Iago

On 4/12/2018 at 8:46 AM, jcd11235 said:

 

What a fantasy world that would be!

 

 

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The best thing that could happen for the left would be to have a strong economy and the middle-class living well.  That would result in an pretty decent chance of Trump getting a second term, or if he chooses not to run someone else from the Republican side.

Never heard of her.

But then again, I get emails almost every week in every company I've ever worked for that some muckedy-muck I've never heard of is leaving or now reporting to some other muckedy-muck (that I've never heard of either.)

(Shrug) never seems to change anything.

Heh, the secondary market got flooded after the House of Saud had to sell off their private fleet..

If you like your low paying job and your housing project, you can KEEP your low paying job and your housing project!

31 minutes ago, gowlerk said:

Not one of the people who voted for her would benefit from Amazon taking over their neighbourhood.

Hey, If Amazon is still wanting to be in NY for some reason they can go a few hundred miles WNW and plunk it down in the Finger Lakes or Oswego or Rochester.  I wouldn’t go to Buffalo because the Winter there can really suck.

All four seasons, fishing, boating, two ski mountains about an hour away.  

1 minute ago, billvon said:

Yep.  And if that were the point, there would have been just a big Amazon logo on the poster.

Note that I am not saying you sat down and thought this up; I suspect you saw a right wing meme, said "FUCK YEAH!"  and just reposted it without too much thought.  It happens.

Also note that the authors of the meme did not attack Brad Tusk, Bloomberg's campaign manager.  He said that “this is a case of significant political malpractice, more than anything else.  Amazon did not understand the local politics on the ground at all. . .  they didn't do their homework."  He blamed Amazon for the problem.  But he's a white middle age guy; how is he going to generate any fear?

Likewise, De Blasio taunted Amazon, saying they "threw away their opportunity."  But his mug on a poster won't get the sort of fear that the GOP wants.

So the face on the poster was AOC.  De Blasio won't get the far right wing out to vote; a picture of a young Latina woman will.

Oh, no no no no.  This is the boroughs of NYC.  “Right-Wingers” need not apply.  And there was no “meme” required because there is plenty of footage of Occassional-Cortex herself on camera saying that it’s really great Amazon isn’t coming to NY.  And the face on that poster in the 14th District is her’s because, real shock here Bill, IT’S HER DISTRICT!

 Crowley, the former rep of the 14th district of NY, was also a Democrat.  The ‘historical event’ of AOC winning the primary and getting the D next to her name only happened because 85% of the 230k Democrats in that district didn’t bother to even show up for the primary as opposed to the 30k that did.  But hey, the 100k plus that actually voted in November did a great job of going “D D D, oh here it is the big D.  Punch that one.”

I do not believe that mistake will be repeated in 2020.  And before you ask, I was born and raised in Western Upstate NY, so I have a particular sensitivity to the rest of the inhabitants of that fine place that have to live under the crushing boot heel of NYC and people like AOC.

3 minutes ago, billvon said:

And yet you posted a thing about how no one would vote for her once they saw her picture.

Bigun claimed that her policies were being attacked, not her.  Thank you for providing another piece of evidence to disprove that.

Oh, I’m sorry, you apparently missed the part with the caption that says “Amazon HQ2- any questions?” As in “Any questions why you should NOT vote for this person to represent your interests?”

She is celebrating Amazon not moving into/next door to her district (depending on where the actual lines are being drawn.). The 14th district has a median/average per capital income a hair under $50k.  Amazon comes into the area and boosts that even 15-20% to 60ish and that would be huge.  Instead she’s mugging the camera about how this NOT happening is a good thing.

Being a woman and a minority has nothing to do with it.

Perpetrating a hoax against yourself or your specific group to get attention and support from the general public is never a good idea.  When it is, and ultimately will be, discovered to be a hoax the backlash will be severe.

Dateline NYC 2020:  in a stunning turn of events, Alexandria Occassional-Cortex, the youngest person ever elected to Congress, was solidly defeated in the primary by her 2018 opponent and long-term former Representative Crowley.

Apparently, the roughly the 200k registered Democrats in the 14th district that forgot there was an election in 2018 decided to show up.  John Smith, a long term resident of the Bronx, voted for Ms. Cotez in the 2018 general election.  He had this to say about the turn of events:

”Yeah, we sure got burned on that one.  I was so used to just showing up in November and punching whoever had the big D by their name I usually didn’t even think about it.   This time I’m actually reading the names.”

Crowley, who is expected to regain his seat in Washington, ran one of the simplest campaigns in History and didn’t even show up to a public debate.  Instead, his place at the podium was occupied by a big easel with a picture of the Incumbent in the Capitol Building hallway and the caption “Amazon HQ2- any questions?”  The same image was run on local TV in 15 second spots followed by a Crowley 2020 banner.

Cuomo was also disappointed, but he took out his anger on the legislators who worked to torpedo the deal.

“[A] small group [of] politicians put their own narrow political interests above their community — which poll after poll showed overwhelmingly supported bringing Amazon to Long Island City — the state's economic future and the best interests of the people of this state. The New York state Senate has done tremendous damage. They should be held accountable for this lost economic opportunity.”

37 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Pay to play for what? Isn't unemployment at historic lows?

Wouldn't this drive up housing costs? Transportation costs?

Why do you think that all 25,000 would make $150,000? According to glassdoor VPs at Amazon make between $160,000 to $200,000. So my guess is the average salary will be much closer to $80,000.

lastly, your calculation would imply 25,000 net new employment. That assumption is just......bizarre.

(Shrug) those were the estimates from Amazon’s agreement with the legislature.  Estimate net jobs over ten years and average estimated salary.  Like I said- fudge them anyway you like, cut one in half or both by a quarter, and the ROI is still pretty attractive.  

23 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

Amazon was never putting that HQ in Queens. This was all games to get data and incentives to put it where they REALLY want it.

When they announced that location I said 'one of the most expensive places to live in the country that is doing fine.  Put it in WVA or Kentucky or someplace else that could use the jobs' (or something like that.). So, we shall see what the actually do.

Nashville is a good choice, though, and I imagine Cookeville is going to get a nice boost.

6 minutes ago, SkyDekker said:

Yeah, a politician objecting to giving $1,000,000,000 to one of the wealthiest corporations around is indeed shocking. I can see why you would want to make fun of that.

You gotta pay to play.  25k x $150k x 6% is $225mil/year.  Call it a capital investment with a ROI.

25% per annum over the longer term is pretty good.  Fudge it up it down any way you like and it's still attractive.

Amazon pull HQ2 out of Queens.  25k jobs gone.  Occassional-Cortex rejoices.

 Rep. Rashida Tlaib promotes Eminent Domain to seize GM manufacturing facilities (which is private property) for Green New Deal.

Interesting times indeed.

(How do I change fonts on this dang thing)

4 minutes ago, kallend said:

OK, to which Americans would YOU deny  high-quality health care;  affordable, safe, and adequate housing;  economic security,  access to clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food,  training, and high-quality education?

Please be specific.

OK, to which Americans would YOU GUARANTEE  high-quality health care;  affordable, safe, and adequate housing;  economic security,  access to clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food,  training, and high-quality education?

Please be specific.

11 minutes ago, kallend said:

Sure, her ideas (from the ACTUAL resolution):

“Providing all people of the United States with — (i) high-quality health care; (ii) affordable, safe, and adequate housing; (iii) economic security; and (iv) access to clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food, and nature.” 

“Providing resources, training, and high-quality education, including higher education, to all people of the United States.” 

You think this is "out of whack".

Clearly your (and the Republican) position is to DENY some Americans high-quality health care;  affordable, safe, and adequate housing;  economic security,  access to clean water, clean air, healthy and affordable food,  training, and high-quality education.

Free stuff!  Free stuff!  I shouldn’t have had to take twenty hours of core engineering and work twenty five hours a week in the dining hall to pay my rent and buy my pasta and Campbell’s Pork N Beans!  How was I so wrong?!  All that should have been free!  Forget all those late-night hours studying to keep that partial academic scholarship.  All that crap should’ve been FREE so I could spend my time going out screwing sorority girls.

4 minutes ago, DJL said:

It is pretty amazing that they've thrust her every action and agenda into the spotlight.  She probably thanks them for this because otherwise she's just be another freshman congresswoman with no clout.

She took a page from the Trump Campaign Handbook.  Get your mug into the media any way you can.  

28 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

Ocasio-Cortez doesn't scare me. She's literally a dumb ass whose ideas are so far out of whack all I can do is laugh at them.

Oh, and Ilhan Omar... Sometimes I wonder if she really thinks her comments through before spouting them. She decried the TSA agents not getting paid during the shutdown, but then advocates defunding Department of Homeland Security, which of course, TSA, the Secret Service, ICE and a whole bunch of other departments are a part of.

Sounds to me like she wants full access to the border for all immigrants, including those with bad intentions.

Billy, man, don’t mess with my free stuff.  Tell ya what, we all get “free education and guaranteed housing and guaranteed economic security” and we can all

GO BACK TO SCHOOL!

It’ll be absolutely EPIC!  We’ll have the best frat house on campus!  Hot tubs,  vibrating beds, hot and cold running empty-headed sorority chicks, the sky is the limit!  And Occasional-Cortex is gonna get us that FOR FREE!

29 minutes ago, BillyVance said:

Honestly, I haven't watched a single Hollywood or Music award show in a long time. Most of the time, they're a liberal shit show.

Hey Billy- did you see this nonsense about people questioning Kamala Harris’ “blackness?”

Haaaaahahahahahah!  They’re starting to eat their own.  It’s gonna be a fun two years.

My former roommates father worked for Southern Co and pioneered that company getting the EV-1 on employee lease-back to satisfy the fleet requirements.  Fantastic car.  If GM went ahead with the EV-2 series hybrid they could have owned that segment of the market before Elon even created PayPal.

Tesla will be either bankrupt or absorbed by another company by 2021 without another massive infusion of capital or rollling it into Space-X.  Put options are still pretty cheap for Jan 2021, you should consider buying some.

I plan on making money on the concrete, iron, coal, coppper, and other metals/rare earths that are required to create those monstrosities to the sky called 2 MW wind turbines.    The same ones I just spent five days looking at in Iowa two hours from the nearest city (Sioux Falls) that could actually use the power.  Not that it mattered because only about one out of four was actually spinning.

45 minutes ago, Phil1111 said:

Poll: Majorities of both parties support Green New Deal

"More than 80 percent of registered voters support the Green New Deal proposal being pushed by progressional Democratic lawmakers, a new poll found.

The survey conducted by the Yale Program on Climate Communication and the George Mason University Center for Climate Change Communication found that 92 percent of Democrats and 64 percent of Republicans back the Green New Deal plan."

The Left Thinks a 'Green New Deal' Could Save Earth and Destroy the GOP

" About 52 percent of respondents supported the policy, while 29 percent opposed. “This is one of the most popular issues we’ve ever polled,” David Shor, a senior data scientist at Civis Analytics said at the time. Later this year, Data for Progress did its own polling and found a green jobs guarantee increased the intensity of enthusiastic 2018 voters: 55 percent said they’re more likely to vote for a candidate who runs on it. "

 

Like I said, buy coal and mining stocks.  You’ll do pretty good in the midterm time frame.  Green Power is not really green.

18 minutes ago, billvon said:

Let's look right here on Speaker's Corner.

In this thread, a conservative started the thread with consideration of her proposal.  Great!  That was a thoughtful commentary.   I disagree with some of her proposal as well.

It was followed by:

Iago mocking her several times with comments like "AOC is the best thing to ever happen to this country" because she gives "free shit" to all her supporters who are “unwilling to work.” 

Your reply where you state "she is a threat."  Not her proposals.  Her.

Then in a separate thread on her, we see Iago commenting on her start in Congress the same way he would talk to a dog.  Then later characterizing her comments as "Stomps feet and holds breath."

That's why the left tells everyone that the right is attacking her rather than her policies.  Because they are; you yourself have done it.

If the right does not want to be characterized that way, perhaps they should stop doing it.

Well, she does want to give free stuff to everyone.  That was the basic plank of her campaign before she even won the election.  Free housing for all, free transportation for all, free healthcare for all, free education for all.  As long as “free stuff” is on the menu I want my free stuff, too.  

Guaranteed economic security for those unable or unwilling to work.

Someone else can go out and do the actual work, just give me my economic security.

(It was pretty cold up in Iowa.  I’d rather take my free stuff.)

6 hours ago, billvon said:

Exactly.  And liberals hate work, freedom and progress.  (Remember when you could tell liberals "why don't you just move to Russia if you love that sort of thing so much?"  Damn Trump for destroying that meme!)

I would love to be able to tell liberals to just move to CCCP if they love that sort of thing so much, but the Great Communist Experiment failed about 30 years ago.

10 hours ago, kallend said:

Why are the right wingers so preoccupied with O-C?  Is she really such a threat to them?

 

I recall (yes, I'm old) that under Eisenhower the top tax rate was around 90%, yet there was good economic growth and much less whining from the wealthy.

Well, yes John but nobody actually paid that.  The 90% tax rate was as an attempt by the Fed to get a few of these Industrialist families that made buckets off the war to pay some taxes.