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He should have shot more rounds to begin with, killing him the first time, then he'd be in the right. But since the robber no longer posed a threat he was clearly wrong. -
QuoteQuote>and the fact that each state can put their own laws in place that supersede the federal
> guidelines makes it a big giant mess.
Hmm. Do you think that giving the federal government more power over these cases would help overall?
No. I think having the states not violate one's rights would help. That states should be do as they wish within reason and as long as whatever course they take does not vilolate a person's rights without due process.QuoteDefinitely. I think even the more vitriolic posters would agree with the basic concept here if this wasn't Speaker's Corner, where the only good argument is a loud one.
I agree. Both sides have pretty much they said the mentally ill should and should not have guns depending on the outcome of evaluation. -
QuoteThat's nice to hear an American confessing he has no gun, as he does not need one
As far as personal firearms, I have not needed a gun either, and likely will not need one. But in the event that I do need one for self defense, food, etc.. I'll be able to own/have one, which I already do.QuoteMuch nicer is: I have one, no: several, which I need, mainly for hunting reasons.
I prefer a bow
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QuoteIt's GOOD Brit Sci Fi , something the Yank can not do.
Aside from the Stargates
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Quote>My point is that not everyone with a mental illness who has dillusions is a threat, in
>fact, that vast majority are not.
Agreed. Only those who cannot tell right from wrong, or are at risk for violence, should be considered a threat.
I agree, as long that is determined by a psychiatrist and not just a judge or concerned family members. Of course, family members can assist the psychiatrist and give them a better behind-the-scenes view. -
QuoteIf a person is not mentally able to tell the difference between reality and fantasy, that's an extremely good reason not to let them have access to guns.
No, it is not. Someone in my family was diagnosed as being schizophrenic. He would have audible and visual dillusions; hearing his wife having sex in voice mails, seeing her on T.V. and in magazines, and even thought she was getting kickbacks from Obama (not sure for what, he never would say). Anyways, it got to the point to where he would search the house for cameras and mics, had a room full of clippings and articles that he thought involved her and had a map of all the places she had visited for sex parties.
He went through many computers a year because he thought they were hacked, the magistrates knew him by name because he'd drop by weekly to show them new "evidence" against his, now ex, wife.
When it came to his wife, reailty was blurred, but he was never deemed to be violent, never threatened anyone, and this whole time kept his gun collection with no problems. He still thinks his ex-wife was a nympho that received kickbacks from Obama and believes all of his past dillusions were real, but since he's been medicated he no longer acts on them (clippings, searching for mics, etc...) or has any new dillusions that I'm aware of.
My point is that not everyone with a mental illness who has dillusions is a threat, in fact, that vast majority are not.
So why take away their firearms?
Now, as lawrocket said, if someone has a history of violence that is deemed serious enough or has demonstrated the intent to harm themself or others, then yes, their right to possess guns should be taken away.
Edit: I'm all for reinstating their right after whatever reasons for initially taking them away has been mitigated. -
From the OP's source:QuoteWhile visual evidence, through government surveillance cameras and individuals' phones, can help make prosecutions, police unions and likeminded groups argue that police officers might second-guess themselves if they know they are being recorded and delay making necessary decisions.
Assuming I was a cop, I don't see how my ability to be decisive in a similar situation could be changed by finding out after the event that I was videotoped. -
QuoteQuotethe fact is many people believe everything they see on TV.
That's true; I saw it on a documentary once.
You've been on a role lately...
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Did anyone consider the tone and setting of the two videos?
The Bush vid was filmed in Iraq where the President was a bit more "down to earth". The troops were allowed to shout and make noise.
The Obama vid was filmed at Camp Lejeune -- In the states. CNN was there, it was more of a formal meeting. The Marines were told to STFU at the POA, they couldn't have cheered even if they wanted to.
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Yeah, but you will be licking the wrong side!
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What does a 9-volt battery and an asshole have in common?
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You know you shouldn't put your tongue on it, but you'll give it a try at least once. -
QuotePersonally, if someone had something on me, I'd take my lumps but expose them for what they were doing. If I'm going down, I'm taking them with me.
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Quotenext time I see a marine mom bumper sticker with the EGA on it, I'll tell her you said she has to take it off her car. Because she didn't "earn it".
Well, a marine mom bumper sticker with the EGA on it is obvioulsy showing her pride in her son or daughter. Sort of like the Marine wife bumper stickers.
I don't think I would look down of Private Joe's girlfriend for wearing an EGA on her letter jacket.
Common sense applies. Yeah, there's some exceptions, but it still takes a douche to wear unearned military awards/badges. -
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Like I said, a smaller replica would be acceptable IMO.
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So you're cool with people who have never been in combat wearing small replica combat action ribbon pins on thier business suits?
Is a small Eagle-Globe-and-Anchor lapel pin cool for persons who where never Marines?
Maybe Marine jump wings and scuba bubbles as a bumper sticker would look cool? People would think they're Recon
I'm not debating the legality of wearing this shit; I'm just saying it takes a douche to wear unearned military awards and badges (pins, bumper stickers, etc...).
Lapel pins, replicas, bumper stickers, the real deal; they shouldn't be worn if not earned. -
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If it was given to him, why not? It's not like he's putting it on a uniform and trying to pass himself off as a SEAL.
Negatitory. He may have the "right" to wear it, but he don't have the right to wear it. Catch my drift?
Legality aside, there are some things you just don't do. Wearing military decorations and awards that you have not earned is one of those things you just don't do, period.
I have a Pararescue badge that a buddy gave me a few years ago. Sure, I can legally wear it, but it's just one of those things you don't do.
I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, but if I knew of someone wearing an EGA lapel pin that was not ever a Marine, they would definately lose credibility with me.
Yeah, before someone throws out the wild "what ifs"; there are some exceptions (i.e. wives).
It is one thing to wear a t-shirt with a logo, it is another to wear a pin on your suit. -
QuoteYou do realize he wasn't convicted of a crime; right?
For my own edification....he was found guilty of violating house rules, but wouldn't breaking these same rules also be "crimes"?
Either way he should not have been applauded.
Public = breaking laws, penalty, no applause
Congress = breaking rules, slap on the wrist, applauded
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That picture is priceless
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Port side shower up, starboard side shine 'em up has a whole new meaning
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QuoteYeah, he was a wanker.
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QuoteI thought it was a hell of a game. Both played their hearts out at some point, and both teams sucked at other points. I'm an AU fan but was convinced AL would be the toughest test until a potential Nat Champ game. Guess I was right. Good job Bama. Beers at my house for the SEC championship!
Yeah, that really is a lot of awesomeness for one state. I mean, we're riding on back to back SEC and NAT championships for the State.
But yeah, I bet the NCAA is going to have AU under a microscope. Hopefully they'll disinfect everything ASAP
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QuoteTypical bad sport Alabama fan. You will not hear it near as bad as Auburn fans when Alabama wins so SIUCC.
Your'e right. We're just not used to it as much. Have any tips? -
I haven't hunted in a few years and started back this year hunting Quantico Marine Base, VA. I've seen a few mount-worthy bucks, but they've all been out of bow range. This is my first season with archery so I'm still learning the ropes. On the plus side, does don't count against one's bag limit if hunted in archery only areas (main side, residential, etc...). Yeah, the freezer's full, but still would be nice to bag a buck before the season ends. -
QuoteSo, I ask, because I do not think the "Which one is true" question has been answered yet.
Matt
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QuoteDoes Afghanistan count as work?
Depends. What branch?
Shoot/kill would-be robber, get life sentence.
in Speakers Corner
I also think first degree murder was a bit harsh considering we don't know what his intentions were.
Good
If not already, hopefully he'll clean up his act before he ends up dead like the first one. Good riddance, imo.
People really should read up on self defense laws within their states. I hear so many comments (in other forums too) along the lines of "you can only shoot till they pose no threat", "one bullet should stop them...", "shoot them in the leg", etc... that logic is absolute hogwash.
You shoot till they're dead and you do it the first time you shoot. In a way, its all about instances. If you leave then come back and the person no longer poses a threat, you can't shoot. However, if it takes emptying the gun in the first instance to kill the robber, your'e in the right.