I always wondered why American beer is so much weaker than European beer. I lived in Germany for several years and grew accustomed to the heavier, and might I add tastier, beers. I'm not sure I could take too many beers at an alcohol level of 24%; that must knock you on your butt. A friend and I used to go the Schneider Keller in Munich for breakfast and eat Weiss Wurst and drink Aventinus Weizen beer, which is 12%. That's the local tradition and they stop serving at 11:00 a.m. A few of those on a relative empty stomach and we would be rolling home. Hey, it just occurred to me that this is my first post on this site; do I owe everyone a beer? How appropriate. -------------------------------------------------------- It's what people know about themselves inside that makes the afraid -- The High Plains Drifter