completely satisfy. One more time: I did not want to offence somebody.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skeptik 0 #18 April 30, 2004 Quoteor maybe landing direction.... Yes, this thing indicates landing direction. Not wind.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Raistlin 0 #19 April 30, 2004 I guess I'll represent a third opinion here and reiterate that no DZ is better than Borki, and nowhere else are you likely to receive a warmer welcome :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skeptik 0 #20 April 30, 2004 There is one one russian proverb: "Every kulick praise their swamp" (kulick - is the small bird living in a swamp) But really it is all depend on your preferences. If you want to do 10-15 jump in the day - then Stupino or Kolomna will be right choice. If you want to talk with interest peoples, eat barbecue etc. and do some jumps next morning - then go to Borki. There is some big advantage in Borki DZ: hotel is placer right at the DZ. And many good peoples jumping there.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Raistlin 0 #21 April 30, 2004 I really don't see what prohibits you from being in every single load there is (and we get about 20 of those on a busy day), granted you are a packing god, or pay the packers to do the job quickly >:) *stare* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zheka 0 #22 May 1, 2004 I really hate to post offtopic here It's great to find out that there are many russian spekaing skydivers in North America. Myself being one as well. I am fairly new to the sport of skydiving but I am learning and loving it!!! . A crazy idea ran through my mind that perhaps we should meet up and organize a samll "russian" boogie one day. Blue Skies to everyone!!!! :) offtopic ends here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DancingFlame 0 #23 May 3, 2004 Correct. It is the landing direction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DancingFlame 0 #24 May 5, 2004 Aerograd Kolomna made 45 (or 47?) loads this Sunday. How many loads were made in Borki ? And one more interesting thing: WIND TUNNEL at Aerograd !!! Yes, it is almost ready, at least I saw video from the tunnel. Small working area (only for 2-way, well, may be 3-way), and for bellyfliers only, but it WORKS! I saw 2-way training session. From what I heard, price will be ~$250 for 1 hour. One thing missing in Aerograd, is warm shower. It will be built in summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites spedbus 0 #25 May 5, 2004 I'm excited about all the feedback i'm getting on this post. thanks for your info. i believe that while i'm in Russia i'm now going to have to jump at least 2 DZs if not more. not that there is any problem with that.You'll lose speed, but keep altitude. It will look like you have a choice, speed or height, but either way you're still gonna nose-dive into the ground. -Chuck Palahniuk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
skeptik 0 #18 April 30, 2004 Quoteor maybe landing direction.... Yes, this thing indicates landing direction. Not wind.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raistlin 0 #19 April 30, 2004 I guess I'll represent a third opinion here and reiterate that no DZ is better than Borki, and nowhere else are you likely to receive a warmer welcome :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skeptik 0 #20 April 30, 2004 There is one one russian proverb: "Every kulick praise their swamp" (kulick - is the small bird living in a swamp) But really it is all depend on your preferences. If you want to do 10-15 jump in the day - then Stupino or Kolomna will be right choice. If you want to talk with interest peoples, eat barbecue etc. and do some jumps next morning - then go to Borki. There is some big advantage in Borki DZ: hotel is placer right at the DZ. And many good peoples jumping there.--------------------------------------- Íàñ ó÷èëè íå æèòü, íàñ ó÷èëè óìèðàòü ñòîÿ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raistlin 0 #21 April 30, 2004 I really don't see what prohibits you from being in every single load there is (and we get about 20 of those on a busy day), granted you are a packing god, or pay the packers to do the job quickly >:) *stare* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zheka 0 #22 May 1, 2004 I really hate to post offtopic here It's great to find out that there are many russian spekaing skydivers in North America. Myself being one as well. I am fairly new to the sport of skydiving but I am learning and loving it!!! . A crazy idea ran through my mind that perhaps we should meet up and organize a samll "russian" boogie one day. Blue Skies to everyone!!!! :) offtopic ends here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #23 May 3, 2004 Correct. It is the landing direction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancingFlame 0 #24 May 5, 2004 Aerograd Kolomna made 45 (or 47?) loads this Sunday. How many loads were made in Borki ? And one more interesting thing: WIND TUNNEL at Aerograd !!! Yes, it is almost ready, at least I saw video from the tunnel. Small working area (only for 2-way, well, may be 3-way), and for bellyfliers only, but it WORKS! I saw 2-way training session. From what I heard, price will be ~$250 for 1 hour. One thing missing in Aerograd, is warm shower. It will be built in summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spedbus 0 #25 May 5, 2004 I'm excited about all the feedback i'm getting on this post. thanks for your info. i believe that while i'm in Russia i'm now going to have to jump at least 2 DZs if not more. not that there is any problem with that.You'll lose speed, but keep altitude. It will look like you have a choice, speed or height, but either way you're still gonna nose-dive into the ground. -Chuck Palahniuk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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