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  1. SkyFest is preparing for its 10 Year Anniversary! June 15-21, 2010 at Skydive The Farm! The official boogie that "Pays it Skyward".
    Of course we will have 2 Otters, and a Casa. With more specialty AC to be announced. Still trying to confirm the Helicopter and Balloon, if you know anyone that may be able to help, please let us know. Seems like we go thru this every year with those two AC, and each year we have come thru, so we expect the same this year.:S

    Not to mention over a dozen manufacturers available for you to check out their latest and greatest gear and demos! Make sure you stop by their booth and spend some time with them.
    You can also catch some of the manufacturers in March here: http://www.skydiveexpo.com/

    We also have the largest Gear Auction in the country with several 100% discounted products to bid on! See the site for a list of auction items.

    Lets not forget what SF is all about: the growth, retention, and safety of our sport. So all you new jumpers, this boogie is for you!! And for all the experienced jumpers, come out and pass on your experience, set some records, make some history, tell your stories, and help SF "Pay it Skyward"!!!

    Some of the events during SF will be:
    POPS State Record
    Women's GA State Record
    Wingsuit State Record
    Freefly State Records, Male and Female
    SCR's and SCS
    Pink Patch Jumps (a chance to win a jump with 19 ladies)
    20 + ways - TeXXas Style!!
    20 LO's on hand to cover any type of jumping you would like
    Hoop, Raft, Banana, Tube, Safe Sex, Chair, and many other inflatable dives!

    What more could you ask for? Well how about a week at the beautiful Skydive The Farm! If you have not been, this is the time to check it out!
    2 landing areas
    2 Ponds
    RV hookups will be available with reservations
    Bonfires!
    And of course the parties, Farm Style!!

    We recently "gutted" the website so bear with us as we get more information on there. More details to work out so keep an eye on the site.
    Pre registration will open in the next couple of weeks.

    Wow, 10 years of SkyFest! Its been an interesting ride to say the least. We are very appreciative of everyone's support over the years and hope to see you there!



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    For the orig. poster (sparky knows this stuff and can correct any error of mine):

    As for the AS8015 stuff, note that the 3 seconds is to the moment the parachute reaches full inflation -- not until the time when the canopy is flying in a nice steady state descent.

    After the 3 sec it may still be mushing downwards with a bunch of extra velocity, or pitching from the opening. And it will be in brakes and not ready to land normally. It'll take some seconds to undo the brakes, let it come out of the resulting dive, and then flare.

    So the 3 seconds is technically fine for saving your life, but another 100 or 200 feet would be really nice to have to avoid smashing ankles in real life.



    I've always said a canopy needs to breathe once before it will save your life. Meaning it needs to take the air it used to open it and "recycle it" before it slows the decent rate enough to prevent injury or death. This is only based on what I have seen with opened canopies just after line stretch then impact, both died. :(1 round, 1 square. I could be very wrong though.



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    >Bad idea suggesting someone not prepare for worst case.

    If you cut away a main parachute on the ground because you're being dragged, and you have an RSL, and you cut away the main, your reserve will not inflate. Yes, there are exceptions - if you jumped during Hurricane Katrina, or are sliding down a 45 degree slope at the time, the reserve may open. Neither are very realistic scenarios. It may also open if you use a Skyhook, which is a piece of gear that has different safety issues than an RSL (like the action of the Collins lanyard.)

    However, there are a lot of skydivers who really believe that if they land in high winds, and they cut away, and they have an RSL, their reserve will leap into the air and keep dragging them. Anyone who has ever done this (or seen this) knows that that doesn't happen. The RSL pulls the reserve pin, and the PC launches, and half the time the reserve doesn't even clear the container. The other half of the time it plops out and lands at their feet.



    I for one wished I had cutaway when I landed on the hangar in 93! Prior to touching down on it I did not think of the RSL nor cuttiingaway because I thought I would make it over it, and would have had I not flared, would have been a great swoop for a level 5 on Radio! But when I was on it I did not cutaway because of the RSL being connected. Thinking the reserve would inflate.
    This was a "single sided" roof, meaning only half an A frame, low end was about 8' with the top at about 24' running at probably close to a 45 degree angle.
    Now I am almost certain that cuttingaway would have avoided the double compound to the fib tib coming out the bottom and side of the foot and ankle, leaving me in daily pain and thus a limp which is now causing other problems. Not to mention the two breaks in the wrist. This would have avoided me from being drug to the 24' side and then have the canopy pull me off. And of course by this time I had already yanked a toggle so it was flying straight down when it left the roof with me on my back. Would have the reserve have inflated, I always thought no, until you mentioned the 45 degree slope, but even in 24 mph I do not think it would have. And even it did I would have already slid down to the 8' drop where my brother was already there to break my fall. I probably would have walked away. (See scary stories thread for more details.)

    I have not read all the post here, so excuse me if I am repeating something already posted but:
    I have to agree with Bill that it is rare for a reserve to inflate especially when on your back, but I have always said, "if you can image it happening in skydiving, it probably can." As Spence said he witnessed, and as I, but that was with belly mounts and the ole Stephens systems back in the seventies, and it really only covered the jumper in silk. Maybe a couple of line burns on the neck and face but no dragging cause he was wrapped up in it.
    For me the bottom line is:
    Don't jump in high winds
    If you do get caught unexpectedly which does happen, as I got caught in 34 mph once, and of course you know it cause your backing up, disconnect the rsl and be prepared to handle the landing.
    Tip if not already mentioned:
    once feet are on the ground, immediately yank a toggle (even grab the line to get more input) to flip the nose to the ground as you turn and run toward the canopy! You will always (yes strong word) find your bridle (assuming it is a collapsible) right in front of you. As you run towards the canopy make sure you do it on the bridle, it will bow tie the canopy and collapse it! Then continue on until you have the canopy in control, jump on it, fall on it, but get it!
    Of course in high winds it does not require much of a flare either, don't put yourself on your back before you even touch ground.



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    What I need is an idea of what size tent you need. As posted in the Roamingdz.com forums yesterday 15x15 $150, 20x20 $275, the 40x60 I put up last year is $960 and a 40x80 is like $1200.

    Please let me know as soon as possible if The Farm is going to want a large tent as I will need to figure out the layout.



    I should be able to bring my two 10x10 popups and the old yellow PD tent down as well. Just need a sledge hammer and someone willing to swing it, cause I aint.;)


    Be careful where you put your popups...:D


    If Im lucky they will get blown away!


    We may want to consider putting bright orange flags on top of all tents and pop ups so that people can see them when coming in the land. ;):D


    Ok somebody help me out, where is the post on hotel info?? I cant find it, saw it a week ago or so and now I'm lost. Can someone send me a link? uggh! Thank you!


    Looks like that info was on the very first post. :D;)


    Figures a fellow Texan has to be the smart one!!:P I swear it was not there when i saw it the first time. Besides who reads the first page?
    Thanks!



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    What I need is an idea of what size tent you need. As posted in the Roamingdz.com forums yesterday 15x15 $150, 20x20 $275, the 40x60 I put up last year is $960 and a 40x80 is like $1200.

    Please let me know as soon as possible if The Farm is going to want a large tent as I will need to figure out the layout.



    I should be able to bring my two 10x10 popups and the old yellow PD tent down as well. Just need a sledge hammer and someone willing to swing it, cause I aint.;)


    Be careful where you put your popups...:D


    If Im lucky they will get blown away!


    We may want to consider putting bright orange flags on top of all tents and pop ups so that people can see them when coming in the land. ;):D


    Ok somebody help me out, where is the post on hotel info?? I cant find it, saw it a week ago or so and now I'm lost. Can someone send me a link? uggh! Thank you!



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    What I need is an idea of what size tent you need. As posted in the Roamingdz.com forums yesterday 15x15 $150, 20x20 $275, the 40x60 I put up last year is $960 and a 40x80 is like $1200.

    Please let me know as soon as possible if The Farm is going to want a large tent as I will need to figure out the layout.



    I should be able to bring my two 10x10 popups and the old yellow PD tent down as well. Just need a sledge hammer and someone willing to swing it, cause I aint.;)


    Be careful where you put your popups...:D


    If Im lucky they will get blown away!



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    What I need is an idea of what size tent you need. As posted in the Roamingdz.com forums yesterday 15x15 $150, 20x20 $275, the 40x60 I put up last year is $960 and a 40x80 is like $1200.

    Please let me know as soon as possible if The Farm is going to want a large tent as I will need to figure out the layout.



    I should be able to bring my two 10x10 popups and the old yellow PD tent down as well. Just need a sledge hammer and someone willing to swing it, cause I aint.;)



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    Thanks for all the input we decided were going to make a road trip down the East Coast from NYC to Florida and hit DZ's on the way down to Florida.

    I be cursing up a storm if we get grounded due to weather and the weather is awesome at Eloy, AZ. Anyway we'll eventually make it to AZ some time this year. Thanks to all that posted, Blue Skies!



    Florida will be fine, just drive to the sunshine, there will be a DZ there!!! ;)

    Have a safe trip!



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    Not sure about your car, but one use to be able to loosen the positive cable on the battery and start the car. Once started remove the positive cable, if it keeps running then this would indicate the alternator was good, and most likely the battery would be the problem. Not sure if that would be applicable with yours.

    good luck



    I wouldn't try this. Many modern cars need the battery hooked up to complete the circuit. Unhook the battery and the entire electrical system quits.

    As another thought -

    Squeak - Are the battery connections tight (and clean)? I had a loose battery cable (the clamp had cracked) that acted quite a bit like your description of the problem.



    Yeah, we did that with cars in the 80's and I know that it is not suggested with newer ones, was thinking up to early 90's was still ok. So thanks for the correction.

    And you may be correct with cleaning the cable ends. It sounds electrical to me at least with my outdated automotive education. LOL



  16. Not sure about your car, but one use to be able to loosen the positive cable on the battery and start the car. Once started remove the positive cable, if it keeps running then this would indicate the alternator was good, and most likely the battery would be the problem. Not sure if that would be applicable with yours.

    good luck



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    That would be perfect, just need one. :)What would it take to get one from ya?
    Ill be wearing it under a regular rig.
    Thanks



    Oh christ J.. just land em..ya big wussie.....I have jumped a bunch of my old stuff in the last 5 years...


    Thats 3 times in a week Ive been called something like that, :S might start believing it! LOL
    My ankle wont let me land rounds or triangles, those are for water or chops. Squares, Ill land.

    so ya coming to the Farm in June????:)



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    10200+550=10750
    6+1=7
    10750/7=1536

    10200+1150=11350
    6+0 (no cutaways)=6
    11350/6=1892



    11350+350=11700
    6+0=6
    11700/6= 1950


    Edited for the skipped person...

    11700+550=12250
    6+1=7
    12250/7= 1750


    13550 + 1521 = 15071
    10+0 (have 3 intentional but no real ones) = 10
    15071/10= 1507

    Edited: cause OZZY13 beat me to it, and lowered the average!!;)