bizarra 0 #1 April 15, 2002 My cousin just sent me this story about a DZ near him. Link is below, but doesn't appear to offer any details. From what he said, the plane was aborting for weather, when it went down with jumpers on board. The story said everyone was okay though. Anyone have anymore details?http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.asp?storyid=3391 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevin922 0 #2 April 15, 2002 "The pilot received several cuts and bruises but is expected to live. "Humm.. that seems like poor writing to me. Cuts and Bruises are associated with minor injuries - thus there is no question that with a minor injury they are expected to live. Unless the cut was across an artery and he bled profusely then why put "he's expected to live" that's like saying "he fell off his bike and skinned his knee, but we think he'll live"HummKevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #3 April 15, 2002 I keep telling people this is why I don't land in planes... too dangerous. I mean, that's when most accidents happen! Glad to hear everyone is ok on this one.Give him awhile, and I"m sure we'll get an explanation from ChrisGenerally speaking, you aren't learning much when your mouth is moving Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #4 April 15, 2002 Ever broken you leg in a plane landing, wildblue. Eh? Probably has more to do with the pilot of what is being landed than anything else. "Yea, I didn't think we'd actually be turning any points..." ~ Goat #4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #5 April 15, 2002 One of those......."was that a landing honey or did we get shot down" kind of landings?Way Ouch dude.It only takes a little pixie dust...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #6 April 15, 2002 For the record, it's Conway, AR.....not Conway, AK. Those are some of my friends over there.....glad to hear everyone's fine.....but I know Rex is cryin' over his crashed plane..... Peace~LindseyEve was framed!http://home.earthlink.net/~linzwalley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #7 April 15, 2002 Lindsey, that was Rex's plane? Was he flying it? I jumped out of his Twin Beech a few times. Is Mark still at the dz? I heard there might be something going on there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #8 April 15, 2002 They report that it was in the process of going around on aborted landing. Glad all are "expected to live." I will post the NTSB report when it becomes available in the coming days.From the FAA site today:IDENTIFICATIONRegis#: 4090D Make/Model: C182 Description: 182, SkylaneDate: 04/13/2002 Time: 2100Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: NDamage: UnknownLOCATIONCity: CONWQAY State: AR Country: USDESCRIPTIONAIRCRAFT LANDING WAS TOO LONG, PILOT DECIDED TO ABORT LANDING, ACFT HIT TREES AT END OF RWY THEN CRASHED IN A FIELD ON OTHER SIDE OF TREES, 1 UNKN INJURY, CONWAY, ARINJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: Y# Pass: 3 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: LIT 132053Z 15007KT 7SM SCT080 BKN250 27/18 A3000 LIT 132153Z 14009KT 10SM SCT050CB SCT100 BKN250 26/17 A2999OTHER DATAActivity: Unknown Phase: Landing Operation: General AviationDeparted: UNKN Dep Date: Dep. Time: Destination: CONWAY, AR Flt Plan: UNK Wx Briefing: YLast Radio Cont: NONELast Clearance: NONEFAA FSDO: LITTLE ROCK, AR (SW11) Entry date: 04/15/2002 Chris SchindlerATP/CFIID-19012www.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #9 April 23, 2002 Here is the NTSB link for the Conway, AR crash:http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20020422X00562&key=1After reading it (and it is preliminary) I am struck by the comment about the pilot being a PRIVATE PILOT!!!!!!!! Have we learned nothing? Why are dropzones still using Private Pilots to fly jumpers? Why are we skydivers getting in these aircraft? Why does the USPA do nothing to stop this? This is totally unacceptable. The FAA has ruled that NO dropzone is allowed to use Private Pilots to fly jumpers. The "Club" exemption does not exist anymore.I'm just glad all people on board survived this botched go-around.Chris SchindlerATP/CFIID-19012www.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #10 April 23, 2002 Private Pilot Issue.....as far as skydiving goes, we really are kind of in the sticks, here in Arkansas.....I don't jump at Rex's place, but I only have good things to say about them..... I imagine that they were using a private pilot because it's really hard to find people to fly jumpers.....I'm not saying it's okay, but that sometimes if ya' want to jump, ya' don't question who's flying..... You should've been out to jump with us at the Patch! Trees (with a gap, of course, for the plane to fit through) at one end, and a big ditch.... Power lines at the other end....about 3000' runway. On those really hot summer days, on down wind takeoffs, with a full load, if we weren't up by the time we reached the hump in the runway, that's when takeoff was aborted. What memories..... Now we jump at airports with big ol' huge long paved runways....sometimes I'm still amazed at all the breathing room. However....at Rex's place, I think the runway's like 2800'......I don't recall there being trees at one end though....apparently there are trees somewhere? Of course the Cessna's trashed now, but they still have the Beech!some days it's just not worth gnawing through the strapshttp://home.earthlink.net/~linzwalley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Lindsey 0 #12 April 23, 2002 Poeville?! That's frickin' hilarious!some days it's just not worth gnawing through the strapshttp://home.earthlink.net/~linzwalley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #13 April 23, 2002 Wow! Where is Emily Post (Ms.Manners) when you need her?I would hope that people could express their opinions here without being personally attacked! If one feels the need to do so....please try using the PM, great tool for saving face and eating crow when warrented.Diverdriver provides a valuable service to all of us by sharing the information that he does. I doubt that he was "pointing a finger" but rather expressing his opinion,(which is his right as a member of this community) while also pointing out the FAA rule re: private pilots and jump planes. It would be a loss to all of us if Diverdriver decided NOT to post here because of incidences such as these.As to merit badges.....well let me list mine for ya'll cause I sure in the hell earned every damn one of them!Cheers!BB~BS;MS;Ph.DEMPTIV, LGIT,AFYAP,CPRPR,AEA,ACE,USSSI VI, WSI,APT,ACPT,GET,.........YMCA.....it's fun to stay at the YMCA......you can get a good job, you have have a good time..:P~~~~~`It only takes a little pixie dust...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #14 April 23, 2002 Private email sent.Chris SchindlerATP/CFIID-19012www.DiverDriver.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhoni 0 #15 April 25, 2002 Mark was my tandem master on my jump last year. Very, very cool guy. Everyone out there was. AR Aerosports is where I will do my AFF training next spring (had to put it off this year to help my mother). I of course have no experience so I won't comment on their safety or lack of, but I was quite comfortable out there. And then, as Lindsey pointed out, there's the issue of so few choices around here. Rhoni Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChromeBoy 0 #16 April 25, 2002 Mark is a good friend of mine.If I wanted to hear from an asshole, I would fart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
