Skydog0223

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, it's probably way to big as I've recently dropped a few pounds down to 160. Thanks anyway!

Does anybody have an old sit suit they want to get rid off? I'm 5' 7" tall, medium build (40" chest, 36" waist) Colors don't matter that much, preferably Navy Blue, Orange, White blend or close to that. I used to have 2, one with big wings & 1 with small wings. I added a picture below for comparison. Thanks,

The system was all new August 2013 "Know your own limits"

UPDATE: After just over a month I jumped my Wings again yesterday a couple of times. The original pilot chute/freebag assembly has been replaced with a revised one from Sunrise. Also the rigger installed a MARD. I've studied the original PC, it has a fairly low speed inflation speed, as to the pull force? The Mesh diameter measures 12" with the overall diameter being 24". On the new PC the mesh diameter has been increased according to my rigger but I don't know the exact difference, I'll check at the next repack. According to their website their reserve PC has 80% fabric, I calculated that the original on mine has about 94% Thanks to everybody who commented on this thread and thanks to my rigger! Blue Skies "Know your own limits"

Agreed, the reserve PC should be man enough! We don't always use RSL's depending on the activity. "Know your own limits"

You don't always pull on your belly....I used to Skysurf 338 in total, you dump stood up! It was packed by a packer! "Know your own limits"

Your comments are spot on! Old adages are around for good reasons! "Know your own limits"

So just to clarify something you overlooked, a first jump course does not cover the myriad of possibilities that can happen. So what happens if you are incapacitated in some way, you are on your back because you CAN'T get to your belly and you cannot pull? But fortunately you have an AAD to activate your reserve, still no guarantee. Also an RSL or a MARD in this case is not of any use. For me this was the first time I pulled on my back in 3149 jumps, the situation was such that I didn't want to waste any time getting my reserve out. In a previous similar situation years back I got stable after chopping a Stilletto 120 and had an uneventful opening on a Javelin container with a PD126 reserve. I am a proponent of this camp hence no RSL no MARD, but in recent months after reading about various situations also advice from a prominent AFF instructor who advises students not to waste time getting stable I decided on this occasion to do the same. The irony is I'm glad it happened to show me the problem with the Wings container. Maybe other containers have the same issue, I don't know. "Know your own limits"

There is definitely a lot to consider in the design process. The bottom line for me is I've lost confidence in this equipment. The point I want to make is when I had my PC in tow on my Wings reserve the PC was fully inflated with the bridle fully extended, the distance from where the bridle attaches to the bag and the side of the container is at most 6" I would've expected the snatch force to be enough to extract the bag. I did a simulation in terms of time, when I flipped to my belly if the PC had not extracted the bag the time required to go back on my side get hold of the bridle and physically pull the bag out would probably have put me at less than 1000' 5 seconds from the ground approx. "Know your own limits"

Like jumpsuits maybe containers would be better custom made per canopy size, the equipment is specialized anyhow, just my thoughts. "Know your own limits"

It is a W8 [They are a bit cagey about size but general a sabre 135-150 and a pd reserve 126 - 143 are general sizes for a w8] "Know your own limits"

I understand about the PIA position. Thanks for your comments. To conclude for myself: I always pulled face to earth in all situations, after reading posts about wasting valuable seconds doing that I decided not to this time, ironically in the end I had too and probably took longer. As far as the equipment goes with my riggers advice we are making changes. This has been a valuable lesson, and after 34 years in the sport I've seen, read and heard a lot of things, but there will be more. I have a 2nd rig which is 20 years old, for me it's the best I ever had, I only got my wings because I was the recipient of a 50% off a new Wings voucher in a raffle. Next time I'll buy what I really want! My daughter laughed when I said I jumped straight after my reserve ride on my old gear, I said it's not skydiving to blame it's the gear! Dave Blue Skies "Know your own limits"

The main malfunction is not the topic here, in any case I had break fire coupled with a twist, I always arch and pitch cleanly. Thanks "Know your own limits"

Everything I stated is factual, the container is with my rigger, I'll find out. "Know your own limits"

I've given this "INCIDENT" a lot of thought and worked through the various scenario's that can happen. Having been involved in Aircraft Testing as part of my job it is clear that parts of the reserve deployment system are inadequate. I concluded that the reserve should be able to deploy at any speed in any attitude unassisted. There is a scenario which would require this, if we have an aircraft emergency exiting at 1000' and a jumper hits their heading on the door frame exiting and rendered dazed or unconscious then there are 2 (or more) scenario's, let's assume AAD/or no AAD: AAD: The AAD would probably not activate until 500 feet due to low exit altitude/time in freefall, the jumper is back to earth AAD fires, ends up with PC in tow, does not reach a sufficient speed in time to achieve required extraction force. No AAD: Jumper is back to earth, no AAD, regains awareness, pulls reserve, PC in tow, does not make it. You might say "oh it's possible but unlikely" well these are the types of scenario that get skydivers killed simply because not enough thought and testing or sufficient repeat testing goes into making some skydiving equipment. It's no good looking all nice and stylish if it's dysfunctional. The bottom line is my equipment failed me, what should I do now? "Know your own limits"