dreamdancer 0 #1 June 6, 2009 these guys are loopy QuoteRoeder and the Freemen belonged to a little-recognized nativist political movement that began in the early 20th century, flared up periodically, and then ripped through the American heartland during the farm depression of the mid-1980s. This movement was often called "the posse," after a core group named the Posse Comitatus. Like any political movement, it consisted of a myriad of shifting entities that appeared and disappeared. But even though the names of the groups often changed, they all held tightly to the notion that the true white sovereigns, who had rightfully been given this land by God, were being threatened by race traitors "inferior races" creeping across the borders from Mexico and lands farther south. A favorite posse image was a drawing of a man hanging by the neck from a tree on a hill. Below in the distance stands a group of armed men. A sign is scrawled on the drawing. It says "The posse." Over the years, this movement has encompassed various remnants of the Ku Klux Klan, what was left of Lincoln Rockwell's Nazis, the national socialists of William Pierce, and skinheads. Sometimes, adherents of the Posse ideology operated underground. Sometimes, they attempted to win support via electoral politics, like the white supremacist David Duke, who ran numerous times for statewide and national office. Terry Nichols, who along with Timothy McVeigh carried out the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, dabbled with the concept of sovereign citizenship. The militia movement, too, was an outgrowth of the posse movement. Daniel Levitas, author of a book about the phenomenon, has described Roeder's group, the Montana Freemen, as "the direct ideological descendants of the Posse Comitatus." The Freemen aimed to rid the nation of "14th Amendment citizens" -- anyone who wasn't a white Anglo Saxon directly descended from God. Nonwhites, or "mud people," weren't really people at all, but God's failed attempts to create Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. A bad Xerox copy, they used to say. These beliefs derived from a school of thought known as Christian Identity, which holds that Jews, blacks, and other minorities aren't actually people and therefore don't deserve constitutional rights. Instead, those rights are reserved for so-called "white Sovereigns," who aim to take over government and run it through grand juries of the people, with laws enforced by old-time posses. http://www.alternet.org/story/140458/a_brief_history_of_the_radical%2C_violent_right%3A_how_racist_hate_groups_joined_up_with_abortion_terrorists/?page=entirestay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #2 June 6, 2009 Quotethese guys are loopy This website you like to post from is loopy! Quote http://www.alternet.org/...rorists/?page=entire Would you like me to post alist of the wacked out left groups? Hell I could write a book the list is so long. Here I'll just give you a few, The Black Panthers, PETA, ALF, ELF,Marxist Movement for a Democratic Society, STORM. Do you want anymore?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #3 June 6, 2009 Quote Quote these guys are loopy This website you like to post from is loopy! Don't get upset. This is just S.O.P. for the OP. I equate it to "I have no opinion of my own but this is what Alternet told me to think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #4 June 6, 2009 QuoteQuotethese guys are loopy This website you like to post from is loopy! Quote http://www.alternet.org/...rorists/?page=entire Would you like me to post alist of the wacked out left groups? Hell I could write a book the list is so long. Here I'll just give you a few, The Black Panthers, PETA, ALF, ELF,Marxist Movement for a Democratic Society, STORM. Do you want anymore? no shit. Radical lunatic fringe groups come in all sorts. Some are so far "out there" they cannot even be characterized as left or right. You don't have to defend your "team" here. They're not on it to begin with, so take that chip off your shoulder. The lunatic fringe has nothing to do with normal Republicans, Democrats, Liberals or Conservatives. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryzflies 0 #5 June 6, 2009 If you quit quoting Alternet, maybe rushmc will stop using Newsmax. But I doubt either of you will. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #6 June 6, 2009 QuoteYou don't have to defend your "team" here. They're not on it to begin with, so take that chip off your shoulder. I didn't know I was trying to defend anyone who I line myself with. I think it's funny when people think extreme groups are only on 1 side or the other.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #7 June 6, 2009 Hey look! Kallend's back! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #8 June 6, 2009 QuoteA suspected white supremacist and his son are being held under the Terrorism Act after the discovery of what is thought to be ricin poison. Anti-terror officers raided the 41-year-old's home in Myrtle Grove, Burnopfield, County Durham, and discovered traces of the toxin following a search. His 18-year-old son was also arrested and held on suspicion of inciting racial hatred following a swoop at his home in Grampian Court, Annfield Plain. He has since been re-arrested and is also now detained under the Terrorism Act in West Yorkshire. Assistant Chief Constable Michael Barton said: "Specialist police officers have been carrying out a meticulous search of the (Myrtle Grove) property, which is a two-up two-down terraced house. "They have uncovered a substance, which we believe has traces of ricin. It was in a sealed jam jar that has been kept in a kitchen cupboard - apparently for up to two years. Tests on the substance were carried out at a Government laboratory in Edinburgh on Thursday." Durham Police said the arrests followed a long-running intelligence-led operation against extreme right-wing activity. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090606/tuk-two-held-after-ricin-find-dba1618.htmlstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #9 June 10, 2009 QuoteSuspect in Washington's Holocaust Museum Shooting Is a White Supremacist "On December 7, 1981 a man named James W. von Brunn pulled out a sawed-off shotgun at the Federal Reserve Board headquarters, claiming to have planted a bomb and threatening to take members of the Board hostage. That was 40 years to the day after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, though it's unclear whether that's a coincidence or not. ... At the time of his sentencing in March, 1983, he was 63 years old. He ultimately served six and a half years in prison, which seemingly did nothing to change his extreme views on race. Almost 20 years after he was released, he stormed the secured entrance of the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. with a shotgun and opened fire, wounding one guard. He was ultimately shot himself." http://www.alternet.org/rights/140564/suspect_in_washington%27s_holocaust_museum_shooting_is_a_white_supremacist/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
